OftenWrong Posted September 30, 2017 Report Posted September 30, 2017 45 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: I did PM to ask a question, and didn't hear back so I'll ask here: If a poster has a history of making exaggerated claims, can one not bring that up respectfully ? I pointed out that a poster has claimed in the past that Ontario tried to implement Sharia law and was admonished for doing so. Can we not respond to false claims in this way ? Asking for myself. The forum rules are so simple. What part of "Do not attack the poster" do you not understand? 2
Michael Hardner Posted September 30, 2017 Report Posted September 30, 2017 I don't see that as attacking the poster, just bringing their past statements into view. Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 30, 2017 Report Posted September 30, 2017 43 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: The forum rules are so simple. What part of "Do not attack the poster" do you not understand? Agreed....play the ball...not the posting member, regardless of claims made. 1 Economics trumps Virtue.
OftenWrong Posted September 30, 2017 Report Posted September 30, 2017 15 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: I don't see that as attacking the poster, just bringing their past statements into view. Things are done for reasons.
Charles Anthony Posted September 30, 2017 Report Posted September 30, 2017 3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: If a poster has a history of making exaggerated claims, can one not bring that up respectfully ? No. Send the member a PM instead. The topic of the thread is not "The History of PosterX Making Exaggerated Claims" and there is no sub-forum for such. On 9/12/2017 at 8:51 PM, OftenWrong said: Understood boss. Find ways to get the point across without the childish part. Clarity trumps authority. You are right. It is a different kind of troll. We could add: "Please do not post comments to entice folks to post comments that are only meant to annoy other folks who happen to be in a different forum." to the rules but we all know better. The way I see things "Be polite and respect others." is clear enough. cross-trolling: (verb) undefined I aint saying you are culpable of such. Those who engaged in the bad comedy here know who they are and would do well to keep quiet. ---- Sorry for derailing your thread, Argus. Alas, we have unearthed "A different kind of troll" indeed but I doubt you were seeking that. Regardless, we still have the same old tools as before: delete, suspend or the ban hammer. Let us know what you want. We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >>
The_Squid Posted September 30, 2017 Report Posted September 30, 2017 @Charles Anthony There have been some silly "rulings" on this forum, but this might be the dumbest one yet! 1 hour ago, Charles Anthony said: 5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: If a poster has a history of making exaggerated claims, can one not bring that up respectfully ? No. Send the member a PM instead.
betsy Posted September 30, 2017 Report Posted September 30, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: I don't see that as attacking the poster, just bringing their past statements into view. What's past statements on past issues got to do with it? Let's do you as an example: you've lied in one of your replies to me - should I bring that up every time you post something? Deal with the message. Edited September 30, 2017 by betsy
Michael Hardner Posted October 1, 2017 Report Posted October 1, 2017 On 9/30/2017 at 12:33 PM, The_Squid said: @Charles Anthony There have been some silly "rulings" on this forum It's not silly if you are facing a choice between 'freedom of expression' or 'quality of poster' and you choose the former over the latter. If you want to come on here and lie about 9/11 conspiracies continuously, and be continuously shown as lacking healthy information, no one can point that out when you start a new thread about the dangers of bigfoot. So we have persistent liars given a 'safe space', and quality posters having an ever-increasing 'ignore' list. 1 Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
drummindiver Posted October 2, 2017 Report Posted October 2, 2017 21 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: So we have persistent liars given a 'safe space', and quality posters having an ever-increasing 'ignore' list. Self described quality poster with the self proclaimed largest ignore list of well, moronic posters. Delusions of grandeur much M H? 2
dialamah Posted October 2, 2017 Report Posted October 2, 2017 7 minutes ago, drummindiver said: Self described quality poster with the self proclaimed largest ignore list of well, moronic posters. Delusions of grandeur much M H? I concur with MH. I have put a bunch on my ignore list, too, because they seem completely unable to engage in any critical thinking. Mostly they are the "Don't trust the MSM" types, because they somehow think that being gullible and accepting completely shit stories because it's "not MSM" makes them smarter than anyone else. These people tend to choose emotional clickbait news stories to inform their world view, and disregard facts and evidence that contradict the basis for their feel-mad emotions. There are also those who are one-trick pony types, clearly trolls bent on simply getting a reaction. You can call it 'delusions of grandeur' all you want; I call it cutting out the noise.
drummindiver Posted October 2, 2017 Report Posted October 2, 2017 5 minutes ago, dialamah said: I concur with MH. I have put a bunch on my ignore list, too, because they seem completely unable to engage in any critical thinking. Mostly they are the "Don't trust the MSM" types, because they somehow think that being gullible and accepting completely shit stories because it's "not MSM" makes them smarter than anyone else. These people tend to choose emotional clickbait news stories to inform their world view, and disregard facts and evidence that contradict the basis for their feel-mad emotions. There are also those who are one-trick pony types, clearly trolls bent on simply getting a reaction. You can call it 'delusions of grandeur' all you want; I call it cutting out the noise. Fair enough. Which is the purpose of the other forum, isn't it? I call it circle jerk or echo chamber but cutting out noise works. I don't have an ignore list. If I did I certainly wouldn't be proud of stating how many people's opinions I would refuse to listen to while at the same time calling them names. I wonder how many ignore lists I am on lol. 2
Argus Posted October 2, 2017 Author Report Posted October 2, 2017 8 hours ago, drummindiver said: Fair enough. Which is the purpose of the other forum, isn't it? I call it circle jerk or echo chamber but cutting out noise works. I don't have an ignore list. The problem is not ignore lists. The problem is how many intelligent sane people come here, see the drek, shake their heads, and go away. 1 "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
drummindiver Posted October 3, 2017 Report Posted October 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Argus said: The problem is not ignore lists. The problem is how many intelligent sane people come here, see the drek, shake their heads, and go away. So, how to keep sane intelligent ppl here?
dialamah Posted October 3, 2017 Report Posted October 3, 2017 9 hours ago, drummindiver said: Which is the purpose of the other forum, isn't it? I call it circle jerk or echo chamber but cutting out noise works. The other forum has dissenting views, both right wing and left wing posters. It has a lot less name-calling, sneering and general rudeness. 1
DogOnPorch Posted October 3, 2017 Report Posted October 3, 2017 2 hours ago, dialamah said: The other forum has dissenting views, both right wing and left wing posters. It has a lot less name-calling, sneering and general rudeness. Let's see....idiot...goof...Islamophobe...to name a few from you. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
The_Squid Posted October 3, 2017 Report Posted October 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Let's see....idiot...goof...Islamophobe...to name a few from you. Can see why you only lurk in the shadows.... I dont think you'd last. The mods shit gold at that place and the trolls run scared.
DogOnPorch Posted October 3, 2017 Report Posted October 3, 2017 1 minute ago, The_Squid said: Can see why you only lurk in the shadows.... I dont think you'd last. The mods shit gold at that place and the trolls run scared. Oh dear...a threat. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
The_Squid Posted October 3, 2017 Report Posted October 3, 2017 I'm not a mod... just a prediction... trolls don't last there...
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 3, 2017 Report Posted October 3, 2017 1 hour ago, bcsapper said: It's MLW Lite... Agreed.....and it is hosted in the United States of 'Murica...Illinois to be exact. 2 Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted October 3, 2017 Report Posted October 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, The_Squid said: I'm not a mod... just a prediction... trolls don't last there... So you come here to troll...interesting behaviour. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
The_Squid Posted October 3, 2017 Report Posted October 3, 2017 Says the one-trick poster who obsesses over Muslims in every post.
DogOnPorch Posted October 3, 2017 Report Posted October 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, The_Squid said: Says the one-trick poster who obsesses over Muslims in every post. I accept your surrender. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
betsy Posted October 3, 2017 Report Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) 13 hours ago, Argus said: The problem is not ignore lists. The problem is how many intelligent sane people come here, see the drek, shake their heads, and go away. Well....I don't think so. Look at these posters who'd apparently left and formed another forum because of that, and yet here they are! They've slinked back! They couldn't keep away. With its warts and all - obviously they like it here! Let me ask you: how many newly recruited members are actively participating in your other forum that's peopled by so-called "quality," "intelligent, and "good"" posters? How many sign-ups (not counting the friends that's been recruited)? At least here, people are still signing up (even though they aren't participating).....even without those "intelligent" posters here. Their absence did squat! If MLF still gets sign-ups - obviously, something about this forum makes new members sign up. This forum holds some sort of allure........and the allure ain't the ones who'd left. Obviously. Edited October 3, 2017 by betsy
betsy Posted October 3, 2017 Report Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, The_Squid said: I'm not a mod... just a prediction... trolls don't last there... That site won't last long, either. Just a prediction. It's a no-brainer. How many times have you posted there today, Squid? When was the last time you posted over there? Yet here you are wasting your time posting here, instead of posting up a storm over there! Or....maybe you aren't giving any prediction at all. You're speaking from experience. That explains it. You got booted out for being a troll! Edited October 3, 2017 by betsy
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