Shady Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 You realize "bad green policy" was the product of the governments voted in (several times!) by the same voters you were just praising for having learned their lesson, yeah? Has there been an NDP government since? Nope. Wynne's now in the process of doing the same with the Ontario Liberals. She's their equivalent to Bob Rae. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Has there been an NDP government since? Nope. Given there hasn't been a PC government since HarrisEves almost 15 years ago, I guess people have learned their lesson about the PCs too. Wynne's now in the process of doing the same with the Ontario Liberals. She's their equivalent to Bob Rae. It's a slow process I guess. 13 years and counting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek 2.0 Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Neither are they a big deal. from 1994, 14 years of surplus followed by 6 years of deficit. None of the deficit years are of major consequence. If Prentice wins, he'll pull a Klein out of his colon. Klein turned deficit into surplus and eliminated the provincial debt , all while oil was around $20/barrel. If Notley wins, and she won't, she'll turn moderate deficit/debt into some serious numbers that socialists can be proud of. Alberta has a lot of ground to make up to catch Ontario and BC when it comes to debt. BC is catchable with four years of NDP in AB, but AB will have to pull out the stops to get close to the champ Ontario. The interest on the ON debt is about the same as the entire AB debt, Go Rachel! I'm sure Premier Dix will offer his utmost support to Premier Notley in destroying the Province..........since the polls are indicating an NDP majority, I'll go with a PC Government for the win...... ------- But consider this, the NDP does form a minority Government in the Heart of Harperland........how does this then play Federally? Is the Federal NDP now seen as the official anti-Harper vote, displacing Trudeau? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Given there hasn't been a PC government since HarrisEves almost 15 years ago, I guess people have learned their lesson about the PCs too. It's a slow process I guess. 13 years and counting. Wynne's only been office for 6 months. Hudak's the real reason for the absence. Not Harris or Eves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Wynne's only been office for 6 months. All the policies you're whinging about were put in place by her predecessor. And voters ressponded by returning the same party to power. Hudak's the real reason for the absence. Not Harris or Eves. Nah. If voters are still punishing the NDP for the Rae government of 25 year sago, then the same must hold true for the Conservatives. Hey, it's your narrative, not mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacee Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 Well this is interesting. /ralph-kleins-daughter-endorsing-ndp-in-2015-alberta-election Election day in Alberta ... . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted May 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 Also this: http://www.tooclosetocall.ca/2015/05/final-alberta-2015-projections-ndp.html "On Tuesday, history will be made in Alberta. The NDP of Rachel Notley will form the next government of this province while the long-term incumbent Progressive Conservatives will suffer a dramatic loss." http://www.threehundredeight.com/2015/05/an-ndp-majority-in-alberta.html "Of those six polls, not a single one gave the NDP less than 37% support, and only one put the gap between the New Democrats and the second place party in single digits. The others showed a lead for the NDP of between 11 and 19 points. In Alberta. The projection has now lurched from a largely minority situation between either the NDP or Wildrose to a likely majority victory for the New Democrats. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydraboss Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 Beer? Check. Munchies? Check. Multiple monitors, tablet and tv? Check. Check. Check. About time something interesting happened in Alberta politics. Still not taking the "NDP majority" pill though. I doubt Edmonton will be a complete sweep, and I think Calgary will be split three ways. Wildrose for the win in the "rest of Alberta". This is going to be fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 This where I miss sun news tv, they were the best at covering elections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydraboss Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 Any news service that keeps the rolling polls on screen is good enough. Listening to reporters and anchors "declare" ridings is such a joke. I prefer to monitor the elections myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 Jim Prentice probably didnt need to be having to fire his solicitor general (Jonathan Denis) right about now. Will that make for an even larger NDP sweep I wonder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydraboss Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 I actually think that will help Denis in his bid for reelection. I doubt he will win, but stepping down as Solicitor General won't hurt him considering he was pretty forthcoming with the reasons why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver King Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 Is it too late for predictions? (polls close in about 9 hours). NDP minority and both right wing parties form coalition to prevent the horrors of Alberta's first socialist regime - including the first opportunity to shine light under program rocks in 44 years, resulting in the need for several new white collar prisons. Isn't democracy wonderful? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 Here's another poll pointing to NDP majority http://www.cbc.ca/news/elections/alberta-votes/brian-jean-says-internal-wildrose-polls-show-ndp-majority-1.3060172 And considering where it's coming from.... WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydraboss Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 He's a couple of days too late with that one. He should have said it on Sunday to have the desired effect - PC voters running away from the NDP to the WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash74 Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 My prediction is NDP Majority.2015 in 2019 a complete whip out of the NDP in Alberta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 My prediction is NDP Majority.2015 in 2019 a complete whip out of the NDP in Alberta. That all depends. If they behave like the Manitoba NDP did for most of their mandate, that won't be a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 My prediction is NDP Majority.2015 in 2019 a complete whip out of the NDP in Alberta. NDP are pretty good at hiding their messes. It takes a few terms to realize how much damage they've done. By the time you realize you've made a bad choice, you're in a lot of serious trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacee Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 NDP are pretty good at hiding their messes. It takes a few terms to realize how much damage they've done. By the time you realize you've made a bad choice, you're in a lot of serious trouble. All parties try to hide their messes. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash74 Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 I do not think Alberta has enough money to come out unscathed from an NDP government. They are a great social conscience but not at forming government Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacee Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) I do not think Alberta has enough money to come out unscathed from an NDP government. They are a great social conscience but not at forming governmentIsn't Alberta the 'richest province'?Not enough money?!? Isn't that a bit ridiculous? Oh and ... I think the common stereotype of the NDP is ridiculous too, just a meaningless slam really. For example, private sector unions are pretty business-friendly: They need jobs. Of course, sometimes a good 'scathing' brings people back to reality too. Lol The flat tax has been an expensive handout to the wealthy during the boom years. I doubt Alberta can afford that anymore. . Edited May 6, 2015 by jacee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash74 Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 Isn't Alberta the 'richest province'? Not enough money?!? Isn't that a bit ridiculous? Oh and ... I think the common stereotype of the NDP is ridiculous too, just a meaningless slam really. For example, private sector unions are pretty business-friendly: They need jobs. Of course, sometimes a good 'scathing' brings people back to reality too. Lol The flat tax has been an expensive handout to the wealthy during the boom years. I doubt Alberta can afford that anymore. . I think in four years Alberta will not be able too afford a lot of things. The Bob Rae years are not a stereotype. It was really a case of government killing business and over spending. These are facts. Every curses the Mike Harris years but the last Ontario election Hudak blew it. Nobody ever gave serious thought to giving the NDP a chance B.C. ran from what should have been an NDP land slide last election because of the memories of the past. You watch history repeat itself in Alberta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver King Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 One hour before polls close! CBC reports huge increase in young people at polling stations - this doesn't bode well for the Dinosaur Party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poochy Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 One hour before polls close! CBC reports huge increase in young people at polling stations - this doesn't bode well for the Dinosaur Party. Well thats good, because we know that young people lead the way in making good choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver King Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 You would have to have been there in the 1960's and witnessed Social Credit 's 40 year dynasty destruction to appreciate what is apparently going to take place in Alberta tonight. For 41/2 decades they could run donkeys here with PC colors and get them elected, tonight all the portents say they will collectively declare enough is enough. Political junkies measure their lives on evenings like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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