Dbl- And Triple-Jabbed Deaths Vastly Outnumber Unvaxed Deaths Since Dec 2021.

[eyeball]

51 minutes ago, Goddess said:

If CBC put a monkey in a suit and tie and said he was an "expert" on covid, Eyeball would be parroting the monkey right now. 

Damn right I would if you were the alternative.

[Tony Hladun]

Last week I had my COVID booster and this week I was ill and tested positive for COVID.  My wife had the 4X flu booster and this week she's got a bad flu but doesn't test positive for COVID.  A friend of hers also got the COVID shot and became ill but I don't have details.  I almost never get the flu so maybe this is just a coincidence, but we have some real concerns here.  In the COVID hysteria is there enough testing, are the doses getting too strong, are the lock-downs weakening immune systems, etc.?  We have taken the shots because we are in our 70's and we believe we should not burden the health care system by becoming ill when we can prevent it, but it makes you think. 

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Damn right I would 

Yep

[Goddess]

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

Damn right I would if you were the alternative.

Remember you said that, when the truth comes out. 

Because I'm going to remember all of you who supported this shit show and wanted the unvaxxed gassed and killed, fired from their careers, denied healthcare and thrown into camps.

[dialamah]

11 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Remember you said that, when the truth comes out. 

Because I'm going to remember all of you who supported this shit show and wanted the unvaxxed gassed and killed, fired from their careers, denied healthcare and thrown into camps.

You just get more and more ridiculous with your entire topic of vaccine fear porn and insane hyperbole.  

[Goddess]

40 minutes ago, dialamah said:

You just get more and more ridiculous with your entire topic of vaccine fear porn and insane hyperbole.  

Meh.  You'd feel the same if people marched in Ottawa with signs saying you should be killed and gassed and your government, who is a big admirer of China, discriminated against you because you didn't want to be part of the big experiment by taking a big bunch of jabs you don't even need personally and all the sheeple cheered them on.

I guarantee you'd be reading way more medical studies than you're reading now.

[cougar]

9 hours ago, West said:

I am right.. death rate was less than 1% for the vast majority of the population. The vast majority recover at home with a bowl of chicken noodle soup and some Buckleys

I thought you wanted to compare the death rate of vaccinated with that of the unvaccinated as the thread title tells us.

So you need to get the death rate of the vaccinated as a percentage of all vaccinated and then compare it to the death rate of the unvaccinated as a percentage of all unvaccinated.

But even then you will be off, because the vaccinated include the vast majority of people at risk, who thought getting vaccinated is a good thing.   The unvaccinated are for the most part those who considered themselves healthy enough to take a chance, plus those who thought the vaccine will be harmful to them.

[Goddess]

55 minutes ago, cougar said:

So you need to get the death rate of the vaccinated as a percentage of all vaccinated and then compare it to the death rate of the unvaccinated as a percentage of all unvaccinated.

The problem is - no one is collating data on this.  Literally, no one.  Not the CDC, not the FDA, not Israel, even though Albert Bourla called Israel "the world's laboratory."

You would think that with human experimentation going on, on this scale, collating the data would be a priority.

[OftenWrong]

14 hours ago, Goddess said:

The problem is - no one is collating data on this.  Literally, no one.  Not the CDC, not the FDA, not Israel, even though Albert Bourla called Israel "the world's laboratory."

You would think that with human experimentation going on, on this scale, collating the data would be a priority.

There really needs to be an inquiry.

[eyeball]

8 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

There really needs to be an inquiry.

Who do we entrust that too?

We'll need a team of impartial aliens from other planets.

[dialamah]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

Who do we entrust that too?

We'll need a team of impartial aliens from other planets.

I think they'd give up after 15 minutes.

[eyeball]

9 minutes ago, dialamah said:

I think they'd give up after 15 minutes.

Yup. Beam us up, there's no intelligent life here. 

[Goddess]

Many doctors and scientists have been calling for this for almost 2 years.

The institutions in power positions, who had to be dragged to court to release the data, obviously don't want anyone analyzing it but themselves.

Pfizer touted its jabs as 95% efficacious, that's how they got the EUA and got governments to sign off on liability.  Once the data was released, it was clear that efficacy was nothing near 95%.  Even more obvious now.  But governments had already signed binding contracts with Big Pharma and given them full immunity from liabilities and were forcing everyone to jab repeatedly or lose their jobs.

I think at this point, institutions and authorities know.  But to admit they were wrong to put blind faith in Big Pharma and coerce jabs and lockdowns, restrictions and mandates would result in mega lawsuits. and loss of careers.  It's far easier to continue the bamboozle on populations who have already been cowed into compliance with unprecedented overreach by a constant barrage of fear porn.  The average person is still too afraid to demand any kind of inquiry.

At some point though, it's going to be too obvious and the gig will be up.

There's been over 1000 athletes drop on sports fields, over 700 of them died instantly.  Normally, there's 39 in a year.  That number doesn't even include all the non-famous children and teenagers dropping dead in sports.  Google "died suddenly".  It's astonishing.  "Unknown Causes" is the biggest cause of death in Alberta now.  That's unacceptable.

People will only take it for so long.  They keep trying to squash the groups - scientific and otherwise - but it's really just a giant game of whack-a-mole at this point.  Notice how quickly "monkeypox" died out?  I think because people know now.  Nobody's jumping on getting jabbed 10-12 times a year - I mean, c'mon.  You'd have to be totally brainwashed.

Any inquiry is likely years away yet.

[WestCanMan]

Here's a comparison of Canada "almost completely unvaxed" vs Canada "86% vaxed".

I'll say right now that it shows that the vaccines did a big, fat, zero, but if you gotta see the full proof, read on....

The meat and potatoes starts at the "How Many Canadians Died of Covid" section. What's between here and there is background info that you can choose to read for your own info. 

Vaccine, or Pflacebo?

If what we have truly qualifies as a covid "vaccine", and it really gives people an 80% chance better of surviving covid, then we should be able to see evidence of that by seeing how well we fared back when we were "unvaxed" to when we, the exact same group of people just one year later, fared after 86% of us were "vaccinated" multiple times. 

In order to do that, first you need to know what % of us were vaxed, to what extent (1-4 doses), and when that happened. 

Covid "Vaccination" Status of Canadians:

I have the "% of Canadians vaxed" timeline and the Canadian covid deaths" timelines attached below:

How are vaccination stats presented to us in Canada?

The next thing you need to know is that the "outcome" stats (deaths, cases, etc) presented to us by our government are always from Dec 14 2020 moving fwd .

It's important to know that they never talk in terms of "how many people died in the last x number of days", they only refer to the number of deaths from Dec 14 to the present. It can be very misleading if you don't keep that in your head, and they won't remind you. 

As an example, they'll post something like "Dec 14 to present" at the top of a page, and then halfway down they'll say something like "Only 4.5% of covid deaths are among the quadruple vaxed", which would imply that's what's happening right now, but they actually mean "4.5% of people who died since Dec 14 2020 were 4xers".  (in fact they said that exact thing and someone from this site was fooled by it and quoted it here).

It's very misleading when they do that, some would say "intentionally misleading", because the timeline goes back almost two years, and people didn't even start getting the 4th jab until this spring, but they'll do a straight across comparison between 4 months of quadruple-vxed deaths and all 22 months of all he other deaths. It's like if I talked about the number of points by LA Lakers over the past ten years and I said "LeBron only has 4.5% of the points scored by the Lkers in that time". It's a completely worthless stat because he's only been there for 1 year or so. There's no way you can even make it relevant. The only way to judge his presence there is by "what % of the team's points were scored while LeBron was there". It seems obvious, but health Canada presents stats in a very misleading way imo. You have to do all the legwork yourself.

How many Canadians died of covid? 

The bulk of the covid stats which I refer to all start on Dec 14 2020, so I do all my statistical comps from that day fwd. Their choice, not mine.

Here's the overall graphs for deaths, but I'll break it down into relevant sections for the purpose of this tpic.

We have a lot of stats from Dec 14 2020 moving fwd.

Let's look at the vax/death stats from Dec 14th, when 38M Canadians were all unvaxed, and exposed to covid during flu season.

Vax status after the initial rollout:

You can see that almost everyone in Canada was basically unvaxed from Dec 14 to the start of July.

How many Canadians died during that period?

What was the vax/status and the number of deaths a year later, when 86% of us were vaxed?

And the number of deaths?

Here are the death charts cropped, side by side, so you can quickly compare:

Dec 14 2020 - Aug 2021 and

Dec 14 2021 - Aug 2022

 

Does that look like  case of "vaccinated vs unvccinated"?

I see now, with the charts side by side, that i didn't crop them perfectly. If you need to do that, go for it. I'm done here.

Edited November 6, 2022 by WestCanMan

[eyeball]

5 hours ago, Goddess said:

Pfizer touted its jabs as 95% efficacious, that's how they got the EUA and got governments to sign off on liability.  Once the data was released, it was clear that efficacy was nothing near 95%. 

It certainly had high marks against the first version of the virus. Unfortunately it's evolution got ahead of us. It certainly didn't help that so many people helped pave so much of the way for it's evolution while getting in the way of efforts to hinder it.

I noted very early on that COVID's favourite vector was stupidity and that's still the case today.

[WestCanMan]

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

It certainly had high marks against the first version of the virus.

No, it did not. Not at all.

The very earliest large-scale, real-world data set to ever come back about the vaccines was from Israel, because they have a relatively small population and were able to get everyone juiced a lot faster than the rest of the world did, and they said that that 50% of the people in their ICUs were double-jabbed. 

We went from "The vaccines will prevent infection" to "knock, knock, knockin' on heaven's door" faster than you could say "2 doses plus the 14-day waiting period". 

[WestCanMan]

I took the liberty of downloading infobase Canada's disinformation/propaganda, which I cited above, here. 

It's from: https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/cases-following-vaccination.html

This is from a reporting period where 29.85% of our covid deaths were among the quadruple-vaxed, and their screed says that 4xers only account for 4.5% of covid deaths in Canada. They didn't mention that was "since the beginning of time, and there were only 4xers around for the last 5 months".

See the bottom line, below. 

Quote

Outcomes of confirmed COVID-19 cases reported to PHAC by vaccination status, as of September 25, 2022

Status	Cases	Hospitalizations	Deaths
Unvaccinated	40.8%	47.6%	47.6%
Primary series completed	32.3%	19.9%	16.8%
Primary series completed and 1 additional dose	18.7%	22.2%	23.0%
Primary series completed and 2 or more additional doses	2.0%	2.8%	4.5%

Higher up on the page it says:

Quote

Since the start of the vaccination campaign on December 14, 2020, PHAC received case-level vaccine history data ....

but none of the mouth-breathing vax-Nazis here have a long enough attention span to remember to link the two things together.

An HF poster actually took a screenshot of that and posted here, thinking that it was a gotcha moment, when it was just proof of Health Canada's sickening disinformation campaign. 

The screenshot they posted is here:

A screenshot I took myself, containing the pertinent part about "since Dec 14 2020" is attached as well.

Yeah, it seems like a lot of trouble to go to over 1 line on a website, but disinformation from our gov't, and propagated by posters here, is a big deal.

 

[Goddess]

4 hours ago, eyeball said:

I noted very early on that COVID's favourite vector was stupidity and that's still the case today.

Its favourite vector is obesity.  Always has been and that is still the case today.

78% of people hospitalized for covid are obese.

Obese patients are 60% more likely to die.

[WestCanMan]

9 hours ago, Goddess said:

But governments had already signed binding contracts with Big Pharma and given them full immunity from liabilities and were forcing everyone to jab repeatedly or lose their jobs.

I think at this point, institutions and authorities know.  But to admit they were wrong to put blind faith in Big Pharma and coerce jabs and lockdowns, restrictions and mandates would result in mega lawsuits. and loss of careers.  It's far easier to continue the bamboozle on populations who have already been cowed into compliance with unprecedented overreach by a constant barrage of fear porn.  The average person is still too afraid to demand any kind of inquiry.

Your whole post was important, but this part here just describes North America to a tee right now.

The media is completely ignoring what's going on with all the vaxed deaths, and people are still defending the vax like it's their firstborn. 

[Goddess]

18 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

This is from a reporting period where 29.85% of our covid deaths were among the quadruple-vaxed, and their screed says that 4xers only account for 4.5% of covid deaths in Canada. They didn't mention that was "since the beginning of time, and there were only 4xers around for the last 5 months".

I'm finding this is a common way of hiding what's happening.

Someone tried to post studies on my thread to prove that unvaxxed are dying in vastly larger numbers, and didn't really read them.  Pfizer funded studies play fast and loose with the numbers.  Although 2 of the studies did caveat that the results of the study weren't reflected in real life (they said it more eloquently than me, but that was the gist.)  One of the studies had Neil Ferguson - a UK guy who "predicts" how many deaths from certain illnesses that go around.  He hasn't been right once, but the world used HIM to predict covid deaths and VOILA, he is the father of the lockdown in the West.

Ironically, he was fired in disgrace for visiting his mistress for sexy time during the lockdown he recommended implementing.

But apparently, he's still contributing to "studies."

Well done on the research. I know how hard it is to find out the true picture when they make it so difficult.  England is actually a bit easier.  But ya, they try to slip things in, like including men in the data to prove that menstrual irregularities are "rare."

[WestCanMan]

6 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Its favourite vector is obesity.  Always has been and that is still the case today.

78% of people hospitalized for covid are obese.

Obese patients are 60% more likely to die.

If the first vector really was stupidity I'd miss some people for about 0.1 seconds, then I'd move on. And I definitely wouldn't be hoping for a cure. 

Probably the most worrisome change would be that the US and Canada would be down to a 1-party system until we found someone to fill the 100% gaps in the LPOC, NDP, Democrats, and OMG the Green Party would be so dead that the dinosaurs would feel sorry for them. 

 

[WestCanMan]

14 minutes ago, Goddess said:

But ya, they try to slip things in, like including men in the data to prove that menstrual irregularities are "rare."

2022 just called, they want you to know that men can menstruate now goddammit!!!!! Didn't you get the memo?

Seriously though, it's unbelievable how insane people will go to defend a woman's right to abort a healthy 9-month-old unborn baby, but when millions of women are forced to take a vaccine that might be causing harm to their reproductive systems it's no big deal?

Have any major studies even been done to find out what is happening to women's menstrual cycles? Is there any long-term damage being done?

Is there damage being done to the ovaries of small girls who don't have a period yet? 

Meh. It's probably worth it to force the vax on everyone though, right? What's the worst that can happen.

Edited November 7, 2022 by WestCanMan

[Goddess]

3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Have any major studies even been done to find out what is happening to women's menstrual cycles? Is there any long-term damage being done?

Is there damage being done to the ovaries of small girls who don't have a period yet? 

I've read that there are studies being done now.

The experiment isn't over yet, so we won't know long-term for many years down the road.

What we DO know now, is that the spike protein does not stay in the arm, as the CDC told everyone it did.  It travels throughout the body, settling in major organs, and especially in the heart, lungs, ovaries and testes.  We also know that the body keeps producing spike protein, one study showed spike in major organs was still being produced 15 months post-jab.  There is no mechanism in the jabs to turn off production of the toxic spike.

We also know, in spite of the study that tried to gaslight women into thinking it was all in their heads and included men in it to hide the data, that the jabs ARE affecting menstrual cycles.  Some women are reporting heavy, clotting bleeding for up to a year after the jabs. 

I'm not a scientist, but I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that spike protein collecting in the ovaries and testes, is not going to bode well for future fertility.

Children should have been left out of this mass experiment, IMO.  They have zero risk of covid and no benefit from getting jabbed repeatedly.

[WestCanMan]

3 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Children should have been left out of this mass experiment, IMO.  They have zero risk of covid and no benefit from getting jabbed repeatedly.

I actually get really mad if I think about it too much. It seems like "Err on the side of stupidity/danger" is our mantra now, just like when The WHO decided to say "This coronavirus probably isn't all that contagious. Just let people from Wuhan fly into all the major cities of the world unimpeded."

[Goddess]

12 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

It seems like "Err on the side of stupidity/danger" is our mantra now

We threw all known science and scientific ethics out the window for this giant experiment.

I don't know how it happened.  I just know it did.