First a trickle....Now a flood

[DogOnPorch]

On 8/19/2022 at 2:19 PM, sharkman said:

Yeah, have you heard the latest from the CDC, backing off of most of their restrictions?  Here’s their latest spokesperson, Rosanne Rosanna Danna:

 

 

Close. That's Gilda's character, Emily Litella.

Loved Roseanne...such a great character.

"It goes to show, it's always something..."

[Goddess]

6 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

That fascist hobbit, Dr Fauci, indeed funds him.

Republicans vow to keep investigating Fauci after he leaves government (msn.com)

Looks like he won't be getting off the hook.

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“Fauci’s resignation will not prevent a full-throated investigation into the origins of the pandemic. He will be asked to testify under oath regarding any discussions he participated in concerning the lab leak,” tweeted Sen. Rand Paul 

Frankly, I don't understand why the investigation has taken so long, other than the fact that Fauci has been caught lying under oath about his involvement.

Gawd, I wish investigative journalism was still a thing.  A good investigative journalist would have blown the lid off this a long time ago.

Fauci funds the sketchy research, virus is released, Fauci gets rich off the "cures" and millions of people die.

Crimes against humanity.

[Goddess]

If he goes down, Dascak and that Chinese b*%$ch will go with him.

Then everyone who covered it up when they recognized what a multi-billion dollar bonanza this was going to be.

 

[DogOnPorch]

2 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Crimes against humanity.

 

...and animals. Dogs, cats, monkeys...you name it. This dude would fund almost anything to use-up his budget. One of the many Mengeles of our time.

[sharkman]

I’ll just leave this here.

 

 

[Goddess]

Hypothesis regarding Fauci resignation:

This will allow him to select his replacement and may enable the appointment to be completed prior to new Congress being sworn in.

Fauci needs a replacement running NIAID who will cover for him.

[DogOnPorch]

11 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Fauci needs a replacement running NIAID who will cover for him.

 

While he gets on a boat to the same place that the Sri-Lankan guy ended-up.

 

Edited August 23, 2022 by DogOnPorch

[Goddess]

In case you missed it, in early September last year, 2 heads of the vaccine division of the FDA quit in disgust over the politicization of their agency around vaccines and the relentless drive to push boosters without sufficient evidence.

In a major blow to vaccine efforts, senior FDA leaders stepping down – Endpoints News (endpts.com)

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The departures also come as the administration has recently jumped ahead of the FDA’s reviews of booster shots, announcing that they might be available by the week of Sept. 20.”

Got that?

This is not “following the science science” it’s “get me some sciencyness to support my politics, and help me cover my hinie on rapid collapse in vaccine efficacy right after I just hectored the world endlessly on their need and effectiveness.”

That’s not medicine, that’s a propaganda whitewash. You do not get to claim to be on the side of science and then push programs and mandates for which the data is not even collected, much less analyzed thereby completely sidestepping the regulators you claim everyone needs to listen to.

It’s medical malpractice.

These 2 were the backbone of the science team at FDA for vaccines.  Two weeks later, they and 16 other health experts published this article in the Lancet: Considerations in boosting COVID-19 vaccine immune responses - The Lancet

In it, they reiterate and amplify their concerns about boosters

• lacking any solid foundation in science at this time,

• questioning the concept altogether,

• and laying out their concerns on the data, the process, and the politics.

This laid plain their reasons for leaving the FDA and, freed from the organizational censors and political pressures, let them speak their minds freely for the first time.  They suggested evidence-based medicine and risk reward calculations, which many faux practitioners of medicine and drug company barkers find objectionable.

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“Careful and public scrutiny of the evolving data will be needed to assure that decisions about boosting are informed by reliable science more than by politics.”

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“there could be risks if boosters are widely introduced too soon, or too frequently, especially with vaccines that can have immune-mediated side-effects (such as myocarditis, which is more common after the second dose of some mRNA vaccines,3 or ,3 Guillain-Barre syndrome, which has been associated with adenovirus-vectored COVID-19 vaccines4).

If unnecessary boosting causes significant adverse reactions, there could be implications for vaccine acceptance that go beyond COVID-19 vaccines. Thus, widespread boosting should be undertaken only if there is clear evidence that it is appropriate.”

 

This is what the real experts were really thinking all along.

This is what public health sounds like when it’s discussed by actual public heath experts.

How odd they were never allowed to speak and had to literally quit their jobs to be able to do so.

And how disappointing that our health agencies have become the sorts of places where the experts are silenced, so the politicians can stay “on message.”

Vaccines (just like boosters) look like a strong idea for some, and a poor idea for others.

 

It is only because this issue has been so politicized in the hands of a reckless few that this idea has not been front and center all along.

And it’s not like the FDA did not know this.

They did.

They were just not allowed to say it.  But now the experts may speak their minds and they are doing so with great clarity:

And I really think we ought to listen.

These are the actual experts. Not Fauci, not Brix, not Walensky, not Tam, not Henry, and definitely not Trudeau.

This is what sense sounds like and what real public health evaluation is supposed to look like.

We’ve been throwing all the things we knew how to do out the window since this started and going on an unprecedented epidemiological joy ride with the lives and livelihoods of billions. We’ve ignored 100 years of evidence based pandemic guidelines and drug development knowledge and process.

We did it by silencing those that actually knew anything and subjugating them to grifters, hucksters, political fief builders, politicians, and demagogues.

This is not the road to good science or to good policy.

It’s clear these agencies are no longer about public health and it’s reprehensible that we’re created a situation where the top people have to quit to be allowed to speak the truth about medical interventions being marketed to and increasingly forced upon billions of people.

We should follow the experts, not the agency nameplates.

Elvis has left the building and now he's performing in the parking lot.

Where YOU gonna be?

[Goddess]

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A scientific scandal with huge implications for women's health is brewing and you weren't going to hear about it - until now.

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A paper was published in October showing how the mRNA vaccines could massively impact ovarian and breast cancer risk.  Two scientists linked to the NIH and Pharma conspired to remove it from publication - putting a generation of women at risk.

Welcome to Gilead - by Dr Ah Kahn Syed - Arkmedic's blog (substack.com)

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So, if there was a novel therapeutic that interfered with the body’s cells’ ability to produce p53 and make the BRCA pathway work defending our genome - you would think that would be important, wouldn’t you? Well I guess it depends on who is funding the therapeutic and whether they care two hoots whether you (or your mother, wife or daughter) get cancer.

 

What you really, really don’t want in this scenario is:

(1) the spike protein in the vicinity of the nucleus, where the DNA repair happens
(2) the spike protein to be continually produced
(3) a full length spike artificial protein matching the viral spike, because we don’t know which bit of the spike protein is causing this effect.

Well, guess what?

It just so happens that there is a genetic therapy currently in production that
(1) induces spike protein to be produced in and around the cell nucleus
(2) is produced for at least 60 days and almost certainly longer
(3) produces the full length spike exactly matching (amino acid for amino acid1) the full length of the viral spike protein

 

 

 

Edited August 23, 2022 by Goddess

[taxme]

On 8/20/2022 at 6:41 PM, Goddess said:

Let's talk masks.

Masks as covid control was never science.  The worst part is that....we already knew this before covid.

We knew it because lots of people study masks and mask efficacy.  They just are not, mostly, doctors. They are industrial hygienists and forensic engineers and they have been minutely studying mask efficacy, aerosols, and particles for a century at least.  It’s a highly evolved discipline used every day in millions of workplaces and if anyone had bothered to ask, it could have told us that this was rubbish right from day one.

Incidentally, this is WHY the world's pandemic plan - which was tossed out the window along with known science, called for decisions to be made during a pandemic by more than just one entity.  Doctors, economists, engineers, etc - all were to be consulted. Decisions were not too be made by ONE public health employee who had no experience in any of these things.

To start - the sub-micron sized covid virion is so small compared to the weave of a mask, it's like trying to stop birdshot with a chain link fence.

Even if a virus is in droplets, the pressure and explosive force that strains droplets or virion clusters though a weave (even in a perfectly fit mask) acts as a nebulizer.

This puts the virus into the air as a finer aerosol and aerosols do not behave the way people imagine. Their range is not short. They do not fly in some 6 foot line. They hang. For a virus the size of a covid virion (0.1-0.3 micron), hang time is on the order of 1-2 weeks. That’s not a typo. Weeks.

And this matters because the simple fact is this: your mask does not fit and it never will. It would be dangerous if it did. You’d risk asphyxiation or dangerously low O2.

A 1% edge gap is 50% leakage. A 2% gap (which is far better than you will achieve) is 75%.

Your mask is probably leaking 90-95%  of aerosolized virus that then hangs in the air for a week.

See this study in Aerosol Science and Technology, 2021:

Full article: Aerosol filtration efficiency of household materials for homemade face masks: Influence of material properties, particle size, particle electrical charge, face velocity, and leaks (tandfonline.com)

There is no way your mask protects you.  Or anyone else.

See this study from 2020:  Landmark Danish study finds no significant effect for facemask wearers | The Spectator

They do not even work on surgeons in a medical theater, so the idea that they will “protect you from me” in the grocery store or on the sidewalk is ridiculous. It also shows that the idea of capacity limitations and social distancing is simply.....a performance.  We’re all going to the grocery store. Everything we breathe out, masked or no, is in the air for days or weeks. Taking turns a few at a time is just annoying, not effective.

This is why, using masks in a real life setting and measuring clinical outcomes has been shown, over and over, to do nothing to stop respiratory disease.  Granted, the mechanics sound plausible if you do not really understand them AND it makes for great performative pseudoscience and social conditioning.

The mechanics of the whole system, as practiced by actual humans, are simply not capable of making even a tiny difference. This was known. The WHO said so in 2019 in a metastudy that everyone used to believe and then suddenly ignored and why the WHO tweeted this in March, 2020:

So, this idea that “experts” thought that masks were “warranted” based on “the science” and that there was some longstanding guidance or expectation that masks were going to be be effective......is a lie.

You know why you never heard about this during some bad flu season in the past? Because pretty much every expert in the world knew that it did not work. It was not even  argued. In fact, putting masks on people who are not exhibiting symptoms was always contra-indicated.

So.   Why have they been seized upon and presented as such a MORAL imperative?  I mean, some people who wouldn't wear them were BEAT UP ON THE STREET and yelled at and prevented from going about their everyday lives. 

Because it was the low energy path for politicians to appear proactive and for the self-righteous to virtue signal. It cost less than full lockdowns - which were ineffective and far too obviously damaging to keep up as a charade. It was an effective in-group/out-group wedge that could be used to political advantage.

Masked staff, a street full of faceless people, stores and planes with mask mandates and hectoring compliance, every one of these things not only dissolves human communication and empathy by eliminating powerful non-verbal lines of communication, they scream “This is not normal! Crisis! Crisis! Be afraid, danger is all around us!”

Wearing these masks is not alleviating the underlying anxiety of those demanding them, it’s validating it.

There are risks we take every day.  The idea that we “owe” society some level of complete protection in some absolute sense is never true. It’s an absurdist moral pretext.

Most of us drive. Driving places those around you at risk. Risk could be FAR lower if no one were allowed to exceed 20 km, even on the highway. Yet there is not one group claiming we ought to do this despite the fact that the lifetime risk of not just injury, but death by automobile in the US is 1 in 107.

Risk of dying from the seasonal flu is (1 in 6400 annually), another risk society long since voted it did not care enough about to mitigate beyond “stay home if you don’t feel well.” you probably have a better chance of dying by slipping and falling in the shower.

We are so used to the flu killing 8000 Canadians every year, that no one even notices it. And if we counted flu the way we count covid, test for covid, report covid, test every death for covid, and counted any death with a positive genetic flu trace as a “flu death” we’d up that number by 5-10X.

We certainly never cowered at home, closed the national economy, cancelled everything, and forced masks and distancing on people. We’ve never considered “zero flu”, because doing so is absurd.

So what on earth are we playing at here with this “vax then keep masking and distancing” nonsense? 

 

It makes zero epidemiological sense.  Anyone pushing it is either a full fledged idiot or a liar pushing some other agenda. Neither seems a sound qualification for being in charge of (as @taxmewould say) "we the people".

This is not science, it’s Scientology.

A young, healthy person might well chose not to vaccinate. And that might be a risk minimizing choice for them when faced with an experimental vaccine that does have some risks. An older, higher risk person might look at those same vaccine risks and find them to be easily worth it. That’s between you and your doctor.

This is just manipulation of perception run riot. The media and health officials have been such relentless purveyors of panic and outright lies that public perception of covid danger is 10-50X the reality.

my sympathy for the "Mask Karens" is extremely limited. And for government and public health officials, it's even less.  They pushed this, they did it to us. They continue to cheerlead for MORE FEAR!! and even now seem unable to let go and realize that covid risk is now FAR below flu and always was for the young and healthy and especially for children.

Get past the derangement and get to the facts:

• Even people at high risk for covid are at lower risk to it than they are to flu

• Most of us were lower risk to it all along.

This is LONG since over. Wake up and realize it. Wake up and smell the freedom and if it is not given to you, take it. It was always yours, not theirs.

You’re a citizen, not a subject.

And take off the mask (unless you have an actual medical issue for wearing it).  You look like an adult clutching a "wubbie".

 

The whole covid 19 fiasco was nothing more than one big lie and hoax from the very beginning. Many scumbags made plenty of money from pushing the lie of covid. Many of those scumbags became billionaires thanks to covid. It was all about pushing vaccines by big pharma who no doubt big pharma has made hundreds of billions in profit from pushing their dangerous experimental vaccines.

I read that even Doug Ford made plenty of money off of covid. He apparently owned a company that made those social distancing signs. I wonder as to how much profit did Ford make from his sales of his signs? And I have to wonder as to how many other politicians profited from covid by pushing vaccines and making signs of their own for covid? 

It all comes down to one big lie and sadly the losers in this covid game of lies were we the peasants. We paid heavily for what our dear lying pro globalist WEF leaders have done to us all. If I had my way I would have them all arrested and charged and thrown in the gulag with crimes against humanity. Covid has to have been one of the most biggest of all lies and hoaxes ever forced on we the peasants. Those that keep wearing those clown masks are brain dead. Those that are taking booster jabs are really brain dead. Sadly, Canada is full of brain dead buffoons. ?

[TreeBeard]

1 hour ago, taxme said:

The whole covid 19 fiasco was nothing more than one big lie and hoax from the very beginning.

Then why did Trump order “Operation Warp Speed” to make a vaccine?

Is Trump in on the COVID hoax?

Edited August 23, 2022 by TreeBeard

[Goddess]

1 hour ago, TreeBeard said:

Then why did Trump order “Operation Warp Speed” to make a vaccine?

Is Trump in on the COVID hoax?

Please stop derailing my thread.

[Goddess]

21 hours ago, Goddess said:

Hypothesis regarding Fauci resignation:

This will allow him to select his replacement and may enable the appointment to be completed prior to new Congress being sworn in.

Fauci needs a replacement running NIAID who will cover for him.

Apparently Sen. Rand Paul is thinking the same:

Rand Paul tells NIH to retain Fauci records (msn.com)

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"I formally request you ensure the preservation of all documents and communications within Dr. Fauci's possession related to his tenure at the National Institutes of Health (NIH). This information is critical to ensure that Congress has access to information necessary to conduct proper oversight," Paul wrote in a letter to Lawrence Tabak, acting director of the NIH, as reported by the Daily Caller.

 

[DogOnPorch]

18 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Apparently Sen. Rand Paul is thinking the same:

Rand Paul tells NIH to retain Fauci records (msn.com)

 

 

JP on what you just mentioned...

 

[Goddess]

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/lifestyle/smart-living/pfizer-covid-shots-appear-73-effective-in-children-under-5/ar-AA10ZXqD?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=e78cedc507d9444cf3779c58c823f14c

Children have almost 0% risk.

This is like if your job paid you $0 an hour and your boss told you he's going to give you a 73% raise.

Where has risk/benefit analysis gone in medicine?  It used to be the bedrock of science-based medicine.  Your child is at greater risk of myocarditis from the shots.

Of course, the simple-minded will see "73%" and rush to get their children jabbed.  And they will trot out this number, like it means something.

[Goddess]

So, these new bivalent boosters.....

Moderna’s bivalent booster is said to “provide a strong immune response against the Omicron BA.1 variant as well as the original 2020 Wuhan strain,” which, for the record, is extinct and no longer in circulation anywhere in the world.  BA.1 is now rarely ever found, either. So, this booster contains two strains that aren’t even relevant anymore.  See graph below:

Important to note:  These boosters will not undergo additional testing.  It is claimed that since the first jabs were sooooo "safe and effective" (?) these ones will be, too.

They’re being rolled out under a new fast-track standard where ingredients can be swapped out without additional testing.

This is the standard protocol for seasonal flu vaccines. However, we’re now using an entirely new type and essentially untested technology. There’s no telling whether variations in the spike mRNA being injected might produce vastly different side effects. They could potentially have differing toxicities, but that’s not being investigated.

Also, remember that the “efficacy” they’re referring to is only based on measurements of antibody titers, which tells us nothing, really, about its ability to prevent infection, severity of illness or death. Why?

Because antibodies form only a part of your immune response, and they’re not even the most important. It is far more likely that your innate immune system — your first line of defense — will destroy a virus before your adaptive immune system even has a chance to respond and create antibodies.

It is important to understand that no vaccine improves your innate immune response. All vaccines are ever able to do is address your own individual adaptive immune system and create antibodies. Your innate immune system has T cells that can directly kill viruses.

If you happen to have a vigorous T cell response, you’ll be protected even if your antibodies are low. So, antibodies are not a necessary measure of immunity.

Antibody titer levels are what’s called a “surrogate outcome.” It’s a substitute for actual clinical outcome. But it’s in no way equivalent, no matter how much the powers in control want it to be.

Antibody titers may be high, but in the real world, more people may end up in the hospital and die — either from the infection or from the shot. In short, high antibody titer is not a guarantee of effectiveness — and it tells us absolutely nothing about safety.

Coronaviruses mutate very rapidly in general, and the mRNA jabs are based on a surface protein (spike), which is the most rapidly mutating portion of the entire virus. What happens when you vaccinate against a rapidly mutating virus? You encourage it to mutate even faster, and to develop immune-evading properties.

This is what we’ve been witnessing since the beginning of the COVID-19 jab campaign, and at this point, there’s no hope of ever catching up with the virus. What’s worse, while variants have so far evolved into milder strains, they are in fact gaining the ability to evade antibodies, and could theoretically switch course to become even more parthenogenic.

This is particularly true when a vaccine is “leaky,” meaning it doesn’t fully prevent infection (which none of the COVID-19 shots do). Just like when you overuse an antibiotic that fails to eradicate the bacteria, which allows antibiotic-resistant bacteria to flourish, overuse of a leaky vaccine can pressure a virus to become more lethal.

BA.4 and BA.5 are the most resistant to date, with BA.5 able to get around even of those with natural immunity. Fortunately, it doesn’t appear to cause severe illness in most people.

The take-home here is that, had natural immunity been allowed to take place without these jabs, the pandemic would be over and reinfections near-nonexistent. Instead, we’re now in a pandemic of the vaccinated, with the vast majority of serious infections occurring among those who have been jabbed.

Choice of whether to boost or not, should be made with FULL INFORMED CONSENT.

I hope the information here helps in your decision.

 

Edited August 24, 2022 by Goddess

[Goddess]

This Australian politician (August 2, 2022) has clearly done his research and he explains the dangers of the jabbers really quite well.  I'm impressed.

Gerard Rennick: "I'm here to talk about how unsafe the vaccines are."

[dialamah]

Scientists quit over vaccine claims

The data has been misused because it makes the (incorrect) assumption that all deaths occurring post vaccination are caused by vaccination," Ewer wrote in an email. "[And] it is now being used by anti-vaxxers and COVID-19-deniers as evidence that COVID-19 vaccines are not safe. [This] is grossly irresponsible, particularly for a journal specialising in vaccines."

[Goddess]

16 hours ago, dialamah said:

Scientists quit over vaccine claims

The data has been misused because it makes the (incorrect) assumption that all deaths occurring post vaccination are caused by vaccination," Ewer wrote in an email. "[And] it is now being used by anti-vaxxers and COVID-19-deniers as evidence that COVID-19 vaccines are not safe. [This] is grossly irresponsible, particularly for a journal specialising in vaccines."

Had this person, and yourself, actually read the concerns of the 2 who quit and the 16 other scientists who agreed with them, or even if you had read the 2 articles I posted regarding this (you clearly didn't, and just went to you usual quick google to rebut) - you would have seen that "vaccine deaths" were barely mentioned and did not represent the bulk of their complaint.

They clearly state that what they did not agree with, was the politicization of boosters, that boosters were being pushed untested and were announced to the public before they were even approved for distribution.

Even the Lancet article is mainly talking about the unknown efficacy of boosters.

Scientists often disagree.   Welcome to the world of science, Dia!

When some scientists are saying  "safe and effective" and others are saying "hold on a minute", do you think it's good science to censor and blacklist the ones are saying "hold on a minute"?  Or is it better to listen to their concerns and find answers?

You seem to be in the "shut them up by any means necessary"  and "no scientific debate allowed" category.

Like you, I am aware that some scientists are 100% for these experimental vaccines.  Unlike you, I take into consideration who is funding them.

 

[Goddess]

16 hours ago, dialamah said:

Scientists quit over vaccine claims

The data has been misused because it makes the (incorrect) assumption that all deaths occurring post vaccination are caused by vaccination," Ewer wrote in an email. "[And] it is now being used by anti-vaxxers and COVID-19-deniers as evidence that COVID-19 vaccines are not safe. [This] is grossly irresponsible, particularly for a journal specialising in vaccines."

Do you have anything to say about the information here on OAS and immune imprinting, which explains why vaccinated people are contracting and spreading covid, getting hospitalized and dying at vastly higher rates than the unvaccinated in all highly-vaccinated countries?  Or why low-vaccine uptake countries are not experiencing these issues?

Why do you think this well-established science on how viruses behave with leaky vaccines should not be considered?

Do the scientists you are following have an explanation for why this happening?

[sharkman]

I’ll just leave this here.

 

https://cleverjourneys.wordpress.com/2021/12/14/american-heart-association-97-8-of-under-age-21-patients-who-suffered-myocarditis-was-within-a-month-after-their-mrna-shot/?preview=true

 

97% of under 21 yr olds who suffered myocarditis, did so within a month after an mRNA shot.

[Goddess]

39 minutes ago, sharkman said:

I’ll just leave this here.

 

https://cleverjourneys.wordpress.com/2021/12/14/american-heart-association-97-8-of-under-age-21-patients-who-suffered-myocarditis-was-within-a-month-after-their-mrna-shot/?preview=true

 

97% of under 21 yr olds who suffered myocarditis, did so within a month after an mRNA shot.

Makes you wonder why universities like U of T and Western are requiring students to have at least 3 jabs to be able to attend classes.

Smells to me  like lawsuits waiting to happen.

Did you hear the recorded phone call of the father who's wife jabbed his 7 year old behind his back and against his wishes?  The little guy was in the hospital with myo 2 days later.   He called up the pharmacy and demanded to know why his wife wasn't told of this risk when she brought the boy in and the pharmacist said they don't tell people, so that people will bring their kiddos in to get jabbed.  He thanked the pharmacist for saying that, because he was recording the call for his lawyer.

When this blows up, I hope every doctor, nurse, pharmacist who shoved those jabs into little kids without explaining a 25% increase in risk of myocarditis....gets their asses sued off.

[DogOnPorch]

1 minute ago, Goddess said:

Makes you wonder why universities like U of T and Western are requiring students to have at least 3 jabs to be able to attend classes.

Smells to me  like lawsuits waiting to happen.

Did you hear the recorded phone call of the father who's wife jabbed his 7 year old behind his back and against his wishes?  The little guy was in the hospital with myo 2 days later.   He called up the pharmacy and demanded to know why his wife wasn't told of this risk when she brought the boy in and the pharmacist said they don't tell people, so that people will bring their kiddos in to get jabbed.  He thanked the pharmacist for saying that, because he was recording the call for his lawyer.

When this blows up, I hope every doctor, nurse, pharmacist who shoved those jabs into little kids without explaining a 25% increase in risk of myocarditis....gets their asses sued off.

 

First, do no harm.

[sharkman]

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

Makes you wonder why universities like U of T and Western are requiring students to have at least 3 jabs to be able to attend classes.

Smells to me  like lawsuits waiting to happen.

Did you hear the recorded phone call of the father who's wife jabbed his 7 year old behind his back and against his wishes?  The little guy was in the hospital with myo 2 days later.   He called up the pharmacy and demanded to know why his wife wasn't told of this risk when she brought the boy in and the pharmacist said they don't tell people, so that people will bring their kiddos in to get jabbed.  He thanked the pharmacist for saying that, because he was recording the call for his lawyer.

When this blows up, I hope every doctor, nurse, pharmacist who shoved those jabs into little kids without explaining a 25% increase in risk of myocarditis....gets their asses sued off.

I’ve heard rumours that insurance companies will be going after big pharma for vaccine injuries…

[Goddess]

28 minutes ago, sharkman said:

I’ve heard rumours that insurance companies will be going after big pharma for vaccine injuries…

Ya, quite a few now reporting a 40% increase in death and disability claims.

They have no choice.  They can't absorb those kinds of losses.

I don't think they'll have much trouble when they go after Pharma.  The majority of deaths occur within the first 48 hours after vaccination.

Edited August 25, 2022 by Goddess