Trucker's Convoy

[Goddess]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

The vast VAST majority of medical experts, especially immunologists around the world do indeed take the view that the unvaccinated are by far the greater threat.

Except we're not following "the experts".

The real experts are the ones who actually do science, data, and statistics.  The real experts are the ones on the frontlines working with covid and seeing in real-time what's happening.

The "experts" you follow are nothing but public health frauds with made up credentials from nonsense factories.

These alleged epidemiologists and modelers and academics are a bunch of cloistered frauds pushing hocus pocus. And they have learned nothing. They got it wrong in March of 2020. And they were still getting it wrong 2 years later.

It’s all woo-woo and fear mongering.  Their track records stink.  Their models did not just fail, they were so bad they determined nothing and could not even replicate their own results.

They rode in on big white woo-woo horses, flashing their credentials and made a lot of bold claims.  They had no idea they were in the big leagues now.  They had never been outside. They trained for 15 years in patty cake training to get ready for the gold medal round in Olympic boxing.

Total misses on swine flu and zika and dengue and ebola - all largely ignored.

They had no idea that they were embarrassingly bad at this.  Suddenly they were in the big leagues and got knocked out in the first round in front of everyone because they did not know any better.  All their predictions were wrong, their recommendations false and ill advised. It was just jumping around and tossing out jargon and mathiness like it implied knowing how to fight a disease.

It quickly became obvious that this was not as complex or as obscure as the credentialed nitwits were making it out to be. It was just jargon and authority being used to intimidate and to impress those unfamiliar with what science is supposed to look like (most of the public).

But, if you knew biology, drug or drug trial design, statistics, data handling, and inferential and deductive reasoning, you could catch all the propaganda.  People have came from all over - from finance and academia and physics and chemistry and the life sciences. Actuaries are currently running roughshod over PhD’s in epidemiology. People who build HFT algorithms have looked at SAGE models and can't stop laughing.

The “experts” have been reared on woo-woo. They had never been in a real ring with real techniques and real people who came from spaces where you had to be right, not tenured and where nobody cares about your credentials or your shiny job title or kowtowed to get grant moolah to run your study and have a career. These are the one who care about whether you can impose order on data, make meaningful predictions, and support claims in open debate.

So they did what all wizards of woo-woo do: once they saw they were outmatched, they didn't try to overcome their opposition in the actual arena, but moved to bar others from it, to intimidate with credentials, dismiss through ad hominem and appeal to authority, and to prevent speech and publication. Go against the teachings of the great woo-woo masters and no more grant money or tenure for you.  

They are a group claiming genius validated by credentials that they bestowed on themselves.

If they were really that good, they'd step into the ring, bring ideas and data and process it out in the open. Let’s see what hypotheses are actually validated.

In 2019, I lwas not aware of what a near total sham public health is.  Never seen them step into the octagon.   Mid 2020, it was so obvious that no one with real data, statistics, or even alayman's understanding of the science could miss what was going on.

Michael Levitt basically taught the "experts" how to model epidemics. It took him a couple of months to nail models that vastly outperformed any the "experts" trotted out.

 

The public health “experts” could not even figure out that the signal was seasonal and were embarrassing themselves claiming Peru as a great example of lockdowns working, right before it fell into the worst covid spike in the world a few minutes later.

The “experts” have had a REALLY bad 2 years. Their credentials and lazy appeals to authority did not stand up to the arena. And they stopped talking to us at all and adopted propaganda cliches like “denier”, "anti-vaxxer" and “the science is settled.”

These are weasel words of defeated woo-woo.

The world is full of people who are very good at things. Good at seeing patterns, good at handling data, good at assessing evidence and reaching conclusions.  If you don’t know the answer, the best step is to show the problem to lots of people and someone in some far flung field is sure to say, “Oh, we have a problem like that in our field too. Here’s how we solve it.”

This is the path for seeking actual answers.  “Open data and inquiry” with engagement, not disrespect and name-calling is how you do science.

Again, as Lt. Col. David Redman said, this is why the world's pandemic plan called for interdisciplinary experts.

It's time to drop the woo woo and learn what works for real.

Edited August 26, 2022 by Goddess

[Zeitgeist]

7 hours ago, eyeball said:

You listed a bunch of hooey.

The vast VAST majority of medical experts, especially immunologists around the world do indeed take the view that the unvaccinated are by far the greater threat.

Imagine what all you politically motivated anti vaxxers would be saying if the government was caving to PETA and other animal rights activists and letting people bring unvaccinated livestock into Canada on the grounds that not being allowed to would violate their rights and freedoms.

But livestock don’t vote and aren’t citizens.  False equivalence.  Or do you place animals above humans like Cougar?  I would agree that humans are being treated in Canada increasingly like livestock and euthanized as when they’re no longer economically viable.

[WestCanMan]

9 hours ago, eyeball said:

You listed a bunch of hooey.

The vast VAST majority of medical experts, especially immunologists around the world do indeed take the view that the unvaccinated are by far the greater threat.

Imagine what all you politically motivated anti vaxxers would be saying if the government was caving to PETA and other animal rights activists and letting people bring unvaccinated livestock into Canada on the grounds that not being allowed to would violate their rights and freedoms.

FYI anyone who even uses the words COVID and vaccine together, in order to suggest that what Pfizer currently sells qualifies as a vaccine, is an idiot. Plain and simple. 

Almost 90% of the people who die from covid in Canada are either dbl-, triple- or quadruple-vaxed. 

If people were dying of polio after 4 vaccines within 1.5 years no one would say "polio vaccine". 

[DogOnPorch]

Again, I'd hazard that the release of the virus was to create just enough panic that one went and got the "vaccine"...the real message...so to speak. No questions asked.

If the "vaccine" does have a sinister purpose beyond what it was supposed to do (but, conspicuously didn't do)....well...most of us are thoroughly f**ked...aren't we?

 

[Goddess]

14 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

FYI anyone who even uses the words COVID and vaccine together, in order to suggest that what Pfizer currently sells qualifies as a vaccine, is an idiot. Plain and simple. 

Almost 90% of the people who die from covid in Canada are either dbl-, triple- or quadruple-vaxed. 

If people were dying of polio after 4 vaccines within 1.5 years no one would say "polio vaccine". 

It's clearly not a vaccine.  It's a therapeutic only.

That's why they had to change the definition of "vaccine".

It doesn't prevent anything.

Demanding everyone get more and more and more shots or be barred from pursuing life (work, school, travel, normal activities) is starting to look really......sinister.

[DogOnPorch]

4 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Demanding everyone get more and more and more shots or be barred from pursuing life (work, school, travel, normal activities) is starting to look really......sinister.

 

I only needed one variola scratch. Apparently even after decades it would produce some immune response.

The odd thing I heard was about nicotine having an enzyme (or something like that) which attaches to the added spike rendering covid inert.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, DogOnPorch said:

The odd thing I heard was about nicotine having an enzyme (or something like that) which attaches to the added spike rendering covid inert.

Wouldn't that be ironic if there was a flu that was going into people's lungs and killing everyone but the smokers? lol

I was worried for my sister when covid came out because she's been smoking since she was about 16, so a bit over 40 years. 

I don't know if she even got covid. If she did I never heard about it. 

[Goddess]

2 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

The odd thing I heard was about nicotine having an enzyme (or something like that) which attaches to the added spike rendering covid inert.

There are, apparently, traces of a venomous snake DNA in the covid virus.  I think it's called the Krait (snake).

Interestingly, when you suck venom out of a snakebite, you can lose your sense of taste and smell for months afterward.  Just like many who contracted covid reported.

Snake anti-venom has nicotine in it, which binds with the receptors in venom and renders it inert.

It does kind of explain why smokers are not dying in droves from covid, as was predicted in the beginning.  There are some studies that show, yes - nicotine binds to the S protein in the virus and prevents it from binding to other cells.

Edit, before the nitpickers chime in:  **not an endorsement to take up smoking.  Just interesting information. **

Edited August 26, 2022 by Goddess

[DogOnPorch]

2 minutes ago, Goddess said:

There are, apparently, traces of a venomous snake DNA in the covid virus.  I think it's called the Krait (snake).

Interestingly, when you suck venom out of a snakebite, you can lose your sense of taste and smell for months afterward.  Just like many who contracted covid reported.

Snake anti-venom has nicotine in it, which binds with the receptors in venom and renders it inert.

It does kind of explain why smokers are not dying in droves from covid, as was predicted in the beginning.  There are some studies that show, yes - nicotine binds to the S protein in the virus and prevents it from binding to other cells.

 

Ah, cool. Snake venom....hmmmmmmm.

Why has my trust indicator dropped several more basis points?

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[Goddess]

1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Ah, cool. Snake venom....hmmmmmmm.

Why has my trust indicator dropped several more basis points?

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Remember when covid first appeared and they were saying it possibly came from a snake, a bat or a pangolin?  Then they settled on the bat.  But in view of the GoF research going on there, my thoughts are that it very well could be a combination of dangerous DNA.  

[WestCanMan]

1 minute ago, Goddess said:

 combination of dangerous DNA.  

Mad scientist! LOVE IT!!!!

[WestCanMan]

Normally I'd be mad that the MSM hasn't talked about the low incidence of covid in smokers, but I can see how they'd be hesitant to put out any info that could be construed as being pro-smoking. 

[DogOnPorch]

1 minute ago, Goddess said:

Remember when covid first appeared and they were saying it possibly came from a snake, a bat or a pangolin?  Then they settled on the bat.  But in view of the GoF research going on there, my thoughts are that it very well could be a combination of dangerous DNA.  

 

Throughout history there have been human monsters who have used mass killing to gain power. Our own incredulity is getting in the way of us all seeing that it is likely happening again.

[dialamah]

22 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Throughout history there have been human monsters who have used mass killing to gain power. Our own incredulity is getting in the way of us all seeing that it is likely happening again.

Not a very effective mass killer once the first wave blew through. The naturally developed Spanish flu was more effective.  Not to mention, the lockdowns and social distancing and mask use that was recommended/imposed (depending on what part of the world you were in) by the people in power to slow the spread and reduce deaths.

Epic fail on the part of this killer cabal that's being imagined.

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, dialamah said:

Not a very effective mass killer once the first wave blew through. The naturally developed Spanish flu was more effective.  Not to mention, the lockdowns and social distancing and mask use that was recommended/imposed (depending on what part of the world you were in) by the people in power to slow the spread and reduce deaths.

Epic fail on the part of this killer cabal that's being imagined.

 

In my scenario, it will be the 'vaccine' that kills. Give it some time to work.

[Goddess]

19 minutes ago, dialamah said:

Not a very effective mass killer once the first wave blew through. The naturally developed Spanish flu was more effective.  Not to mention, the lockdowns and social distancing and mask use that was recommended/imposed (depending on what part of the world you were in) by the people in power to slow the spread and reduce deaths.

Epic fail on the part of this killer cabal that's being imagined.

Actually, it would be pretty stupid to make it kill millions or billions in a short time span.

Much better to drag out the deaths over several years.  It would take a while for people to catch on.

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Not to mention, the lockdowns and social distancing and mask use that was recommended/imposed (depending on what part of the world you were in) by the people in power to slow the spread and reduce deaths.

Lockdowns increased deaths.

Social distancing and masks increased loneliness and isolation, leading to deaths.

Mandates for work and travel lead to economic impoverishment, increasing deaths.

None of these had any discernable impact on the spread.

[dialamah]

1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

In my scenario, it will be the 'vaccine' that kills. Give it some time to work.

LMAO.

Usually power hungry dictators want more people to control, not less.  Not to mention, more developed nations have a higher uptake of the vaccine; why would this supposed cabal want to decimate the richest countries.  And how did all the countries in the world manage to agree on this plan with no dissenters?  In particular, why did Trump go along, that bastion of perfection, go along with it?

Previously, the claim here was that Trudeau/Provincial governments would never lift mask mandates/lockdowns because "power and control".  We see how that turned out.  Now the same people have moved on to "mass worldwide killing" for power and control.  The conspiracies only get more ridiculous as time goes on.

[DogOnPorch]

3 minutes ago, dialamah said:

LMAO.

Usually power hungry dictators want more people to control, not less.  Not to mention, more developed nations have a higher uptake of the vaccine; why would this supposed cabal want to decimate the richest countries.  And how did all the countries in the world manage to agree on this plan with no dissenters?  In particular, why did Trump go along, that bastion of perfection, go along with it?

Previously, the claim here was that Trudeau/Provincial governments would never lift mask mandates/lockdowns because "power and control".  We see how that turned out.  Now the same people have moved on to "mass worldwide killing" for power and control.  The conspiracies only get more ridiculous as time goes on.

 

They (WEF et al) have openly stated that they'd like to get the population back to about 1 billion. That you think that you're included in that number is amusing to me. But you complied...surely you'll be allowed on their mega yacht.

Edited August 26, 2022 by DogOnPorch

[Yzermandius19]

7 minutes ago, dialamah said:

LMAO.

Usually power hungry dictators want more people to control, not less.  Not to mention, more developed nations have a higher uptake of the vaccine; why would this supposed cabal want to decimate the richest countries.  And how did all the countries in the world manage to agree on this plan with no dissenters?  In particular, why did Trump go along, that bastion of perfection, go along with it?

Previously, the claim here was that Trudeau/Provincial governments would never lift mask mandates/lockdowns because "power and control".  We see how that turned out.  Now the same people have moved on to "mass worldwide killing" for power and control.  The conspiracies only get more ridiculous as time goes on.

"When there's a person, there's a problem. When there's no person, there's no problem"

- Josef Stalin

power hungry dictators mass murder people for a reason

they don't maximize population, they minimize it

Stalin knows

Edited August 26, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[DogOnPorch]

Generally, when someone says they want you dead and gone...you should believe them.

[Goddess]

1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said:

Generally, when someone says they want you dead and gone...you should believe them.

In the meantime, it's pretty easy (apparently) to convince the masses that heart attacks in children and young people is "normal" and we just ever noticed it before.

It's easy (apparently) to convince them that a 40% increase in deaths and disabilities, is best ignored.

You don't even have to show them "the science".  Just scare them into complying.  Punish those who don't, as a warning to any who start to catch on......

We're at jab #5 now. In a year and half.  

Did anyone other than the "conspiracy theorists" think that would happen?

[Goddess]

15 minutes ago, dialamah said:

Previously, the claim here was that Trudeau/Provincial governments would never lift mask mandates/lockdowns because "power and control".

They're threatening to bring it all back this fall.  Did you miss that?

They were never "lifted".  It was just a bit of a reprieve.  They even said so.

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, Goddess said:

In the meantime, it's pretty easy (apparently) to convince the masses that heart attacks in children and young people is "normal" and we just ever noticed it before.

It's easy (apparently) to convince them that a 40% increase in deaths and disabilities, is best ignored.

You don't even have to show them "the science".  Just scare them into complying.  Punish those who don't, as a warning to any who start to catch on......

We're at jab #5 now. In a year and half.  

Did anyone other than the "conspiracy theorists" think that would happen?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asch_conformity_experiments

They've long ago did studies on compliance...the human animal is quite predictable.

[DogOnPorch]

2 minutes ago, Goddess said:

They're threatening to bring it all back this fall.  Did you miss that?

They were never "lifted".  It was just a bit of a reprieve.  They even said so.

 

They're just itching to bring it all back. They have a goal...and oddly it has little to do with the actual virus.

[Goddess]

19 minutes ago, dialamah said:

why would this supposed cabal want to decimate the richest countries. 

Errrrmmmm.....to steal their wealth?

We just experienced the biggest wealth transfer in history.

We all just got poorer by the exact same trillions of dollars that they got richer.

Wakey, wakey.