gunrutz

As I have been sitting here and reading through this travesty of a forum thread I have come to realize just what an incredibly pooorly run and pathetic excuse for a forum this is. Of course that was already clear, when idiots like this and a few others are given the freedom to say any idiotic fucking thing that pops into their small minds, lowering the discussion to the lowest on every occasion. The moderators and owners of this site should be absolutely ashamed that posts like the above have been allowed to remain for any amount of time, this person is off his nut, and you are just as bad for allowing it to make over 5,000 posts here. What a fucking joke.

http://www.castanet.net/edition/news-story-116272-1-.htm#116272 This is the kind of prejuduice that gun onwers face in this country, it used to be that I could walk down the road with a rifle to a hunting spot when I was a kid, doing that now is likely to get you arrested, nothing illegal about it, but those who fear the thing while knowing nothing about them always know best. Of course some here probably don't care that their bigotry and ignorance leads to a society where a legal gun owner gets taken down in fornt of his child by police to placate the concerns of an idiot neighbor.

Define please.

We can't even keep people institutionalized for more than a couple of years after they have killed, decapitated and eaten parts of their victim, just how on earth are we going to honestly deal with and help those who haven't done anything wrong yet? I agree that the people should be the focus, but it seems that we go out of our way to allow known unstable people second and who knows how many chances at life, some of whom reoffend, and we do it to be nice, to be caring, or something. Those don't seem like policies put into place by conservatives, so allow bad people back on the street, but blame the weapon every time an unstable person kills someone, i find it hard to reconcile that way of thinking. I am not against gun control, i would agree the gun laws in the US are too weak for their own good, but it wouldn't matter if you say lived in a country, lets call it Canada, our levels of gun crime are as we often see mentioned, much, much lower. But that doesn't matter, because every time someone is shot here the call to ban guns starts again, doesn't matter what firearm is used, it's always there somewhere. It's no different than in the states when someone goes on a rampage with an 'assault rifle', they simply must be banned, even though they acount for a tiny fraction of the total firearms homicides. That doesn't matter of course, because there is no one who knows more about firearms than people who know absolutely knothing about firearms. A repeating shotgun, your basic hunting shotgun, is just as dangerous and deadly under the right conditions, ban it, it's the only answer some will ever see.

Agree, the pitching is weak, they wont be able to maintian this and will fall back to the pack.

Yea, i bet there are a lot of people from histroy that would disagree with that, and no, im not suggesting no restrictions on firearms, and it works in Canada...says who exactly? There are no roberies in Canada? No violence in Canada? No unsolved cases in Canada? Seriously.

Maybe you don't understand it because your projecting your own failings upon them and in reality that isn't why they do those things, but carry on.

I think it is in part because men care more for the health of thier wives/families than they do for themselves, most of us are still trained, rightly or wrongly to be the protector, i think we end up neglecting issues that effect us as a result, though that is changing.

You are without doubt the most boring and repetitive poster i have read on this forum.

So appearently line loss isn't a real thing, or if it is we just have to live within the solar or wind farm that while it can only produce power part time, and is of course more expensive, and for which no technology allows for storage of unused power, which again demands traditional sources when the wind doesn't blow, forcing a traditional redundancy of 100% capacity, in effect making the green sources pointless, except as a feel good, we are saving a tiny bit of fossil fuels today, at incredible cost to the end user, which hurts our economy while other places that couldn't care less about some of this pollyanna green bullshit offer cheap electricity to manufacturers moving good jobs away. Sounds good. People who truly, truly beleive that wind or solar can currently provide anything approaching a significant amount of electrical generation while at the same time being economically feasible, simply have no understanding of the subject.

It can't be accepted, because wind and solar are not viable alternatives, and your, blame/we are better than the americans comment in many of your posts are just ridiculous.

You can strike the word prosecutor if you like, but the process, even if you are found innocent, is in and of itself a punishment, that's just reality, and none of the unfortunate possibilities you mention change the hard fact that it is unfeasible to expect the provider of a legal intoxicant to completely monitor and manage the intake of that substance for all of it's patrons, all of the time. Because, for a variety of reasons, it is impossible to ensure that no one ever drives drunk after leaving a bar or restaurant, and then harms someone, it is ridiculous to expect this task of them, and then wrong to place the ultimate blame upon them for allowing it to happen. We mostly have free will, people will do stupid and bad things with that, nothing can prevent that, we should beg, and plead with servers and bar owners to not over serve, but it should not be in anyway their responsibility when they do, either purposefully or accidentally. We can all work to reduce drunk driving, but it is wrong to expect someone else to be at fault for an individuals mistake. The alternative is a society without freedom, some people are harmed with the misuse of that freedom, this is true, most of us wouldn't want to live in the kind of society where that freedom is denied us, usually by the state, by force. These things are the unfortunate reality of the real world, innocent people sometimes get hurt, it will always be that way, you don't have to like it, but we all have to live with it, the alternatives are not palatable.

What you call reasonable i call allowing the descretion of a prosecutor or a judge to determine the guilt or innocence of a bar owner for serving his legal drink to someone who maybe shouldn't be served, a verdict that could go either way simply because the law is too grey and cannot possibly 100% complied with.

Yes it is ridiculous to expect bars to prevent drunk driving, so long as alcohol is legal, and i dont care what idiot judge thinks otherwise, it is impressive though that some people believe things must be a certain way because a judge said so, as if they aren't people, and are never wrong. In any case there have to be dozens of different scenarios in which a bar owner or servers could not possibly be expected to control someones drinking, or driving, it is completely and utterly ridiculous to imagine they could. I have 5 drinks before arriving at a bar, im legally drunk, but appear to be realatively sober, i have one more drink, i run someone over, bars fault? And yes, the legal limit is relatively low, .08 isn't off your ass drunk for most people. I drink at bar, i am over .08, i appear 'tipsy', bar owner insists i don't drive, i give bar owner the finger and drive anyway, i am over .08 and kill someone, bar owners fault? I drink at bar, am a bit over the limit, bar owner insists i don't drive, i say no, im walking tonight, i walk two blocks, get in my car and kill someone, bar owners fault? Should they be forced to tail me? It goes on and on. This idea like many others from nanny statists simply dont work, and never will, not until we all have every single aspect of our lives controlled and monitored by the state will some of you be happy, in a free society people do bad things and others get hurt, that is a price we pay for being able to make some choices for ourselves. A bar selling a legal substance should not ever be asked to be responsible for that substances consumption simply because it is in reality impossible for them to be responsible, o, and then there is those dirty words called personal responsibility. Hey if an employer pays people to perform shift work and those people drive home tired, and scientifically as impaired as a person who is legally drunk, should the employer pay to shuttle those people to and from work? When grandma cant react fast enough at a cross walk and a kid jumps out in front of her do we blame the kid's parents for not teaching them well enough, do we blame gandma for not being quite fast enough, or do we go after the government for allowing her to drive, or not somehow making the roads safer for older drivers, where does this lunacy end? We make individuals responsible for their actions, thats all. You can not prevent every bad action, not without complete control.

A properly trained or improperly trained dog of any breed can be dangerous, if you ban pitbulls people will just move on to something else. I owned a wonderful lab/shepard cross that weighed in at a trim 160lbs, who was the worlds biggest baby and never hurt anyone, trained to be mean? A killer, easily, where do we stop blaiming the dogs, what breeds do we allow?