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1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

...like cartoons....naturally earning a swift beheading...not so vague !

Also postulating about a change to the blasphemy law. If not vague, fairly wide ranging. 

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20 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Removing?  Explain?

2. & 3. Off topic and needs more explanation

4. Needs more explanation.

1.  Self explanatory, I would have thought.   Bottom line is the money wasted on "refugees" (some ARE legitimate, I don't challenge that, but many are economic refugees - wrong reason to let them in here) could help at least 10x as many families displaced into camps and allow them to return to their homes after the issues that displaced them are resolved.

2 & 3:  you asked for examples, I provided.  Not intended to be on topic, just replying.

4.   Again, I would have thought that was sufficiently self-explanatory.  Moving sharply left always results in failure, some immediate (Venezuela, Mao's China) but others taking a long time to crash (Cuba, USSR) as there is some store of resources (Russian in case of these examples) to pay for the stupidity of socialism before bankruptcy rears its head.  Best example is two terms of Obama cost the US more than all of the Presidents and wars that went before him...COMBINED.   We have been paying for Tur....TRUdeau #1 for decades past and will pay for the stupidity of the Liberal (and "Conservative") adminitrations leftward drift for many generations.  The T#2 and his sidekicks have Euro-mirrored us into a far steeper decline than we should ever have to experience.

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On ‎2017‎-‎10‎-‎02 at 3:43 PM, eyeball said:

You actually doubt there aren't tens of thousands of such comments made every single day?

There are dozens if not hundreds on this forum alone everyday. Like I said it is relentless.

It's not hard to see that this idiot will only bring on more hatred and controversy towards his kind. So, we are suppose to hear about this attack on a cop and say nothing? Why do these idiots immigrate to a western country and think that we must kiss his azz? Fit in or go back home. There is no need for an idiot like that guy to want to kill someone because he has problems fitting in. Try another country.

This bull chit that we must try and understand these people is what is going to get some of us killed one day. It is not up to me to try and make him feel at home. He should be doing that himself and learn to assimilate. Since we have allowed more Asians and East Indians into Canada they have decided that there is no need for them to assimilate. They can do just fine without old whiteys help.

What is relentless is this constant bleeding heart white liberal guilt bull that host Canadians need to learn and try and assimilate into their culture. This constant diversity is our strength crap is what is going to kill Canada in another few decades if Canadians don't soon stop this multicultural madness.

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On ‎2017‎-‎10‎-‎02 at 3:24 PM, Goddess said:

Baloney.  Some Muslims get harrassed occasionally by idiots, like everyone else in a minority but I highly doubt it's all day, every day, causing them to "snap".  

Liberals will always over react when  someone from a minority gets insulted. Try being a conservative white straight Christian male and see what happens to you every day. We are attacked and scorned every day for telling it like it is. It is a wonder that more conservatives don't start to snap these days. Just saying.

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On ‎2017‎-‎10‎-‎02 at 11:08 AM, eyeball said:

This problem of 'fitting in' is a two-way street given how many people didn't want this guy to fit in.  Canadians who actively do their best to make it 'bloody bad' for people shouldn't be surprised when they finally snap under the pressure of so much fear and loathing.

It must be relentless too, I wonder how many disparaging messages or things a day on average a Muslim reads, sees or hears and how much time their thoughts are preoccupied trying to process them?  I'm reminded of how John Kofi in the Green Mile compared the sensation of being loathed to bee stings.  How many bee stings a day...day after day after day...do people think they could handle before snapping?   

Who was not trying to not help this killer not fit in? Who is it?  Canadians should not b expected to make life easy for new immigrants or refugees. They have their own problems trying to survive and support a family. When one immigrates to another country it is up to them to try and make a go of it. If they can't well go somewhere else to live. Trying to kill someone is not the answer. If I decide to go live in Japan, then it is up to me to try and fit in and make a go of it. If I cannot then I should go somewhere else on earth and live.

I am fed up with all the liberal excuses that are put forward every day of trying to make it appear as though I am the problem. I am not.

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http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/edmonton-terror-suspect-had-been-deported-from-us-in-2011/ar-AAsSfZR

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A man facing attempted murder charges for allegedly ramming pedestrians with a car and stabbing a police officer in Edmonton last weekend was deported from the United States by immigration officials in 2011, The Associated Press reports.

Abdulahi Hasan Sharif, a 30-year-old Somali refugee, crossed legally into Canada in 2012 at a border crossing and obtained refugee status, according to Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale. There was no information on Sharif at the time that would have raised any red flags to authorities.

 

Deported from the US in 2011, came to Canada as a "refugee" and started spouting extremist views but none of that raised any red flags?

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1 minute ago, Goddess said:

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/edmonton-terror-suspect-had-been-deported-from-us-in-2011/ar-AAsSfZR

Deported from the US in 2011, came to Canada as a "refugee" and started spouting extremist views but none of that raised any red flags?

Not enough to do anything anyway.   I kind of get it because when we had that trouble with the WS neighbor, the cops told us all three times we talked to them there needed to be more than he said/she said, we needed witnesses or a long and consistent history from several people.  He was finally charged with death threats because three other people besides the target witnessed it.   I guess the degree of proof required is designed to discourage vendettas by cop, and to allow people to say outrageous things as part of their free expression.  

But still, in this case I agree that the system/authorities screwed up in not being more thorough and not being able to take his extremist talk more seriously.  

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26 minutes ago, Goddess said:

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/edmonton-terror-suspect-had-been-deported-from-us-in-2011/ar-AAsSfZR

Deported from the US in 2011, came to Canada as a "refugee" and started spouting extremist views but none of that raised any red flags?

Security fail.  Not showing for his US hearing, and the RCMP report should have been enough.  Both politics and practical matters should have caused this one to be flagged.

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2 hours ago, taxme said:

It's not hard to see that this idiot will only bring on more hatred and controversy towards his kind.

What is his kind? Muslims? What about the thousands of Muslims who condemned and spoke out against the attack? This one mentally unstable guy is your representative of Muslims, while the thousands of other Muslims who have condemned and spoken out against the attack are not?

Do you think the LV attacker will bring hatred and controversy towards 'his kind'?

 

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4 minutes ago, marcus said:

What is his kind? Muslims? What about the thousands of Muslims who condemned and spoke out against the attack? This one mentally unstable guy is your representative of Muslims, while the thousands of other Muslims who have condemned and spoken out against the attack are not?

Do you think the LV attacker will bring hatred and controversy towards 'his kind'?

 

The LV attacker already has.  Who loves the NRA?  And weren't they all Republicans anyway, so who cares, right?

I think Taxme's statement is intended to decry the tendency of the uninformed to blame all Muslims for the actions of a few.

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1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Security fail.  Not showing for his US hearing, and the RCMP report should have been enough.  Both politics and practical matters should have caused this one to be flagged.

He should have been immediately deported. In fact, because of the safe third party rule he should never have been accepted as a refugee in the first place. Certainly the moment he was identified as having radical views he should have been deported.

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6 hours ago, taxme said:

Liberals will always over react when  someone from a minority gets insulted. Try being a conservative white straight Christian male and see what happens to you every day. We are attacked and scorned every day for telling it like it is. It is a wonder that more conservatives don't start to snap these days. Just saying.

It is the new cool to be offended and make the white guy pay. White guilt is killing a great country. Just like trudeau said about the attack in edmonton, gotta get rid of the white people.

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2 hours ago, PIK said:

It is the new cool to be offended and make the white guy pay. White guilt is killing a great country. Just like trudeau said about the attack in edmonton, gotta get rid of the white people.

 

Trudeau has his own list of "deplorables", importing politics from Hillary Clinton.

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8 hours ago, bcsapper said:

The LV attacker already has.  Who loves the NRA?  And weren't they all Republicans anyway, so who cares, right?

I think Taxme's statement is intended to decry the tendency of the uninformed to blame all Muslims for the actions of a few.

Well we all should know by now that because of this LV moron all gun owners will most likely be labelled as nothing more than a bunch of gun toting wild west billy the kid cowboys just because of one fool.

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4 hours ago, PIK said:

It is the new cool to be offended and make the white guy pay. White guilt is killing a great country. Just like trudeau said about the attack in edmonton, gotta get rid of the white people.

And those liberals are doing a great job of trying to destroy this great WASP nation for a pile of multicultural hodge-podge. All trudeau thinks about is diversity. What a leader, eh? :rolleyes:

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8 hours ago, Argus said:

He should have been immediately deported. In fact, because of the safe third party rule he should never have been accepted as a refugee in the first place. Certainly the moment he was identified as having radical views he should have been deported.

Our politically correct politicians have become nothing more than a bunch of wimps and bleeding hearts. Both will destroy this country.

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9 hours ago, marcus said:

What is his kind? Muslims? What about the thousands of Muslims who condemned and spoke out against the attack? This one mentally unstable guy is your representative of Muslims, while the thousands of other Muslims who have condemned and spoken out against the attack are not?

Do you think the LV attacker will bring hatred and controversy towards 'his kind'?

 

We have enough of our own nut cases, we don't need to import more.

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On 10/4/2017 at 6:00 PM, taxme said:

Well we all should know by now that because of this LV moron all gun owners will most likely be labelled as nothing more than a bunch of gun toting wild west billy the kid cowboys just because of one fool.

I agree with that.

Do you see the same generalization will happen in regards to the Edmonton guy and Muslims?

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On 10/4/2017 at 6:14 PM, taxme said:

We have enough of our own nut cases, we don't need to import more.

We need to import people otherwise, our economy would be in trouble due to lack of workers.

Nutcases can come from all over and a few might slip through the cracks from time to time. I recently had to represent the spouse of a Canadian man who had sponsored a nutcase Irish woman.

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22 hours ago, marcus said:

We need to import people otherwise, our economy would be in trouble due to lack of workers.

Nutcases can come from all over and a few might slip through the cracks from time to time. I recently had to represent the spouse of a Canadian man who had sponsored a nutcase Irish woman.

Aw bull chit. Immigration is a big farce. Our economy has pretty much always been in trouble and still is even with all those new immigrants being allowed to immigrate here by the hundreds of thousands every year for decades now. Corporations, immigration multicultural groups and immigration lawyers want more immigrants because there appears to be money made from it for those mentioned above.  There are approx. 2 million unemployed Canadians and you have the nerve to tell me that Canada needs more immigrants? Wake up, fella. What Canada needs is less new immigrants and less thinking like how you think or believe.

There are enough new babies born in Canada every year to take up the slack from people who have died. In the last couple of decades Canada's population has risen by about 5000 and all we are told by "officials" every day is that Canada's economy is not so great.

So, why the need for more immigrants? Please explain that one to me? Over.

 

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On ‎2017‎-‎10‎-‎06 at 7:32 AM, marcus said:

I agree with that.

Do you see the same generalization will happen in regards to the Edmonton guy and Muslims?

What I see today is that we have a disastrous immigration policy. Our immigration policy of today appears to only want to flood Canada with more third world legal and illegal refugees and immigrants, and then promote multiculturalism and diversity to try and destroy our British and European culture and traditions and way of life and nothing more.

Muslims are a big threat because they like to have lots of kiddies because they know that they can write-off those kiddies on their taxes. The more kiddies the more money in their pockets. Muslims are not the stupid ones here, it is the Canadian taxpayer's who are the stupid ones because they won't say a word. The majority of Canadians will always show just how stunned they can be because they don't want to say anything that may offend some other culture, and this is what is going to do themselves in. But hey.  

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On ‎2017‎-‎10‎-‎01 at 7:13 PM, blackbird said:

He would have to be an idiot to not at least say it was a terrorist attack.  That's nothing new.   But do you think he'll every say it was an Islamic terrorist attack or a jihadist attack?  Never.

You're correct,he won't mention Islam as it relates to this attack.He will however, preach about "Islamophobia".

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Maybe one day we'll have an avowed atheist for a leader who isn't afraid to talk about the way fantastical thinking can help lead people astray. Of course that assumes that people inclined to think that way won't also be afraid to discuss it.   One day....maybe after a couple hundred thousand years of evolution. 

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