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Well no. Ww1 vets came home to the roaring 20's but all fell by the wayside in teh 30's. And frankly for vets there was no real help and many suffered terribly. WW2 vets had it a little easier but then sat on their laurals - the 60's and 70's was very anti military and the military and the vets did nothing. How would you know? The only noise that's defining is your silence. if you guys don't care - why would anyone else.

Annnd that's why the dems are worse. @WestCanMan has a very valid point - faced with reactions like yours people have little choice but to side with trump if they're going to vote at all. Right now in history the left is full of angry ignorant bigoted people. So you wind up having to choose your bigot

Well we can't say that from the evidence. Just that they have more spine. IF what you're saying is true of course.. Perhaps the problem is that most military people DON"T actually feel the way you say and would tend to disagree with you and Doug, That would also explain it But that would kinda take away your excuse for slagging the country. More or less. Like i said if you genuinely need it spelled out step by step i'm happy to help but sure - its not "hard". It's just a lot of work. Where? I haven't heard of it. I haven't seen anything. And i'm a newsie - i scour all kinds of media for news of interest If they're demonstrating, they're being very sneaky and quiet about it. I DO remember about a decade ago the military was unhappy about pensions and raised a fuss and the public got behind them and things changed. But - haven't heard much since. Canadian VETS don't seem to give a rat's ass about Canada's vets. If you guys don't care enough to do something why should anyone else? Yeah. Thanks to trudeau and the liberals everything is broken. The people who voted for him should be ashamed. So - good men and women have taken up the challenge to try to resolve that. The CPC has elected a leader who's able to fight and win, and who's qualified to lead us back from this mess. I was part of that, Did you even bother? When the election rolls around i'll likely be out there working in the trenches again depending on health. As i have many many elections and i've seen what a difference volunteers can make. When was the last time you did that? And when he gets in we'll work with the party to try to make sure it stays on course. You will be sitting and complaining. So people like me will fix the broken country. Those are the people who REALLY defend our nation. Nope - that's you. The rest of us are working to fix it. Doesn't look that way - looks like they couldnt' care less. All i'm hearing from you is excuses for failure - that's not what someone does when they're actually fed up. I'm surprised if it was ACTUALLY important that you wouldn't do something about it. Maybe you could get the trans people to give you some pointers? A lot of people would likely agree. But - you make it impossible for them to do anything so what does it matter. If this conversation had been about gun owners 15 years ago you would have already been given a chance to sign up to the cssa and nfa online, you'd have been given links to your local mp's and to groups who were orgnanizing to take the fight to parliament, hell we even created software that allowed people to submit a 'letter to the editor' to every single news paper at once, we flooded the letters sections of papers across the country. I've talked to you about this for some time now - what do i have? Can i take action? Is there something i can do? Who do i talk to? Where can i get more specific information? I've got nothing. So i'll do nothing. Enjoy your pity party. Come talk to me if you really want' to know how to fix things.

Then quit being cowards and DO something. ORGANIZE. Between retired and active service members and their families and direct groups like the cops who would support you, even before you go to the public your numbers are into the MILLIONS. you could easily be a major factor in voting. Depending on the year there's usually about 40 battlefield ridings in canada - more than enough to make the difference between minority and majority. Get organized and target the hell out of them during an election and let it be known you'll do that every time and the party that does good things for vets gets support and the party that screwes them gets trashed. It's NOT hard. But it takes work and a bit of courage. There is NO reason at all you can't be a major political force.

So - now that i've shown that ExFlyer is a bit of an easily triggered leftist !diot - back to the main point that he and moonpie were trying to bury. We desperately need doctors and nurses and medical staff. We tend to think in terms of just doctors or nurses but really all the staff is necessary - you can't do operations without an anesthesiologist even if you have all the doctors and nurses you need. And yet - trudeau encouraged the provinces to fire the unvaxxed instead of using the other effective methods available to address the issue. And the provinces went for it. Now those people are gone and the've moved on. It has been widely reported that many others left the industry of their own accord. We should be having a discussion about that and why it was a massive mistake to prevent that kind of stupidity from happening in the future.

Wow - we haven't seen you pop that one out in a while - LOL guess he's really getting under your skin!

So you're literally sitting around fantasizing about the guy? Wow - he sure lives rent free in YOUR head doesn't he.

Well its possible - Harper didn't "Signal", he just "Did" things. And emissions plummeted under his watch. And nobody gave him an ounce of credit. He did more without making any committments than any liberal ever elected by miles. And nobody cared. So it kind of sounds like the lefties don't ACTUALLY WANT anything done about climate change. They JUST want to hear promises, they don't want to actually see results. So PP would be pretty stupid not to give the people what they're asking for. Deep down i think people know there's nothing Canada can do so they just want to FEEL like they care.

ROFLMAO - awww poor little commie girl Nothing else you can say in rebuttal is there - you know it's true and we do as well. Here's another one for you - and you really really do make me smile a lot

You throw those words around like confetti whether they fit or not. You don't care about facts - you just care about emotional arguents. EVERYBODY knows what a fraud you are. You have literally claimed all jews are nazis SEVERAL times, you frequently say ALL conservatives are fascist. You don't care if a word fits or not. Sorry -that might work with the preschoolers you usually hang out with but it's not going to fly here

Ohhh noooesss - triggered leftie is triggered LOLOL - I take it the truth upsets you. And you still havent' learned how to use google yet Maybe get a 10 year old to walk you through it slowly. Buuuut - here's some. Just this once BC - i actually understated it. Turned out they fired even more than the last time i looked https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/about-2500-health-care-workers-lost-jobs-over-refusal-to-vaccinate here's that billboard i mentioned https://www.kelownanow.com/watercooler/news/news/COVID_19/Unvaxxed_doctors_ask_for_their_jobs_back_on_billboard_on_the_Westside Now that's not all the doctors that were let go - just the ones in this group. There were many more. As for ontario you have to look at region by region. Here's a google search to get you started. But even at a glance, you can see it's into the thousands. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ontario+medical+staff+laid+suspended+refuse+vaccine&t=newext&atb=v318-1&ia=web Roughly about 10,000 workers nation wide https://tnc.news/2021/12/16/provinces-sacked-almost-10000-health-care-workers-over-vaccine-mandates/ LOL - sorry to burst your bubble - but thanks again for the opportunity to point out that I'm right and you're wrong :_ Always a joy Already posted the links. Doctors, nurses and health care workers, during the pandemic, 10,000. Wow. Well folks - that's what happens to the leftie brain when it's confronted with facts it doesn't like

Oh Wait! I never claimed it was new ! You lied about that. SHOCK! Here's a hint kiddo - if you have to lie to make a point you dont' have a very good point

it doesn't matter what comey was given. The legal community including the fbi's own people knew it was wrong and can clearly articulate why. She got off because her husband ran across the tarmac to pressure the DOJ into making the FBI do what Clinton wanted - not for legal reasons. Sorry kiddo - can't lie your way out of that.

Half of that statement is correct Nobody here respects you much kid.

Thousands actually. In bc alone 44 doctors put up a billboard saying they were willing to work and the policy was stupid and more than that were let go. Hundreds of nurses were laid off. Then they had to close or's and er's. 1200 or thereabouts doctors and nurses and medical staff in total got laid off in bc - the numbers in ontario were horrendous. Across canada the numbers are staggering. "We fired thousands of qualified people that we desperately need now because they disagreed with our political position and now people are suffering - but YOU"RE the bad guy for bringing it up!!!!!" Get your head out of your butt. The gov'ts fired shittonnes of hospital staff in the middle of a medical crisis to make a political point. And now we're completely desperate for those same hospital staff. The moral of the story is DON"T FIRE DESPERATELY NEEDED STAFF FOR A POLITICAL POSITION IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Rrrrriiiiiigggghhttt. You're an !diot kid.

Just tell them you bought some 'carbon credits' and flash them some canadian tire money. They'll go for it,

uuuuhhhh - yeah. Well that certainly made the left look better.

Y'know - reading this thread, maybe the REAL 'woke' is the friends we made along the way.

No tax and doing nothing would be way better than getting taxed for doing nothing

Nope - for me my 'manic' money goes to " We knew we were in trouble and people instinctively knew the right thing to do - everybody everywhere bought toilet paper and by god they didn't stop till the world was safe again." History is not going to look back on this as humanity's finest hour.

And why would you suggest that? It woulnd't work either. Which is probably why it's not received well. The carbon tax doesn't fight climate change. The carbon tax is just a tax for the liberals, where they keep large hunks of the money and impoverish people - the lower income people the most - and then pretend to look like a savior when they give a small portion back, and the poor people are supposed to say 'we can't afford NOT to vote for these guys - someone else will take it away", not realizing they only need it because the libs robbed them blind in the first place.

So i was right. So what's your point. So - sometime after the time i talked about something else happened. Ok - thanks for that i guess.

1 - then fix that. Demand that they look at nationalizing it or if you prefer to work on a local level get a movement going to change where people can vote. 2 - hogwash. Not to mention there's mail in ballots. And of course your premise that it's obstruction is based on the idea that every poor person and college student votes democrat which is not only false, it's stupid. 3 - sit in line and get it done and quit yer whining. It's once every four years and the dems and republicans are stuck in the same line.

One might make that argument i guess and fair enough but if others engage in it as well then the fact that he does something slightly more than others who do the same thing can't really be held as that much of a negative. If we're going to go that route we should put up a post and agree on some 'rules of engagement' for cussing each other out and only come down on those who step outside that. Otherwise he has every right to draw the line where he does as you do where you do.