Russians accused of interfering in election to get Trump elected

[Omni]

2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

They could also refuse to vote for any candidates.   They could all move to Canada....or Fiji.    They could all commit mass suicide.

But none of these things are going to happen.

Why is it so difficult to accept the most likely outcome ?    Russian hacking would be far more acceptable than an EC abdication.

I couldn't care less about the most likely outcome. It's not me that will have to face trump as a "leader". Up here we just wait for the comedy to unfurl. And we certainly do tune into SNL. especially lately.

[Omni]

4 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Russian hacking or the EC has nothing to do with Canada.

How very adept of you to understand that.

[bush_cheney2004]

10 minutes ago, Omni said:

I couldn't care less about the most likely outcome. It's not me that will have to face trump as a "leader". Up here we just wait for the comedy to unfurl. And we certainly do tune into SNL. especially lately.

 

Since you have not mentioned the alleged Russian interference, then obviously that is your only goal. 

Your EC proposal has no merit as well.

[Omni]

2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Since you have not mentioned the alleged Russian interference, then obviously that is your only goal. 

Your EC proposal has no merit as well.

I have posted variously about the Russian biz, and we will see what the EC does Dec 19. I am quite aware of the potential they have to dump trump. Not sure what your "only goal" comment is about.

[DogOnPorch]

It's the ol' blame game: if I can make my opponent as dirty as I am, the playing field is again even.

If anybody was accepting foreign influence it was the DNC. Saudi...cough, Akbar...Arabia. If anybody was dishing-out fake news it was the Pro-Hillary news media so keen to call the election last year. If anybody was lying it was Hillary 'Under Sniper Fire' Clinton....her lips are moving.

[DogOnPorch]

5 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Since you have not mentioned the alleged Russian interference, then obviously that is your only goal. 

Your EC proposal has no merit as well.

 

You've got to wonder what the ultimate end-game to all this is from the Anarchist-left. If they do steal an election and crown a queen, I wonder what the plan after that is? Lock their doors and hide?

Edited December 15, 2016 by DogOnPorch

[bush_cheney2004]

47 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

You got to wonder what the ultimate end-game to all this is from the Anarchist-left. If they do steal an election and crown a queen, I wonder what the plan after that is? Lock their doors and hide?

 

I think it is just setting the baseline to undermine and delegitimize the inevitable Trump presidency as the losing "opposition".    But just like the campaign, if they push it too far (Russians, voting hacks, faithless voters, "deplorables", etc.), they risk the very same backlash that lost them the election in the first place.

Russian hacks only work as effective red meat if the old frameworks are in place....clearly they are not.   C-SPAN is beginning to program election strategy post mortems for Google, YouTube, Facebook, email, SMS, direct text, etc. and Russians/Assange are just part of the digital domain in which Team Trump handily outperformed Team Clinton.

 

 

[Topaz]

In todays world who knows what is truth or lies but I'm leaning more it wasn't Russia, more like someone within the US to help Clinton. Anyway, read the following and view your thoughts on the article.                                            http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-foreign-policy-and-the-electoral-college-vote-towards-a-december-19-surprise/5561928

[GostHacked]

12 hours ago, Argus said:

What I bet is if you had Derek's arsenal you, Topaz and Gosthacked would be in Washington investigating pizza parlors for child slavery rings.

What the hell is that supposed to mean?  The dialogue around here has reached a new low.

[TTM]

6 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Russian hacking would be far more acceptable than an EC abdication.

Russia fixing your election would be more acceptable then the Electors acting on their constitutional mandate.  Interesting viewpoint.

[Boges]

1 hour ago, Topaz said:

In todays world who knows what is truth or lies but I'm leaning more it wasn't Russia, more like someone within the US to help Clinton. Anyway, read the following and view your thoughts on the article.                                            http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-foreign-policy-and-the-electoral-college-vote-towards-a-december-19-surprise/5561928

That's some good Tin Foil hat reading right there. 

If the EC reverses the election results, get your popcorn ready because the US will descend into anarchy. I doubt Hilary would want to lead the country if she got put into power because the EC ignored the wishes of the electorate. 

[sharkman]

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Craig Murray, the former UK ambassador to Uzbekistan, who is a close associate of Assange, called the CIA claims “bulls**t”, adding: “They are absolutely making it up.”

“I know who leaked them,” Murray said. “I’ve met the person who leaked them, and they are certainly not Russian and it’s an insider. It’s a leak, not a hack; the two are different things.

 

 

From this link,  Assange has apparently said it's not the Russians.  What's that, you don't like the linky?  Okay, how about one from

USA today.  It's just desperate Dems, mounting a campaign to now try and influence the Electoral College.  

[?Impact]

13 minutes ago, sharkman said:

Assange has apparently said it's not the Russians.

Yes, Assange probably didn't get it from the Russians. What does that have to do with who carried out the hacking?

[DogOnPorch]

The FBI...no doubt (LOL)...still reading through 600,000 emails...should be finished by the time we hit Alpha Centauri.

[eyeball]

11 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

The EC is not going to stop Trump...because it can't.    The most it could do is just delay him.  

Alleged Russian interference won't stop him.  

Not even Trump haters in Canada can stop him.

I'm betting it'll be a bullet myself, probably an inside job.

That might delay the coming interregnum OTOH it might kick it into a higher gear.

[taxme]

12 hours ago, Omni said:

Hey it could very well happen that the EC will block trump. Then the trump losers will be boo hooing, but the US will be on a much better footing.

What the EC would be saying to the people who got their vote is that we don't care about your vote or democracy. It is all about getting Trump out. I have never seen anything like it. Losers still crying, and cannot accept their defeat. I don't think that those people that help put Trump in are going to be very happy.You want civil war you may just get a civil war..One can only hope that those EC's will stick with the game, and not try and change it. 

[sharkman]

2 hours ago, ?Impact said:

Yes, Assange probably didn't get it from the Russians. What does that have to do with who carried out the hacking?

It's in the link.  They know who the individual is who did the leaking, no hacking involved.

[Omni]

2 minutes ago, taxme said:

What the EC would be saying to the people who got their vote is that we don't care about your vote or democracy. It is all about getting Trump out. I have never seen anything like it. Losers still crying, and cannot accept their defeat. I don't think that those people that help put Trump in are going to be very happy.You want civil war you may just get a civil war..One can only hope that those EC's will stick with the game, and not try and change it. 

No, one can also hope the EC either votes in another Republican, or sends it to congress. and I am far from the only one who thinks that.

[taxme]

12 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Russian hacking or the EC has nothing to do with Canada.

Canadians watch way too much Canadian phony news TV so-called news channels like the CBC and CNN. They constantly attack Trump, and Canadians being Canadians will never check out the other side of the story or the facts. Most of them are lemmings. Fake Russian hacking is just what the phony media want Americans and Canadians to believe is the problem. It is just another fake false news story for fools who will eat it up. Yummy. 

[taxme]

44 minutes ago, Omni said:

No, one can also hope the EC either votes in another Republican, or sends it to congress. and I am far from the only one who thinks that.

I think that you dislike Trump, and would love to see that he does not become President, right? 

[bush_cheney2004]

4 minutes ago, taxme said:

Canadians watch way too much Canadian phony news TV so-called news channels like the CBC and CNN. They constantly attack Trump,

 

It is interesting that, according to Google Canada, the top overall searches and news stories by Canadians for 2016 were for Donald Trump.   We also know that Canadians participated in the U.S. election campaigns, particularly for Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders.   A Canadian illegal is charged with voter fraud in NY.

But the alleged Russian hackers are the bad guys ?

[Omni]

10 minutes ago, taxme said:

I think that you dislike Trump, and would love to see that he does not become President, right? 

I don't live in the US so in a way I don't care, but I'd be embarrassed if he were leader of my country.

[taxme]

1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

It is interesting that, according to Google Canada, the top overall searches and news stories by Canadians for 2016 were for Donald Trump.   We also know that Canadians participated in the U.S. election campaigns, particularly for Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders.   A Canadian illegal is charged with voter fraud in NY.

But the alleged Russian hackers are the bad guys ?

The majority of Canadians are a bunch of dandy's. They are more concerned about the rest of the world rather than worry and get involved with Canadian problems. It is their way of trying to not get involved. It's the Canadian way, eh?  

[bush_cheney2004]

Hillary Clinton had no problem injecting herself into Russian election outcomes back in 2011:

 

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When mass protests against Russian President Vladimir Putin erupted in Moscow in December 2011, Putin made clear who he thought was really behind them: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

With the protesters accusing Putin of having rigged recent elections, the Russian leader pointed an angry finger at Clinton, who had issued a statement sharply critical of the voting results. “She said they were dishonest and unfair,” Putin fumed in public remarks, saying that Clinton gave “a signal” to demonstrators working “with the support of the U.S. State Department” to undermine his power. “We need to safeguard ourselves from this interference in our internal affairs,” Putin declared.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/clinton-putin-226153

 

How do you say "Payback is a Bitch" in Russian ?

[GostHacked]

3 hours ago, ?Impact said:

Yes, Assange probably didn't get it from the Russians. What does that have to do with who carried out the hacking?

Remember that big Sony 'hack' from a couple years back? Turns out it was someone internally who leaked the info and there was NO hacking involved. Seems like this incident is shaping up to be very similar.  The MSM is calling out fake news, but at the same time they sure are pushing a lot of it out.