The death industry for the disabled, mentally ill, and poor is ramping up in Canada

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, TreeBeard said:

Your view on this is completely incoherent.  But that’s on purpose, isn’t it?  You know it’s inconsistent and can’t answer a relatively simple question in a straightforward way.  

I don't want YOU anywhere near anybody affected.

[Goddess]

13 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

@Goddess is the only one I know to assist someone in dying….   You’re saying she shouldn’t?

Just to be clear, I don't do the medical assisting.

Just the preparing mentally and emotionally to release lingering life resentments and guilt, assistance in settling financial affairs and helping prepare necessary documents.  I also work FOR the patient, not the family, even if it's them paying for my services.  So I speak privately with the patient about their last wishes and advocate for those with the family, if necessary.  I am present at the death, if wanted, but I haven't had anyone not want me there.  I also attend the vigil when death is close, if they are going naturally, not using MAID.  I provide information to reassure the family of what noises or colours or other physical issues happen immediately before death.  Some panic when mottling occurs or the infamous "death rattle."  being there to assure everyone these things are normal and expected signs that death is imminent.

I remind them that hearing is the last sense to go and actually lingers for a time after clinical death, so I encourage them to talk to the person and reassure that they can hear them, even if there is no response.

Edited August 17, 2022 by Goddess

[Goddess]

9 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

The Nazis were busy convincing themselves they were being humane when they did it to the mentally ill.

Yes, that's what we would want to avoid.

The Canadian public was convinced through massive amounts of propaganda and fearporn that segregating unvaccinated people from society and firing them from jobs was "for the greater good" and humane.

So I'm not sure who should be making the regulations.  Is my point.

[Dougie93]

the employees of the Government of Canada

want to euthanize your veterans

at what point do these vile persons face Roman Banishment ?

if you own a business, refuse to serve a Government of Canada employee

if they ask you for any assistance, just ignore them

even they even try to speak to you, just walk away

these people are your mortal enemies

stop treating them as members of our community

Edited August 17, 2022 by Dougie93

[DogOnPorch]

4 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Yes, that's what we would want to avoid.

The Canadian public was convinced through massive amounts of propaganda and fearporn that segregating unvaccinated people from society and firing them from jobs was "for the greater good" and humane.

So I'm not sure who should be making the regulations.  Is my point.

 

The new Jew...the unvaccinated.

[blackbird]

This article explains the reasons why Christians (Bible believers) oppose medical assistance in dying.

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What is the sanctity of life? Why do Christians believe in the sanctity of life?

Sanctity means the quality of being holy, sacred, or set apart. Believing in the sanctity of life means believing that human life is somehow holy, set apart, or different from other life forms. The question is "Why do Christians believe that human life is set apart?"

First, Christians believe human life is sacred because humankind is the only life form to have been created in God's image, after His likeness, and God is holy (Genesis 1:27). We are also told that God literally breathed life into man, something He did not do with other life forms (Genesis 2:7). Something in the way God created humans reflects His attributes. In other words, we bear God's image. So anything that harms or mars a human life also therefore mars that reflection of God Himself. Therefore Christians approach human life with a sense of reverence for the Creator who is reflected in that life.

Another reason Christians have reverence for human life is because we believe all human life is owned by God. In Exodus 19:5 God declares that "all earth is mine" and by extension, every human life on the earth belongs to Him as well. First Corinthians 6:19–20 goes so far as to say, of believers, "…You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body." Deuteronomy 32:39 teaches that God not only owns each life, but that He is responsible for the life and death of each person as well. It says, "'See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god beside me; I kill and I make alive; I wound and I heal; and there is none that can deliver out of my hand." Psalm 139:16 shows that the days of each person's life were written in God's book before any of them came to be. Christians believe that human lives belong to God and only He is in charge of the giving and taking of that life.   unquote

For the whole article:

What is the sanctity of life? Why do Christians believe in the sanctity of life? (compellingtruth.org)

While it is understandable to a degree why some would think people suffering in pain would choose MAID, we still can't agree because God is our Creator, guide, and has given us life and, for the above reasons stated in the article, is the only one who may end it.  Many have been seduced by the humanist reasons of the MAID lobby and their fallacious argument that it is "death with dignity".  Trust in God and be not deceived by the things of this world, which are only transitory. 

 

 

[DogOnPorch]

4 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

the employees of the Government of Canada

want to euthanize your veterans

at what point do these vile persons face Roman Banishment ?

if you own a business, refuse to serve a Government of Canada employee

if they ask you for any assistance, just ignore them

these people are your mortal enemies

stop treating them as members of our community

 

The Gestapo were a rather small organization. Only about 30,000 actual employees. Most of those were typists. The wheels of the bureaucracy grind fine.

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said:

The Gestapo were a rather small organization. Only about 30,000 actual employees. Most of those were typists. The wheels of the bureaucracy grind fine.

a Canadian veteran appealing to the Government of Canada now, is like a Rabbi appealing to Himmler 

and so this veteran learned the truth of it

when he was invited by the Government of Canada to board the train to Auschwitz voluntarily

[TreeBeard]

12 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

the employees of the Government of Canada

want to euthanize your veterans

Should veterans be allowed to choose how they die at the end of their life?

[DogOnPorch]

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

a Canadian veteran appealing to the Government of Canada now, is like a Rabbi appealing to Himmler 

and so this veteran learned the truth of it

when he was invited by the Government of Canada to board the train to Auschwitz voluntarily

 

I saw the Canadian government beat Canadian veterans at their own war memorial. That was enough to convince me the worm needs to turn.

[Dougie93]

6 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

I saw the Canadian government beat Canadian veterans at their own war memorial.

We are the Pilgrims, master; we shall go
Always a little further; it may be
Beyond that last blue mountain barred with snow
Across that angry or that glimmering sea,

~ James Elroy Flecker

qui ose gagne

 

[blackbird]

16 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

a Canadian veteran appealing to the Government of Canada now, is like a Rabbi appealing to Himmler 

 When you read what is going on with the Parliamentary MAID committee, which is dominated by liberals and progressives, you will understand how futile and hopeless a submission would be.

[blackbird]

31 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Should veterans be allowed to choose how they die at the end of their life?

Only God can give life and take life away.  Man playing God is a sure road to hell.  Believe me hell is a real place and judging by the way things are in the world, it will be a crowded place.

Did you ever hear the saying "the road to hell is paved with good intentions?"   Well there is a lot of truth in that saying.

Edited August 17, 2022 by blackbird

[Dougie93]

9 minutes ago, blackbird said:

 When you read what is going on with the Parliamentary MAID committee, which is dominated by liberals and progressives, you will understand how futile and hopeless a submission would be.

when I joined the Canadian Army many years ago, in the 1980's

nobody told me any fairy tales

I was told in no uncertain terms by my instructors

that we were all expendable downrange

and nobody could care less about us than unmartial Canadians

you could only rely on the brothers to left & right of you

Edited August 17, 2022 by Dougie93

[Dougie93]

13 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Only God can give life and take life away. 

but when He comes in His human form, as Jesus of Nazareth,  like a stranger in the night

a great weight is lifted from your shoulders

you didn't notice it, until it was lifted

but then you just feel so good

then you do good

then good things happen

miraculous things

then you understand how His miraculous healing works

[Zeitgeist]

3 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

This is nonsense.  Blatant lie about what MAID allows. 

You’re wrong.  These are documented cases.  

 

2 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

let that be a harsh lesson

every single person who works for the Government of Canada now, is a Communist traitor

fit for the yardarm

the Government of Canada is literally evil

the people who work for the government are all infected by it

they hate veterans, they view all veterans as a threat, so of course they want to kill them

all I say to the brothers is,  stop looking to these people for help

these Bolshevik lunatics are the mortal enemies of our soldiers, and always have been

do not look to these cowards, sycophants, cronies & traitors in government for assistance

it's a trap

for they serve the Prince of Darkness himself

I don’t know how our country got so lost.  The Canadian government lost the plot in 2022.  

[Zeitgeist]

What the hell is going on in this country?   
 

“After a Quebec Superior Court ruling struck down the “reasonably foreseeable” provision as unconstitutional, the government of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau responded by greenlighting a series of reforms that has effectively given Canada the most permissive euthanasia laws in the world. Starting in March, euthanasia will even become available to patients whose only underlying condition is a mental illness. Euthanasia is rapidly becoming one of Canada’s leading causes of death. In 2021, Canada saw 10,064 cases of euthanasia, representing 3.3 per cent of all national deaths. What’s more, that figure represented a 32.4 per cent increase in assisted deaths as compared to the previous year.”

Full article: https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/another-case-of-a-sick-canadian-offered-death-instead-of-treatment-this-time-a-veteran/wcm/51a88df8-fbb6-453a-a6ed-eef492a1c48a/amp/https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/another-case-of-a-sick-canadian-offered-death-instead-of-treatment-this-time-a-veteran/wcm/51a88df8-fbb6-453a-a6ed-eef492a1c48a/amp/

[Dougie93]

10 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

I don’t know how our country got so lost.  The Canadian government lost the plot in 2022.  

this is what a Communist takeover looks like

the government follows both the Marxist cult of the personalty

and the Leninist revolutionary vanguard

these are the Bolsheviks that overthrew the Romanov's, come for the Windsor's now

then there is a smaller fascist element, the 1% exploiting, this Marxist-Leninist quiet revolution

an unholy alliance;  Molotov - Ribbentrop Pact

it's not limited to Canada of course

this is happening at the same time in England, Scotland, Australia & New Zealand as well

this is not new, this is a hundred years old confrontation, repackaged for the information age

the Bolsheviks are nemesis of the monarchy

particularly the British Crown

so of course trey are keen to liquidate loyalist soldiers of the Crown by any means

we are in the fight of our lives, against the forces of darkness

not a metaphor

God save the Queen,  in the literal sense

 it is Marshal McLuhan's Information World War Three

and we are standing on the trace in the face of the enemies of the Crown once again

steady in the ranks there, hold the line

Edited August 18, 2022 by Dougie93

[blackbird]

Reportedly Vancouver Island has the highest percentage of doctor-assisted deaths per capita in the country.  This is a tragic thing for the island to be known for.  Likely because of the higher number of seniors or retirees who moved to the island to retire.  They think they are choosing the easy way out.  Badly and sadly deceived.  We are not an island unto ourselves.  We are all accountable to our Creator who made us in his image and for his glory.  As a book says, we are not here by nothing or for nothing.  Humans are not to be treated as animals.

[TreeBeard]

23 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Reportedly Vancouver Island has the highest percentage of doctor-assisted deaths per capita in the country.  This is a tragic thing for the island to be known for.  Likely because of the higher number of seniors or retirees who moved to the island to retire.  They think they are choosing the easy way out.  Badly and sadly deceived.  We are not an island unto ourselves.  We are all accountable to our Creator who made us in his image and for his glory.  As a book says, we are not here by nothing or for nothing.  Humans are not to be treated as animals.

I’m proud of that region’s elderly population for being brave and dying with dignity and going out on their own terms, ignoring the fake morality of the bible thumpers.  
 

You can choose to suffer all you want.  You don’t get to choose for others.  

Edited August 18, 2022 by TreeBeard

[Zeitgeist]

Canada has the most lenient euthanasia in the world.  We’re becoming known for some very dark things.  Doesn’t reflect well on our healthcare or government.  

[Army Guy]

On 8/17/2022 at 8:05 PM, TreeBeard said:

Should veterans be allowed to choose how they die at the end of their life?

They should, But thats not what the point here is, someone with serious mental health conditions do you think they are of sound mind to make those decisions. and if not should someone else be able to make that chioce for them so they can save some money... PTSD is a painful experience, suicide is very common, but in most cases it can be over come.

but PTSD is not the end of their life. It is treatable, in fact many have done just that, it just does not happen over night and requires a lot of resources and time. At one hand your saying their is a strict set of policies out there to keep mistakes form happening. And yet the media has provided several examples that did not follow any of the guide lines, like the guy that listed hearing loss, as a reason, and got permission in 4 days...

[TreeBeard]

1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

do you think they are of sound mind to make those decisions

I don’t know.  That’s why they are assessed on a case by case basis. 
 

1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

and if not should someone else be able to make that chioce for them so they can save some money...

That’s not an option for MAID.  Don’t make stuff up.  
 

1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

And yet the media has provided several examples that did not follow any of the guide lines

Those should be investigated.  

[cougar]

On 8/15/2022 at 3:30 PM, Army Guy said:

Tell me how a mentally disable person can make those kind of decisions, "that of being of sound mind". and if it is not them making the decision then who?

Why would we not go done this path, i mean abortion is already legal and if we can kill unborn babies then we should be able to kill anything right , and for any reason. can't find an affordable apartment, depression, any excuse i guess... where do we draw the line. It should not be government sponsored, and nobody is stopping anyone from killing themselves, it is called suicide happens everyday. 

 

From what I know, abortion is possible only in the early stages.    The line you are looking for is right there.

Taking the life of anything that has been born will be murder and will attract legal liability.

Your point regarding the mentally disabled people is fine, except I do not think they will be taking the life of people who can rationally communicate or who can demonstrate that they are still "in there".

The rest do not even know they are alive, so they will not notice when they are not.

Yes, people commit suicides, but need to be mobile to do so.    When you can't get off your bed , you might find it a real challenge.

 

[cougar]

On 8/17/2022 at 3:45 PM, Goddess said:

Just to be clear, I don't do the medical assisting.

Just the preparing mentally and emotionally to release lingering life resentments and guilt, assistance in settling financial affairs and helping prepare necessary documents.  I also work FOR the patient, not the family, even if it's them paying for my services.  So I speak privately with the patient about their last wishes and advocate for those with the family, if necessary.  I am present at the death, if wanted, but I haven't had anyone not want me there.  I also attend the vigil when death is close, if they are going naturally, not using MAID.  I provide information to reassure the family of what noises or colours or other physical issues happen immediately before death.  Some panic when mottling occurs or the infamous "death rattle."  being there to assure everyone these things are normal and expected signs that death is imminent.

I remind them that hearing is the last sense to go and actually lingers for a time after clinical death, so I encourage them to talk to the person and reassure that they can hear them, even if there is no response.

Wow!  I thought I had a bad job, but I wouldn't want yours for sure!