PIK Posted December 14, 2012 Report Posted December 14, 2012 NEWTOWN, Conn. -- A lone gunman at the center of a terrifying Friday morning elementary school shooting here has been killed, authorities say. The Associated Press and local media reported the shooter, an unidentified adult male, had been in the main office at Sandy Hook Elementary School. Two handguns were recovered from the scene. Its unclear how many victims there were and if there were other fatalities. At least one victim had numerous gunshot wounds. Mayor Mark Boughton said several victims had been taken to local hospitals. But details were sketchy. The Newtown Bee reported that a police officer carried a seriously wounded child from the building. Groups of students — some crying, some holding hands — were being escorted away from the school by their teachers. Some students were still in the school at 10:30 a.m., after it was placed on lock down, parents said. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...ticut/1769367/ On the radio it said 28 dead-18 were kids. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Shady Posted December 14, 2012 Report Posted December 14, 2012 I wonder what makes someone wanna do something like that. Quote
Sleipnir Posted December 14, 2012 Report Posted December 14, 2012 (edited) I wonder what makes someone wanna do something like that. Someone who is insane. To lose your child before Christmas...my sympathy to the victims. Edited December 14, 2012 by Sleipnir Quote "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence; then success is sure." - Mark Twain
TheNewTeddy Posted December 14, 2012 Report Posted December 14, 2012 These parents probably already have presents for their kids. This is just tragic. Quote Feel free to contact me outside the forums. Add "TheNewTeddy" to Twitter, Facebook, or Hotmail to reach me!
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 14, 2012 Report Posted December 14, 2012 Seriously...it would be better to lose children after Christmas? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted December 14, 2012 Report Posted December 14, 2012 omg Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Shady Posted December 14, 2012 Report Posted December 14, 2012 Second amendment FTW. Ignorance for the bigger win! Quote
Black Dog Posted December 14, 2012 Report Posted December 14, 2012 Ignorance for the bigger win! The system works, Shady. You should be pleased. Quote
Boges Posted December 14, 2012 Report Posted December 14, 2012 (edited) I think the US should have a long-gun registry that will stop mass-shootings. Right? Edited December 14, 2012 by Boges Quote
-TSS- Posted December 14, 2012 Report Posted December 14, 2012 Oklahoma taught us not to draw conclusions too early about the culprits before we are aware of the details. Quote
Boges Posted December 14, 2012 Report Posted December 14, 2012 Oklahoma taught us not to draw conclusions too early about the culprits before we are aware of the details. They already have a name. His mother was a teacher at the school. Quote
Black Dog Posted December 14, 2012 Report Posted December 14, 2012 I think the US should have a long-gun registry that will stop mass-shootings. Right? Absolutely not. The system is fine. Today's dead children and the 80 others that are killed by guns in the U.S.A each day are simply unfortunate sacrifices made in the name of freedom. Quote
Boges Posted December 14, 2012 Report Posted December 14, 2012 (edited) Absolutely not. The system is fine. Today's dead children and the 80 others that are killed by guns in the U.S.A each day are simply unfortunate sacrifices made in the name of freedom. Seems that way. I heard even Obama shy'd away from discussing gun control laws today. I think it's too ingrained in their culture for them to consider major gun control reform. It's their second amendment! The most import thing is freedom of religion and speech, second; the right to own a gun. It seems silly to us looking on the outside because we don't have a gun culture. Almost as silly as government run healthcare probably seems to them. Edited December 14, 2012 by Boges Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 14, 2012 Report Posted December 14, 2012 .... Almost as silly as government run healthcare probably seems to them. Pretty much, except that the 2nd Amendment has been around from the very beginning, not the CHA. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Boges Posted December 14, 2012 Report Posted December 14, 2012 I doubt this incident will change the opinions of people who support the second amendment. In fact I suspect it'll strengthen their resolve. They'll think perhaps this man could have been stopped if someone in that school was armed as well. Quote
guyser Posted December 14, 2012 Report Posted December 14, 2012 . In fact I suspect it'll strengthen their resolve. They'll think perhaps this man could have been stopped if someone in that school was armed as well. Thats probably true. Someone with a gun may have shortended the killing spree. I dont think this should change the opinions of those who support 2A. Quote
The_Squid Posted December 14, 2012 Report Posted December 14, 2012 I wonder what it will finally take before lawmakers do something to try and prevent these things. I'm not talking just 2nd amendment. But what, if anything, has changed to prevent these sorts of tragedies since Columbine? Quote
Sleipnir Posted December 14, 2012 Report Posted December 14, 2012 (edited) Someone with a gun may have shortended the killing spree. Yet there was no one with a gun to stop the killing spree so your logic fails. Gun laws are not strict in Connecticut. Edited December 14, 2012 by Sleipnir Quote "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence; then success is sure." - Mark Twain
The_Squid Posted December 14, 2012 Report Posted December 14, 2012 Yet there was no one with a gun to stop the killing spree so your logic fails. Gun laws are not strict in Connecticut. And it may have simply created more carnage. The evidence is in..... Easy access to guns do not reduce the violence. Just the opposite in fact. Quote
GostHacked Posted December 14, 2012 Report Posted December 14, 2012 And it may have simply created more carnage. The evidence is in..... Easy access to guns do not reduce the violence. Just the opposite in fact. Making it harder for people to obtain guns do not reduce the violence either. Don't forget criminals don't care about any gun law and will obtain a gun one way or another. Were these guns legally owned that this person used? Quote
Boges Posted December 14, 2012 Report Posted December 14, 2012 Strict Gun Laws in Toronto didn't prevent the Danzig Street Party shooting this summer. There isn't a simple answer to preventing crime like this. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted December 14, 2012 Report Posted December 14, 2012 Second amendment FTW. Yes, because it's the second amendment that makes people do this sort of thing. Quote
guyser Posted December 14, 2012 Report Posted December 14, 2012 Yet there was no one with a gun to stop the killing spree so your logic fails. . Uh you need to re-read my post in relation to boges. Quote
Guest Manny Posted December 14, 2012 Report Posted December 14, 2012 Just because something does not provide an all-inclusive, ideal solution to a problem does not mean it's a useless, bad idea. But before anyone can say this happened because of easy access to guns, the whole story needs to be heard. Maybe he already had legal access to guns before he did this. On the other hand I like the idea that new guns cannot be purchased quickly, in certain circumstances. Gun control may not eliminate violence but might prevent someone from doing something violently, in the "heat of passion". Quote
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