Flint Posted December 14, 2017 Report Share Posted December 14, 2017 (edited) I don't believe for one moment that the legalization of this drug will benefit my country in any way, shape, or form to create a more informed and aware populace of who we are and final end. Edited December 14, 2017 by Flint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted December 14, 2017 Report Share Posted December 14, 2017 8 hours ago, Flint said: I don't believe for one moment that the legalization of this drug will benefit my country in any way, shape, or form to create a more informed and aware populace of who we are and final end. Right then. Now don't bogart that joint, my friend. Pass it over to me. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 With the government going full nanny state with the distribution, it certainly won't eliminate a black market. And with the government trying to keep its monopoly, more people will see charges. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 The steep prices the government is proposing for its dope is bad enough but it's moral shakedown should be what galls the most. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 The dopers whined about legalization for decades, now they are whining about the prices ? Too funny.... Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 16 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: The dopers whined about legalization for decades, now they are whining about the prices ? Too funny.... Decriminalization is probably the best course. The price is important because without a competitive price, the black market won't go away. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 What a lying piece of excrement JT is. https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/trudeau-says-cannabis-will-become-legal-next-summer-not-july-1-1.3728628] Quote The Canadian Press Published Tuesday, December 19, 2017 6:58PM EST MONTREAL -- Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says "next summer," and not July 1, is the date cannabis will become legal across the country. Excerpts of an interview Trudeau gave the TVA network in Quebec were broadcast Tuesday, with the full interview to be shown Wednesday night. Trudeau shook his head when interviewer Pierre Bruneau asked him why he was so obsessed with July 1 as the date for the cannabis legislation to become law. Oh so he didn't have any control over the announcements made by his government saying that it would be legalized by July 1? Who on earth buys that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jariax Posted January 5, 2018 Report Share Posted January 5, 2018 On 12/14/2017 at 1:07 AM, Flint said: I don't believe for one moment that the legalization of this drug will benefit my country in any way, shape, or form to create a more informed and aware populace of who we are and final end. If that's what we're using to decide what should be legal, then it follows that we should also ban alcohol, junk food and video games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jariax Posted January 5, 2018 Report Share Posted January 5, 2018 On 12/18/2017 at 3:53 PM, Boges said: Decriminalization is probably the best course. The price is important because without a competitive price, the black market won't go away. Disagree. The government needs to charge enough to cover: - profits for the provincial government - profits for the federal government - profits for the producers, and their costs covered. - generous salaries and benefits to all government employees involved in the sale and distribution. - extra money to pay for drug rehab programs etc, to put a good spin on things, So, based on that, they'll need to have a high price, which they can maintain by ensuring some fentanyl slips into the black market supply, so that people will feel more comfortable going to the MCBO instead of the local drug dealer. It worked for alcohol. You could get illegal moonshine for $5 a bottle, but do we know anyone who does that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted January 5, 2018 Report Share Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Jariax said: So, based on that, they'll need to have a high price, which they can maintain by ensuring some fentanyl slips into the black market supply, so that people will feel more comfortable going to the MCBO instead of the local drug dealer. It worked for alcohol. You could get illegal moonshine for $5 a bottle, but do we know anyone who does that? It only works with Alcohol because the upfront investment in making good Alcohol means a black market isn't feasible. People do make Moonshine, but it's difficult to get warehouses to age bourbon or scotch via the black market. People do make beer and wine on their own but selling cases of beer is a lot more difficult than selling an ounce of cannabis. Cannabis can be produced without such an upfront investment. And people are used to buying black market weed. In Ontario they'll start with 40 outlets. You think people will travel and lineup to buy legal weed or just use the distribution channels they always have. Edited January 5, 2018 by Boges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 On 12/18/2017 at 3:53 PM, Boges said: Decriminalization is probably the best course. The price is important because without a competitive price, the black market won't go away. I don't think it will really go away. It will be reduced no doubt. And when legal, having the ability to grow your own can reduce that price even more. And with being able to grow your own, people might actually learn a good skill about gardening that can transfer to other items. Quote Google : Webster Griffin Tarpley, Gerald Celente, Max Keiser ohm on soundcloud.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
?Impact Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 3 hours ago, GostHacked said: And when legal, having the ability to grow your own can reduce that price even more. I am wondering what will happen there, I have heard stories that some provinces will not allow home grown and other will limit the number of plants. If I grow my own, can I sell it or give it away? Can a farmer open a weed stall at the local market? I don't think there are black and white answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 In the beginning laws will be much more restrictive. The number of plants, or the ability to share them with others will be tightly controlled. There is still concern about edibles and concentrates, and hash. In time things will ease up some more, once sphincters have relaxed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 This has turned in to a cluster fuck, the minute trudeau dumped it all on the provinces. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
?Impact Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, PIK said: This has turned in to a cluster fuck, the minute trudeau dumped it all on the provinces. Are you suggesting that we move away from a confederation and become a top down hierarchy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 6 hours ago, PIK said: This has turned in to a cluster fuck, the minute trudeau dumped it all on the provinces. Policies regarding marijuana have been a cluster-fuck for almost a 100 years now. That we would choose to legalize such a deeply politicized and demonized thing in a day and age where fear and loathing highlight virtually everything we do is almost hilarious. The moral panic is on par with people in a burning theatre. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 On 2/10/2018 at 3:42 PM, ?Impact said: I am wondering what will happen there, I have heard stories that some provinces will not allow home grown and other will limit the number of plants. If I grow my own, can I sell it or give it away? Can a farmer open a weed stall at the local market? I don't think there are black and white answers. I believe the Ontario regulations will be that you can grow for personal use. Meaning you would not be able to sell anyways. But then I would treat it like any other thing people can grow in a garden themselves so you could 'sell' it. I would want to grow my own as it would save a lot of money overall. Quote Google : Webster Griffin Tarpley, Gerald Celente, Max Keiser ohm on soundcloud.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 23 hours ago, eyeball said: The moral panic is on par with people in a burning theatre. Maybe that will change once they smoke some of that legal wacko tobacco. Or as you hippies like to say, "Mellow out, man." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: Or as you hippies like to say, "Mellow out, man." "Stop harshing my mellow." 1 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 10 minutes ago, Goddess said: "Stop harshing my mellow." 1 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 (I had one of those steering wheels on my '72 Gran Torino ) Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 The senate has pretty well shut her down. It won't happen any time soon. Great move by the senate. So I guess that was supposed to be the one promise he would not break and it is going to get broke.lol Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 The Hell's Angles will be happy to hear that. They're probably rewarding the Liberals with a campaign cheque as we speak. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 Uh...it was being held up in the Senate by the conservatives, but it's still expected to pass this summer. You guys are getting your news from Facebook again. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 650.000G'S For the new logo for the cannabis store, Fords company could have done it for a lot less. lol Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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