Omni Posted January 24, 2017 Report Posted January 24, 2017 3 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Ask the last guy who promised "Hope and Change".....Trump is providing lots of the latter. The country will be fine....that's how it got to be the global superpower that it is. And very little of the former. And you got a pretty good boost toward your global position by using slaves to do the work while you reaped the profits.
Topaz Posted January 24, 2017 Report Posted January 24, 2017 .About the crowds numbers, the photo of the number many people by CNN, apparently it was taken soon after the gates open to the let the people in and there another photo of all of the area was filled in and none of their photos had the time on them but if u want to see their pictures and decide for yourself they are online.
DogOnPorch Posted January 24, 2017 Report Posted January 24, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Topaz said: .About the crowds numbers, the photo of the number many people by CNN, apparently it was taken soon after the gates open to the let the people in and there another photo of all of the area was filled in and none of their photos had the time on them but if u want to see their pictures and decide for yourself they are online. Here are the numbers I like... Edited January 24, 2017 by DogOnPorch Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
?Impact Posted January 24, 2017 Report Posted January 24, 2017 More people took public transit during the entire Inauguration day for Trump than did those who took public transit before 11am for Obama. Trump has bigger apples than Obama's grapes.
Topaz Posted January 25, 2017 Report Posted January 25, 2017 I can't believe the hatred that is going in the good ole USA.....its really sad, and what going to happen in their next election if Trump wins?
Smallc Posted January 25, 2017 Report Posted January 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Topaz said: .About the crowds numbers, the photo of the number many people by CNN, apparently it was taken soon after the gates open to the let the people in and there another photo of all of the area was filled in and none of their photos had the time on them but if u want to see their pictures and decide for yourself they are online. The photos were taken at the same time (1 hour before the speech) in both cases. Look up actual facts.
Smallc Posted January 25, 2017 Report Posted January 25, 2017 39 minutes ago, Topaz said: I can't believe the hatred that is going in the good ole USA.....its really sad, and what going to happen in their next election if Trump wins? I don't get how someone who hated Harper so much can support Trump.
eyeball Posted January 25, 2017 Report Posted January 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, Smallc said: I don't get how someone who hated Harper so much can support Trump. You see a lot of that in reverse around here too,. Folks who love pipelines, and can't stand immigrants, and cheer big tax and regulatory cuts to corporations maintain they can't stand Trump. Because he's a buffoon? Whatever. 1 A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
sharkman Posted January 25, 2017 Report Posted January 25, 2017 3 hours ago, Topaz said: .About the crowds numbers, the photo of the number many people by CNN, apparently it was taken soon after the gates open to the let the people in and there another photo of all of the area was filled in and none of their photos had the time on them but if u want to see their pictures and decide for yourself they are online. Don't worry about it. I can see the Trump administration is handling the MSM(and his political enemies) like the Pied Piper. They're going for the shiny bauble in one hand, and missing a lot of what he's signing with the other. Classic misdirection, and their hysterical outrage is damaging their own efforts. Plus his manipulation is accomplishing some other goals with regards to the media and crying wolf every day.
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 25, 2017 Report Posted January 25, 2017 Just now, sharkman said: Don't worry about it. I can see the Trump administration is handling the MSM(and his political enemies) like the Pied Piper. They're going for the shiny bauble in one hand, and missing a lot of what he's signing with the other. Classic misdirection, and their hysterical outrage is damaging their own efforts. Plus his manipulation is accomplishing some other goals with regards to the media and crying wolf every day. Very good observation...so true. Trump has the MSM back on its heels and wondering what to do about it. President Trump and his WH spokesman single out media enemies and publicly holds them accountable. The MSM is not used to being on the defensive. There is nothing special about liars with a journalism degree. Economics trumps Virtue.
Omni Posted January 25, 2017 Report Posted January 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Very good observation...so true. Trump has the MSM back on its heels and wondering what to do about it. President Trump and his WH spokesman single out media enemies and publicly holds them accountable. The MSM is not used to being on the defensive. There is nothing special about liars with a journalism degree. I don't see them being back on their heels at all. Rather they are having a field day with what seems to be an endless supply of material from Trump's/Spicers' mouths.
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 25, 2017 Report Posted January 25, 2017 Just now, Omni said: I don't see them being back on their heels at all. Rather they are having a field day with what seems to be an endless supply of material from Trump's/Spicers' mouths. Reagan did the same thing when he held his first press conferences...told the media rabble to sit down and shut-up...wait to be called on. No more screaming and shouting at the president during press conferences as was common for President Carter. Economics trumps Virtue.
sharkman Posted January 25, 2017 Report Posted January 25, 2017 13 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Very good observation...so true. Trump has the MSM back on its heels and wondering what to do about it. President Trump and his WH spokesman single out media enemies and publicly holds them accountable. The MSM is not used to being on the defensive. There is nothing special about liars with a journalism degree. The phrase, educated fool, comes to mind. It's going to be entertaining to watch the media sputter and shriek. They'll have a short half life for sure.
?Impact Posted January 25, 2017 Report Posted January 25, 2017 12 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Reagan did the same thing Trump is no Reagan. You could disagree with Reagan on a whole host of issues, but you couldn't help but like him. Only the first part applies to Trump.
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 25, 2017 Report Posted January 25, 2017 Just now, ?Impact said: Trump is no Reagan. You could disagree with Reagan on a whole host of issues, but you couldn't help but like him. Only the first part applies to Trump. Trump's fan base is growing....will never match Reagan's. Younger folk here have no experience with the Reagan presidency....it was not all peaches and cream, including the media. Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted January 25, 2017 Report Posted January 25, 2017 Speaking of new fans you gush like lDeepwater Horizon. Why didn't you vote for him again? 1 A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 25, 2017 Report Posted January 25, 2017 18 minutes ago, eyeball said: Speaking of new fans you gush like lDeepwater Horizon. I'm still an American...you're not. Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted January 25, 2017 Report Posted January 25, 2017 So why didn't you vote for him? I'm not making you feel unsafe by asking am I? A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 25, 2017 Report Posted January 25, 2017 Just now, eyeball said: So why didn't you vote for him? I'm not making you feel unsafe by asking am I? I've already stated my reason several times....look it up. Economics trumps Virtue.
dialamah Posted January 25, 2017 Report Posted January 25, 2017 11 hours ago, Argus said: You should be familiar with this tactic since you use it yourself frequently to excuse Islamic terrorism and barbaric cultural practices. FFS, Argus. Grow up. This topic isn't about Muslims, nor is it about attacking me.
OftenWrong Posted January 25, 2017 Report Posted January 25, 2017 11 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Few were keen on Hillary but Trump's lies are off the scale. They are way beyond the acceptable level of deceit that we expect from politicians. As PJ O'Rourke put it: Trump's lies are only white lies, so not that bad. I don't find it terribly interesting that Trump makes a few statements to get people's heads spinning around. What's interesting is the reaction, and the amount of energy wasted talking about it, while not talking about more esoteric matters involving policy.
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 25, 2017 Report Posted January 25, 2017 1 minute ago, OftenWrong said: ...I don't find it terribly interesting that Trump makes a few statements to get people's heads spinning around. What's interesting is the reaction, and the amount of energy wasted talking about it, while not talking about more esoteric matters involving policy. Yes...this is President Trump's strategy. Muhammad Ali called it "Rope - A- Dope". Economics trumps Virtue.
SpankyMcFarland Posted January 25, 2017 Report Posted January 25, 2017 9 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Ask the last guy who promised "Hope and Change".....Trump is providing lots of the latter. The country will be fine....that's how it got to be the global superpower that it is. It didn't get that way via chancers (I typed chancres originally which would do just as well) like Trump. Great industries and weak neighbours were key ingredients. Trump voters should get their passports and see what carnage really looks like out foreign. The US is still a great country to live in and has a lot to lose. Veteran Trump watchers warn us to expect more of the same: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/01/trump-biographers-presidency-legitimate-214655
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 25, 2017 Report Posted January 25, 2017 1 minute ago, SpankyMcFarland said: It didn't get that way via chancers (I typed chancres originally which would do just as well) like Trump. Great industries and weak neighbours were key ingredients. ...and ruthless presidents, just like Trump. The history is readily available for those who seek a balanced perspective. Economics trumps Virtue.
SpankyMcFarland Posted January 25, 2017 Report Posted January 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: Trump's lies are only white lies, so not that bad. I don't find it terribly interesting that Trump makes a few statements to get people's heads spinning around. What's interesting is the reaction, and the amount of energy wasted talking about it, while not talking about more esoteric matters involving policy. We are not talking about Big Brother here. Presidents must expect extreme and constant scrutiny from the hour they are elected. Their job matters. We can only judge by what we have seen so far which is disturbing to say the least. The man is still going on about the election. Unbelievable.
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