Eyrie Posted January 3, 2013 Report Posted January 3, 2013 For over 20 days now, chief Theresa Spence has camped out in a traditional TP in Ottawa in order to protest the Budget bill, among other things. Here is a link to my video about it; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82b9BzeheQg Please like, comment and subscribe if you want to see more, and thank you for simply viewing this post! Have a nice day Quote
The_Squid Posted January 3, 2013 Report Posted January 3, 2013 She chooses to starve herself in protest. She refused to meet with the Indian Affairs Minister. She is willing to meet with opposition MPs. As much as I don't like Harper, or the current gov't, I can't fault them for their current position. Quote
scribblet Posted January 3, 2013 Report Posted January 3, 2013 I agree, her dietary choices are her own. Considering the gov't is putting more money into suicide prevention in young native people, it's pretty sad (and creepy) that she would choose to use suicide as a method of blackmail. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Smallc Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 I'm sorry, but she isn't going to starve herself. She's obviously addicted to food. Quote
NativeCharm Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 Is there any real purpose behind this thread other than to breed hostility? The hunger strike is a form of protest and its a sacred fast in our culture. We do not have many options to protest/oppose or reject any legislation without being labelled as a 'terrorist'. Beleive me when I say, that the native nations are exhausting every effort to resist peacefully and strive for a positive relationship with the current government. Duncan has no place at the negotiating table. He has no authority and in fact represents what is horribly failing us all. If we are going to make any progress with discussions, it has to be leader to leader. Offer sound solutions instead of antagonizing the situation please. Quote It's a shame that stupidity isn't painful.
Smallc Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 Offer sound solutions instead of antagonizing the situation please. How about....her first? Quote
NativeCharm Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 (edited) I believe she is, the government has been stalling and dragging their feet just long enough to let china make you its newest citizen. Yay FIPA, when your tax dollars start going to all the law suits china will be throwing at your government, I wonder how quickly you will be able to solve the problem then. Your rights are at the stake just as much, yet they dont want you to figure it out. and by the time you do, it will be too late. Yeah, I didnt actually think you had any solutions and I am sure you would like us all to be quiet and simply go away, but we're not. Threads like this are pathetic and reminds me that I got better things to do. This is why we have so much animosity between Natives and non- natives. Edited January 4, 2013 by NativeCharm Quote It's a shame that stupidity isn't painful.
Smallc Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 I believe she is, the government has been stalling and dragging their feet just long enough to let china make you its newest citizen. Hyperbole. Yay FIPA, when your tax dollars start going to all the law suits china will be throwing at your government, I wonder how quickly you will be able to solve the problem then. Your rights are at the stake just as much, yet they dont want you to figure it out. and by the time you do, it will be too late. All of this your stuff. We're all the same people. Yeah, I didnt actually think you had any solutions and I am sure you would like us all to be quiet and simply go away, but we're not. Threads like this are pathetic and reminds me that I got better things to do. This is why we have so much animosity between Natives and non- natives. I have a solution. You're living in the past. I think we need to move forward. Quote
NativeCharm Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 I have a solution. You're living in the past. I think we need to move forward. the only solutions being offered have been at the historical and ongoing expense of the native peoples. In order to move forward you have to deal with the past, today. Quote It's a shame that stupidity isn't painful.
DogOnPorch Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 the only solutions being offered have been at the historical and ongoing expense of the native peoples. In order to move forward you have to deal with the past, today. Or what? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Smallc Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 the only solutions being offered have been at the historical and ongoing expense of the native peoples. No, actually, those aren't the only solutions being offered. Quote
Big Guy Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 Who is representing ALL the native people? Is it the chiefs, or those elected by the bands, or the mothers or the militants, or anybody who can get into the picture? And once we have an idea who is the legitimate spokesperson we can find out EXACTLY what they want. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
gunrutz Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 Is there any real purpose behind this thread other than to breed hostility? The hunger strike is a form of protest and its a sacred fast in our culture. We do not have many options to protest/oppose or reject any legislation without being labelled as a 'terrorist'. Beleive me when I say, that the native nations are exhausting every effort to resist peacefully and strive for a positive relationship with the current government. Duncan has no place at the negotiating table. He has no authority and in fact represents what is horribly failing us all. If we are going to make any progress with discussions, it has to be leader to leader. Offer sound solutions instead of antagonizing the situation please. Ah yes, the it's a sacred thing argument, well first of all she is far from starving, and secondly my money is sacred and I don't want you to have any more of it. Quote
Sleipnir Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 The hunger strike is a form of protest and its a sacred fast in our culture. We do not have many options to protest/oppose or reject any legislation without being labelled as a 'terrorist'. Try using legal techniques when protesting to shake of the 'terrorist' tag. Beleive me when I say, that the native nations are exhausting every effort to resist peacefully and strive for a positive relationship with the current government. Hardly. Duncan has no place at the negotiating table. He has no authority and in fact represents what is horribly failing us all. If we are going to make any progress with discussions, it has to be leader to leader. John Duncan is the minister of Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development - of course he has authority. Offer sound solutions instead of antagonizing the situation please. Looks to me the other side is antagonizing the situation unnecessarily. Quote "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence; then success is sure." - Mark Twain
Battletoads Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 I wouldn't call taking a break from solid foods a "Hunger Strike". Quote "You can lead a Conservative to knowledge, but you can't make him think."
Boges Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 I story popped up on my phone that says she's in horrible medical shape. I think she was in horrible shape before the hunger strike. :-/ Apparently she wants a 2 week audience with the PM? Who gets that? If the PM gives in then that means anyone that wants to have a chat with the MP can just threaten to kill themselves over the course of a few weeks. Quote
scribblet Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 I didn't get that 'two week' audience thing either. This woman is nothing but a blackmailer and could set back relations which could also result in violence. Suicide is certainly not a good example to set for young people, in fact, one of the worst. If the suicide rate increases she will be to blame. http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/straighttalk/archives/2013/01/20130103-152649.html Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
PIK Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 Reported on the radio yesterday ,that you can now donate to her private bank account, run by her boyfriend .And this BF seems to have a very good job, that was given to him by her. If this turns out to be true , something is up. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Boges Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 Reported on the radio yesterday ,that you can now donate to her private bank account, run by her boyfriend .And this BF seems to have a very good job, that was given to him by her. If this turns out to be true , something is up. Ezra Levant reported that. It of course means it's a lie. Quote
Boges Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 (edited) http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/1310396--idle-no-more-protests-chief-theresa-spence-rejects-atleo-s-meeting-proposal-sets-72-hour-deadline How do you put a 72-hour deadline on a request for a meeting? Will she stop the hunger strike after 3 days? I like how she also wants the GG to attend to meeting. Why not stop there? Demand ER2 comes in from England to discuss the issue after all it's her country that seized this land in the first place right? Edited January 4, 2013 by Boges Quote
PIK Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 Now it seems her BF was made co -leader or something like that, and reportedly made 221g's last year. And that the band has millions in stocks. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
The_Squid Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 Now it seems her BF was made co -leader or something like that, and reportedly made 221g's last year. And that the band has millions in stocks. If you are going to say things like this, then provide a link to the details. Quote
Canuckistani Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 If you are going to say things like this, then provide a link to the details. Attawapiskat Chief Theresa Spence's household made as much as $250,000 in the fiscal year ending March 2011. As the leader of the remote northern Ontario reserve stages a hunger strike in Ottawa, demanding that Prime Minister Stephen Harper meet with her to discuss the third-world conditions in her community, documents show that plenty of cash is moving through the settlement. Financial audits show that while Spence was paid $71,377 as current chief, her partner, Clayton Kennedy, was also employed as the reserve's co-manager. Kennedy's consulting company, Moo Shum Enterprises Inc, charges $850 per day - working out to $221,000 per year. http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/politics/archives/2013/01/20130103-200333.html Quote
PIK Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 Pretty hard when it is on the radio, and lets not forget the millions from debeers(SP). Open the books and let see where the money goes. And lets not forget that alot of reserves do quite well and this is not a wide spread thing. And now that harper is going to meets the chiefs on the 11th, it is time for her to end this sham. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Canuckistani Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 Pretty hard when it is on the radio, and lets not forget the millions from debeers(SP). Open the books and let see where the money goes. And lets not forget that alot of reserves do quite well and this is not a wide spread thing. And now that harper is going to meets the chiefs on the 11th, it is time for her to end this sham. DeBeers. 325 million in contracts to Attawaspikat companies. The claim is these companies only made 100,000 profit from that tho. Quote
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