Nationalist Posted September 14, 2022 Report Posted September 14, 2022 On 9/7/2022 at 11:29 PM, dialamah said: Not even close to what he wrote. Actually...it is. And that was a question that I see hasn't been answered. Reproduction is a moral imperative that stems from the survival instinct. If single motherhood is not something to be pitied and avoided...then perhaps you can explain why so many are heard saying things like... 'She's a single mother who succeeded. '? That statement itself is a moral judgement. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
dialamah Posted September 14, 2022 Report Posted September 14, 2022 30 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Actually...it is. And that was a question that I see hasn't been answered. Reproduction is a moral imperative that stems from the survival instinct. If single motherhood is not something to be pitied and avoided...then perhaps you can explain why so many are heard saying things like... 'She's a single mother who succeeded. '? That statement itself is a moral judgement. He said:. People may have thought that having children was a moral virtue, and that unwed mothers should be looked down upon Nowhere did he say that single parenthood was better than two parents, or that it was a special virtue. Saying someone did a good job as a single parent only acknowledges that single parenthood is more difficult than two parents. It is not a moral judgement. 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted September 14, 2022 Report Posted September 14, 2022 3 hours ago, dialamah said: He said:. People may have thought that having children was a moral virtue, and that unwed mothers should be looked down upon Nowhere did he say that single parenthood was better than two parents, or that it was a special virtue. Saying someone did a good job as a single parent only acknowledges that single parenthood is more difficult than two parents. It is not a moral judgement. Are you sure you know what a moral judgment is? It is your sense of morality that makes you acknowledge a single mother's success. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
TreeBeard Posted September 14, 2022 Report Posted September 14, 2022 13 hours ago, Zeitgeist said: You’re unable to discern between behaviours. All are of equal value to you, which makes you a nihilist. You’re the man at the beginning of L’etranger:”My mother died today, or was it yesterday?” Freedom without purpose is meaninglessness. Didn’t you complete your existentialist phase in young adulthood? I can’t debate someone for whom nothing matters. You want everyone to conform to your narrow view of how a person should behave so much so that 2 people shouldn’t be able to be themselves at their own wedding. If personal freedom is nihilism to you, then I’m a proud nihilist. We’re not going back as a society to cops busting men dancing with men at a bar and dragging them before the courts to be judged by freedom hating assholes. Those days are done, thank secularism. 1 Quote
herbie Posted September 14, 2022 Report Posted September 14, 2022 9 hours ago, Nationalist said: Reproduction is a moral imperative that stems from the survival instinct. No it isn't you dummy. It's biological imperative. You should learn the difference. 1 Quote
Zeitgeist Posted September 14, 2022 Author Report Posted September 14, 2022 48 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: You want everyone to conform to your narrow view of how a person should behave so much so that 2 people shouldn’t be able to be themselves at their own wedding. If personal freedom is nihilism to you, then I’m a proud nihilist. We’re not going back as a society to cops busting men dancing with men at a bar and dragging them before the courts to be judged by freedom hating assholes. Those days are done, thank secularism. I was waiting for you and Dialamah to find each other. Celebrate your soulless misanthropy together. 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted September 15, 2022 Report Posted September 15, 2022 13 hours ago, herbie said: No it isn't you dummy. It's biological imperative. You should learn the difference. Hilarious. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
TreeBeard Posted September 15, 2022 Report Posted September 15, 2022 5 hours ago, Nationalist said: Hilarious. Do you think all biological imperatives are moral imperatives? Quote
herbie Posted September 15, 2022 Report Posted September 15, 2022 2 hours ago, TreeBeard said: Do you think all biological imperatives are moral imperatives? Wouldn't that be fun? We'd do it like they do on the Discovery Channel instead of hate everyone a bit different. Quote
Nationalist Posted September 16, 2022 Report Posted September 16, 2022 23 hours ago, TreeBeard said: Do you think all biological imperatives are moral imperatives? A biological imperative is an instinct. This instinct, as discussed earlier, creates a moral imperative. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
TreeBeard Posted September 16, 2022 Report Posted September 16, 2022 4 hours ago, Nationalist said: A biological imperative is an instinct. This instinct, as discussed earlier, creates a moral imperative. This has already been debunked as nonsense. You yourself keep contradicting your own statement. On 9/7/2022 at 5:58 PM, TreeBeard said: History is not a good way to determine morality. Otherwise, we would still have things like slavery. People may have thought that having children was a moral virtue, and that unwed mothers should be looked down upon, but, like slavery, it turns out their moral judgement was wrong. On 9/7/2022 at 8:59 AM, TreeBeard said: If we need to temper them, then obviously they aren’t good to use as a moral system. What do we temper them with…. More instincts? Your assertion that instincts are what we use as a moral system is deeply flawed. Quote
QuebecOverCanada Posted September 17, 2022 Report Posted September 17, 2022 1. Should Schools Fly Gay Pride Flags? No, and I have a suggestion. That they teach mathematics, English/French, Science, Arts and PE. I know, a very extremist viewpoint nowadays. 3 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted September 17, 2022 Report Posted September 17, 2022 9 hours ago, QuebecOverCanada said: 1. Should Schools Fly Gay Pride Flags? No, and I have a suggestion. That they teach mathematics, English/French, Science, Arts and PE. I know, a very extremist viewpoint nowadays. They don't teach the flag in front of the school. They do teach math and English etc. They always have. They also have always taught values. Inclusion is a value, and it's important and supported by parents and by the community. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Nationalist Posted September 17, 2022 Report Posted September 17, 2022 13 hours ago, TreeBeard said: This has already been debunked as nonsense. You yourself keep contradicting your own statement. Nothing has been "debunked". Having children is still a moral imperative. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
DogOnPorch Posted September 17, 2022 Report Posted September 17, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Nothing has been "debunked". Having children is still a moral imperative. Debunked = The MSM told me that you're a liar. Edited September 17, 2022 by DogOnPorch 1 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Nationalist Posted September 17, 2022 Report Posted September 17, 2022 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: They don't teach the flag in front of the school. They do teach math and English etc. They always have. They also have always taught values. Inclusion is a value, and it's important and supported by parents and by the community. See? Nothing to be concerned about. The flag representing sexual deviance is only about "inclusion". Same with Trany-hosted storytime. That is...unless you don't think this sort of sexual "inclusion" is appropriate for your elementary age child. Then you can expect a nice healthy dose of "exclusion". See? All innocent and happy... Edited September 17, 2022 by Nationalist 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
DogOnPorch Posted September 17, 2022 Report Posted September 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, Nationalist said: See? Nothing to be concerned about. The flag representing sexual deviance is only about "inclusion". Same with Trany-hosted storytime. That is...unless you don't think this sort of sexual "inclusion" is appropriate for your elementary age child. Then you can expect a nice healthy dose of "exclusion". See? All innocent and happy... The public were willing to put-up with the whole passion play thing until they actually started coming for the kids. Gender assignment surgery for 7 year olds? Seriously? Oh...they're serious. 2 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Michael Hardner Posted September 17, 2022 Report Posted September 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: 1. Nothing to be concerned about. The flag representing sexual deviance is only about "inclusion". 2. Same with Trany-hosted storytime. 3. That is...unless you don't think this sort of sexual "inclusion" is appropriate for your elementary age child. Then you can expect a nice healthy dose of "exclusion". 1. You're starting to get it. 2. No that's just fun. 3. Keep your kid at home then... Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
I am Groot Posted September 17, 2022 Report Posted September 17, 2022 (edited) 17 hours ago, QuebecOverCanada said: 1. Should Schools Fly Gay Pride Flags? No, and I have a suggestion. That they teach mathematics, English/French, Science, Arts and PE. I know, a very extremist viewpoint nowadays. In Portland, the woke school system is teaching kindergarten kids that the idea gender is binary was brought to American by white colonizers. "When the United States was colonized by white settlers, their views around gender were forced upon people already living here." Edited September 17, 2022 by I am Groot Quote
Michael Hardner Posted September 17, 2022 Report Posted September 17, 2022 29 minutes ago, I am Groot said: In Portland, the woke school system is teaching kindergarten kids that the idea gender is binary was brought to American by white colonizers. Oftentimes this turns out to be one teacher saying something dumb, then apologizing. Making it a significant thing is dishonest, kind of like saying that the convoy people are all racist because one of them is. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
herbie Posted September 17, 2022 Report Posted September 17, 2022 Or by a teacher who actually had a clue about native culture. They tended to accept people who are different and don't have this absolute disgust drilled into them by centuries of a dominating monolithic religion. Quote
Nationalist Posted September 17, 2022 Report Posted September 17, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. You're starting to get it. 2. No that's just fun. 3. Keep your kid at home then... I think I'd rather get involved with the local parents group. You know...just to see how many parents actually are OK with this. Edited September 17, 2022 by Nationalist 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted September 17, 2022 Report Posted September 17, 2022 30 minutes ago, herbie said: Or by a teacher who actually had a clue about native culture. They tended to accept people who are different and don't have this absolute disgust drilled into them by centuries of a dominating monolithic religion. Says the guy who has no idea what he's talking about. FYI... https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/-are-invisible-discrimination-risks-abound-indigenous-lgbtq-mexico-rcna982 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
herbie Posted September 17, 2022 Report Posted September 17, 2022 So he runs off to the Internet to search for 1 example to tout as the 'every case'. And ducks back to ad hominem. You already lost the main argument over the thread subject. Why delve into such pettiness to dig yourself deeper on every single thing? 1 Quote
QuebecOverCanada Posted September 18, 2022 Report Posted September 18, 2022 On 9/17/2022 at 6:13 AM, Michael Hardner said: 1.They don't teach the flag in front of the school. 2.They do teach math and English etc. They always have. They also have always taught values. Inclusion is a value, and it's important and supported by parents and by the community. 1. Of course they do, the subject is brought up often by students, parents; what is this flag in front of our school? 2. The standards of teaching are going down in Ontario. The Ontario Divisional Court stated that giving wanna-be teachers a standardized math test is unconstitutional. Quote
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