Big Guy Posted May 5, 2015 Report Posted May 5, 2015 (edited) Are those who criticize Israeli's when they beat on black folks considered anti-Zionist? http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/insidestory/2015/05/black-israelis-discriminated-150504193123474.html Are the only good Israeli's, white Israeli's? Can a black person be considered a real Israeli? Edited May 5, 2015 by Big Guy Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Rue Posted May 5, 2015 Report Posted May 5, 2015 (edited) The comments by Jacee, B Guy and H Jones in two threads about a recent story about Ethiopians protesting treatment in Israel of a young Ehiopian soldier at the hands of police are to be expected-an excuse to piss on Israel in cue. What is interesting to note is as follows: 1-B Guy et al never have attacked all Canadians as racist or questioned their allegiance to their country as the result of the questionable actions of police-no not B Guy, they only see fit to do that if its a pretext to piss on Israel; 2-it never dawned on B Guy of course that the Ethiopians in Israel are there precisely because of Zionism and continue to be Zionists and did not protest against Zionism; 3-never mind the Ehiopians are Zionists, Israelis and not being attacked because they are Zionist, hey let's just throw out the racist card. In Israel there has always been since the creation of Israel tensions in many communities. Jews have come from all over the world. The cultural and language differences between Mitzrahi-Tsfardic-Arab Jews and Eastern European Ashkanazi Jews and between North and South African Jews, Asian and other African Jews arises no different than in any other melting pot nation. Russian Jews in Israel for example can manifest racism against darker skinned Jews. This happens of course on an inter-personal level. However when your agenda is to come on this board and flood it with anti Israel scripts the game is to suggest its implemented by the government as a Zionist belief. The game is to misrepresent it as state policy to engage in an attack against the entire people of Israel and their right to exist. Whether the actual roughing up was because he was black or simply because he was young and mouthy no one ones. The racist perception though is there because he's Ethiopian and its symbolic for many of their tensions adjusting within Israeli society. Well if Zionism was racist it would have never rescued Felashie Jews and in the first place but hey logic is not necessary when you exploit issues for anti Israel scripts. Will Big Guy et al use their same standard to question any other country in the world with this problem-of course not. Will Big Guy et al acknowledge the racism inherent in Sharia law nations, of course not. Now I ask the board to look at the responses of Big Guy, Hudson Jones and Marcus and tell me if you see any difference? Look at the timing and content. Bottom line, Israel has issues with many of its peoples living in small confined areas. Adjusting to an Israeli society is not easy. It is a tension a melting pot nation undergoes. Its not Zionism, its human nature. Go on let the Big Guys et al point out the Zionist doctrine of racial superiority. They have been asked many times. They can't-so the best they can do is through out some allegations with zero proof of Zionism being racist in ideology hoping the name calling inflames and avoids rational thought processes. Another day, another script right boys and girls? Edited May 5, 2015 by Rue Quote
LemonPureLeaf Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 Israel is the land promised to the Jews by God. Only the Jews may live on this land. The Jews took it back by force and will keep it by force. If the Arabs stopped attacking Israel then their would he peace. The Arabs don't want peace. If they did they wouldn't attack Israel. Hamas and Hezzbollah need to keep the Arabs angry so they can stay in power. Quote
eyeball Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 God and Allah need to go fight their own battles and give us proxies a deity-damned break. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
jacee Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 (edited) The comments by Jacee, B Guy and H Jones in two threads about a recent story about Ethiopians protesting treatment in Israel of a young Ehiopian soldier at the hands of police are to be expected-an excuse to piss on Israel in cue. ... Another day, another script right boys and girls? Another day, another broadbrush Rue slam rant. :/What comments of mine are you referring to Rue? Please quote my posts. Do not refer to me unless you are quoting and addressing something I have actually said. I am not responsible for what other people say. . Edited May 7, 2015 by jacee Quote
jacee Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 God and Allah need to go fight their own battles and give us proxies a deity-damned break. Sounds like a plan. . Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 God and Allah need to go fight their own battles and give us proxies a deity-damned break. Allah is Arabic for "God", so they mean the same thing. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
eyeball Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 Sorry about that, I meant Muhammad and Jesus. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
GostHacked Posted May 9, 2015 Report Posted May 9, 2015 Israel is the land promised to the Jews by God. Only the Jews may live on this land. The Jews took it back by force and will keep it by force. If the Arabs stopped attacking Israel then their would he peace. The Arabs don't want peace. If they did they wouldn't attack Israel. Hamas and Hezzbollah need to keep the Arabs angry so they can stay in power. But taking land by force is allowing peace? Quote
Rue Posted May 9, 2015 Report Posted May 9, 2015 Moonlight Graham Allah became "God" after Islam. Prior to Islam Arabs used it to refer to one of many Gods. It was but one of may Gods worshiped by he Quarish tribe where Muhammed comes from.Muhammed supposedly is the one who changed its use to refer to but one God. It could be used to mean THE God today in Arabic but only if you are Muslim, Jewish, Christian, Bahai. Its possible there are ancient sects that still use it differently although they would be very discrete and keep their religions to themselves to avoid being persecuted by Muslims. Quote
Hudson Jones Posted May 10, 2015 Report Posted May 10, 2015 This article is probably one of the most sober indicators that Israel has no future as a democratic country. Amazingly written by a right wing extremist complaining about other right wing extremists. The fascist force of revisionist Zionism, clear from its inception, is becoming more and more of a common teenage reality, and eventually it will drive out moderate Jews, in addition to all Palestinians. There is no one to stop this process in global geopolitics today. This is something only Jews themselves could reverse, but there is no awakening. There are all kinds of democracies and constitutional monarchies that work well. There is no compromise when it comes to human rights, however. Either everyone is equal before the law, or the law dies. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
jbg Posted May 10, 2015 Author Report Posted May 10, 2015 Either everyone is equal before the law, or the law dies. Does that mean Jews would be able to live in peace and equality in your vision of a Palestine? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Hudson Jones Posted May 11, 2015 Report Posted May 11, 2015 Does that mean Jews would be able to live in peace and equality in your vision of a Palestine? The Jews lived in peace and equality before the mass Zionist migration from Europe into Palestine. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
Smallc Posted May 11, 2015 Report Posted May 11, 2015 The Jews lived in peace and equality before the mass Zionist migration from Europe into Palestine. Quote
Hudson Jones Posted May 11, 2015 Report Posted May 11, 2015 Here is a chance for you to learn something - The Muslims, Christians and Jews in Palestine, lived in peace before the mass Zionist immigration and the colonialist project: Here is what an Israeli has to say about this - Again, listen very carefully, you might learn something: Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
Rue Posted May 11, 2015 Report Posted May 11, 2015 The thing about a script is no matter how absurd it is, it will be presented over and over again. To even attempt to spin that all was fine until Zionists showed up is par for the script and if anyone thinks its not a script, lol, knock yourself out agreeing with it. Lol. The world of the Middle East was one big orgasmic harmonious happening until the Big Z's showed up. Lol. Quote
marcus Posted May 12, 2015 Report Posted May 12, 2015 The thing about a script is no matter how absurd it is, it will be presented over and over again. To even attempt to spin that all was fine until Zionists showed up is par for the script and if anyone thinks its not a script, lol, knock yourself out agreeing with it. Lol. The world of the Middle East was one big orgasmic harmonious happening until the Big Z's showed up. Lol. Lol. The son of an Israeli General is lying and he has some racist, self-hating motive. Lol. The truth is that Muslims, Christians and Jews lived in peace as Palestinians. Of course, until the Zionist project started. Lol. Lol. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
Je suis Omar Posted May 13, 2015 Report Posted May 13, 2015 (edited) 24 views and no replies? The relevance to today seems clear. Back then ad hoc decisions were made to consign the Jews to slaughter. Those are being made again in the name of "anti-Zionism." Second verse, same as the first? The relevance to today is eerie. Never would Hitler have dared to select one people for annihilation had not the road been prepared for him by all kinds and degrees of anti-Semites. A person's constitutional rights are secure only when his social standing in a community is secure. If a people is singled out for hatred, as a group, if the fact of just belonging to this group is considered enough to count as a crime, that people loses, in the eyes its persecutors, the dignity and mysticism of a human being. Then justice is warped and animal instincts are brought forth. History has proven the author wrong. The USA has done to myriad peoples of myriad nations, exactly what the nazis did to the Jews. Not on the same scale to one group and not in the same fashion. But with the same malevolence, the same viciousness, the same total disregard for their victims. What makes what the USA has done more evil even than the Nazis is that the USA has made these outrageously false claims throughout history that it is a force for good, a savior of the oppressed, which we now know is all complete hogwash. The second factor is that the USA has had such a long run, which has put them in first place, ahead of the Nazis. It is a fact that all who have prepared this ground of hatred toward the Jews and other races are exactly as responsible for the bestial slaughter of the Jews in Poland, and others, as Hitler and his clique. Even if today they are frightened by the results of their hatred, they are, as guilty as the Nazis. Hitler only gathers the fruit of their well-planted seed. It is a fact that all who have prepared this ground of hatred toward the Cubans, Vietnamese, Filipinos and other races are exactly as responsible for the bestial slaughter of the Koreans in Korea, and others, as US administrations and their cliques. Even if today they are frightened by the results of their hatred, they are, as guilty as the Nazis. The USA only gathers the fruit of their well-planted seed. Edited May 13, 2015 by Je suis Omar Quote
Je suis Omar Posted May 13, 2015 Report Posted May 13, 2015 (edited) Here is a chance for you to learn something - The Muslims, Christians and Jews in Palestine, lived in peace before the mass Zionist immigration and the colonialist project: https://www.yout?v=vT3E8yr8hoM Here is what an Israeli has to say about this - Again, listen very carefully, you might learn something: https://www.youtube.com/watlQQ I really wish you would stop providing sources that provide facts to back up what you are saying, HJ. They are simply not as compelling or as educational as, say, Smallc's emoticons. Edited May 13, 2015 by Je suis Omar Quote
jbg Posted May 17, 2015 Author Report Posted May 17, 2015 The Jews lived in peace and equality before the mass Zionist migration from Europe into Palestine. Dhimmitude is peace and equality? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Big Guy Posted May 18, 2015 Report Posted May 18, 2015 More riots in East Jerusalem are Israeli hardliners celebrate the occupation of East Jerusalem 48 years ago by marching with Israeli flags waving through the Muslim Quarter of East Jerusalem. Yes, the Israelis certainly want peace and certainly to not insult, aggravate or incite the Palestinians. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
sharkman Posted May 18, 2015 Report Posted May 18, 2015 Dhimmitude is peace and equality? On one hand, you've got Israel trying to live in peace, and on the other hand you've got radical Islam which is far closer to anything the Nazis did than even Joseph Stalin. There is no point in talking to people that are out of touch with the reality of the situation. Quote
marcus Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 On one hand, you've got Israel trying to live in peace Land theft and human rights violations is not trying to live in peace. You have once again come in here with one of your fantasy statements. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
jacee Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) Dhimmitude is peace and equality?No. Not for anyone.I guess two state is the solution? What are Israel's borders? Edited May 19, 2015 by jacee Quote
Big Guy Posted May 19, 2015 Report Posted May 19, 2015 When the English Protestants insisted on marching through turbulent Catholic neighborhoods in Northern Ireland celebrating a 300 year old battle, was that an attempt at peace and peaceful resolution to the conflict? Why march through neighborhoods, flying flags and rubbing peoples noses in their previous defeat? Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
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