-1=e^ipi Posted December 10, 2015 Report Posted December 10, 2015 I would do whatever I could to... pray See, that's sort of the problem and reason why there is a refugee conflict. Belief in magic fairy tales.
WestCoastRunner Posted December 10, 2015 Report Posted December 10, 2015 (edited) Yeah, but who are they asking these poll questions? Not any minorities, that's for sure. Not women, or gays. And not many sane white males, if I do say so myself. Like I said earlier, he doesn't have a hope in hell of becoming President, so if the Republicans make him their boy they are committing political suicide. But he sure is funny to watch. Maybe not president but possibly the nominee for sure. But it's all a reality show for him. Edited December 10, 2015 by WestCoastRunner I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
WestCanMan Posted December 10, 2015 Report Posted December 10, 2015 I think that Donald Trump is really damaging the whole US electoral system. Choosing a President is really only a two dog race come election time and he's doing damage to the Republican Party that will almost certainly make the presidential election come down to who wins the Democratic nomination. The only people in the US who will get an actual vote in that scenario are from the Democrats. If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
eyeball Posted December 10, 2015 Report Posted December 10, 2015 Excellent, we're almost in agreement. I think it's worse, myself, as long as the people under the bombs deserve them. I think the people under the bombs that don't deserve them trump the one's who do. That said, you can be sure at least a few of the people who had planes dropped on them deserved it too. That's what most people everywhere in the west is really afraid of having mentioned. We're dropping bombs on people whose grievances are just as rooted in validity as our own. I am quite certain if we looked we would find people on both sides who are willing to approach a solution thusly. They'd be vilified and denounced as being with the enemy the minute they did by both sides - do I really need to point out who would be denouncing the peace and reconciliation process the loudest? The stupidest most backward people of all on the planet...not liberal progressives. A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Guest Posted December 10, 2015 Report Posted December 10, 2015 I think the people under the bombs that don't deserve them trump the one's who do. That said, you can be sure at least a few of the people who had planes dropped on them deserved it too. That's what most people everywhere in the west is really afraid of having mentioned. We're dropping bombs on people whose grievances are just as rooted in validity as our own. I am quite certain if we looked we would find people on both sides who are willing to approach a solution thusly. They'd be vilified and denounced as being with the enemy the minute they did by both sides - do I really need to point out who would be denouncing the peace and reconciliation process the loudest? The stupidest most backward people of all on the planet...not liberal progressives. How does that work, exactly? You have people who are trying to kill you, but you think they have a point. Do you just let them kill you?
Big Guy Posted December 10, 2015 Report Posted December 10, 2015 In the past, when I have read opinions stated here that I consider as being racist or bigoted or mysogenic or xenophobic then I would post a quote from established bigots and racists like Hitler, the Ku Klux Klan and other white power organizations. I was warned that this process was unacceptable so I stopped. Now we have Donald Trump and his quotes available. It is generally accepted that he is a racist, bigot, misogynist and xenophobe. I notice that those posters who have been posting the same views as Donald have gone silent as their "intelligent discussion of nationalism" has been revealed as Donald Trumpisms. I assume there are still some who do not see Trump as most of us do. I would like to hear more from those posters who have posted views about Islam and Muslims almost identical to what Donald is saying. Do you still agree with him or have you changed your mind? How do your views differ from that of Donald? Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
eyeball Posted December 10, 2015 Report Posted December 10, 2015 (edited) How does that work, exactly? You have people who are trying to kill you, but you think they have a point. Do you just let them kill you? No, I'd duck and cover like everyone else. I don't think the point is to kill me. If they did you could think of me as being collateral damage. If I survived I'd be making the same point and probably even more determined to get to the bottom of why their point is still a valid one. Edited December 10, 2015 by eyeball A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
DogOnPorch Posted December 10, 2015 Report Posted December 10, 2015 I think it was rather fortuitous for Islam that Trump said what he said. Now the religion is once again seen as the bedraggled victim. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 10, 2015 Report Posted December 10, 2015 I think it is amazing that Donald Trump galvanizes a discussion about Islamophobia in Canada. He must be a very remarkable man. Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted December 10, 2015 Report Posted December 10, 2015 I think it is amazing that Donald Trump galvanizes a discussion about Islamophobia in Canada. He must be a very remarkable man. If a Jihadi plugs 'em at a rally, we'll see if the "Je Suis Donald" posters get waved. Or not.... Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Argus Posted December 10, 2015 Report Posted December 10, 2015 (edited) No, I'd duck and cover like everyone else. Thus the difference between progressives and conservatives. Progressives would run away. Conservatives would shoot them in the face. Edited December 10, 2015 by Argus "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted December 10, 2015 Report Posted December 10, 2015 I think it was rather fortuitous for Islam that Trump said what he said. Now the religion is once again seen as the bedraggled victim. Only to brainless progressives. And nothing will change their mind on that anyway. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
waldo Posted December 10, 2015 Report Posted December 10, 2015 Only to brainless progressives. how do you make distinction between "brainless" and "brainmore" progressives? .
Argus Posted December 10, 2015 Report Posted December 10, 2015 Perhaps the kind of delightful expression of ethnic sentiment Canada can look forward to. Three members of a self-styled Muslim Sharia Patrol have been jailed for harassing, intimidating and assaulting people on the streets of east London while claiming they were enforcing sharia law. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/dec/06/muslim-vigilantes-jailed-sharia-law-attacks-london Police in the German city of Wuppertal are investigating a case of several young men who announced themselves to be 'Sharia police'. The group was 'patrolling' the streets, urging people to refrain from various sorts of activities and entertainment. The young men wearing orange safety vests with the words "Shariah police" written on the back caught both residents' and police attention in Wuppertal in North Rhine-Westphalia in western Germany earlier this week. https://www.rt.com/news/185664-sharia-police-patrol-germany/ http://www.mrctv.org/blog/sharia-patrols-harassing-citizens-london-belgium-sweden "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted December 10, 2015 Report Posted December 10, 2015 how do you make distinction between "brainless" and "brainmore" progressives? . You're right. Even as I wrote it I thought to myself this was an unnecessary adjective. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
waldo Posted December 10, 2015 Report Posted December 10, 2015 You're right. Even as I wrote it I thought to myself this was an unnecessary adjective. "unnecessary" as in from your perspective it goes without saying? So... all progressives then hey? Oh my!
DogOnPorch Posted December 10, 2015 Report Posted December 10, 2015 Only to brainless progressives. And nothing will change their mind on that anyway. What you and I might think no longer matters. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
On Guard for Thee Posted December 10, 2015 Report Posted December 10, 2015 I think he's playing a game for sure. Unfortunately, his supporters don't. And right there is the scariest part of the whole bloody mess. If the US didn't have such a hefty dose of bigots/conservatives, his bombast would fall on deaf ears.
dialamah Posted December 10, 2015 Report Posted December 10, 2015 Conservatives would shoot them in the face. And here I thought Conservatives preferred to hide in closets.
Big Guy Posted December 10, 2015 Report Posted December 10, 2015 And here I thought Conservatives preferred to hide in closets. Individuals speak for themselves and themselves only. You can have and state outrageous views and then try to hide them inside some legitimate banner - but that does not legitimize them. I know many, many people who consider themselves Conservatives, are party members and vote for the party who find what Trump said outrageous and bigoted. So far I have not seen or heard one member of the Conservative party support or agree with Trumps outrageous statements. I have seen posters on this board make outrageous, racist, bigoted statements and then try to rationalize them as conservative positions. I have read a poster here call Trump "the only adult in the room" after the outrage. When you have those distasteful views they represent you and yourself only. Do not try to use the cover of a legitimate philosophical political position to excuse unhealthy opinions. Why would anyone consider views posted by anonymous individuals as representing any party? Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 10, 2015 Report Posted December 10, 2015 (edited) Already an icon name on Canadian skylines, Donald Trump is now leading Canada's Islamophobia discussion. This is great cover (and typical) cross border diversion while Trudeau starts to import Syrian refugees, the original source of the phobia. Well done ! Edited December 10, 2015 by bush_cheney2004 Economics trumps Virtue.
waldo Posted December 10, 2015 Report Posted December 10, 2015 Already an icon name on Canadian skylines, Donald Trump is now leading Canada's Islamophobia discussion. Well done ! leading? A quick glance at all the National media outlets doesn't present a single link that frames Trump in terms of "Canada's Islamophobia"... there's certainly coverage of Trump's latest tirade, but it's all focused on U.S. (and International) reaction to it. well done!
GostHacked Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 What you and I might think no longer matters. This is one of the few moments where you speak some sort of truth that we can all agree with. The leaders do not give a damn about what anyone of us thinks. And yet we bicker among ourselves like we matter when we don't matter one f'n bit.
DogOnPorch Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 This is one of the few moments where you speak some sort of truth that we can all agree with. The leaders do not give a damn about what anyone of us thinks. And yet we bicker among ourselves like we matter when we don't matter one f'n bit. Still speaking for the group collective, I see. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GostHacked Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 Still speaking for the group collective, I see. As your statement was eluding to a group collective perspective. If I am wrong, I am hoping you could clarify.
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