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Once again you have no argument. You reduced to crying like a child and jumping up and down in anger. what a fragile little creature you are Virtually every media source and the majority of Canadians agree with me according to the papers. And they're simple reasons for that. This tax has been coming for 3 years, certainly since before trump and even Biden didn't like it. Carney knew it was a sore point and yet as late as last week he was absolutely promising that no matter what they would continue it. He had champagne his finance minister out telling the world on Friday. He budgeted this money in his election budget that he produced. He absolutely needed the billions of dollars this was going to generate. But trump waved his fist at him and within 48 hours all of that went out the window and carney completely caved without getting a single concession in return. Carney rolled over faster than chamberlain. And everybody everywhere is commenting on it. But worst of all, trump is gloating in his victory. And the reason for that is he now believes that as long as he plays tough guy carney will cave. So now he's moved on to supply management and like every bully in the world once he realizes you're going to give your lunch money over without a fight even if you do fight back in the future he's not going to give you an easy time of it. This was a horrible failure on his part and everybody understands it. Even you do, which is why you're reduced to crying and filling your diapers when people pointed out

Leading the way in virtue signaling Maybe, but they're also leading the way in pollution. Until this year they were increasing their carbon output at a rate of Canada's total output every 15 months to 18 months. Basically more than one Canada every year and a half.

We caved. And the country is taking a beating as a result. We just lost 7 billion dollars that the liberals were counting on for part of their plan I think pretty quick the country is going to be reconsidering their position. Mr elbows up is turning out to be a failure already and it's only been a few months

He caved. All the newspapers are saying it, all the pundits are saying it, trump is saying it and that's the worst because now that he thinks carney caved he's going to treat Carney worse and push for even more concessions. There's absolutely nothing strategic about this. Strategic would have been a month ago saying hey if you give us something here will reduce or eliminate the tax there. The UK got to keep their tax and struck a deal, but he thinks they're tough. He thinks carney is a pushover. Carney totally caved and now it's going to make it difficult for the next round Yeah, that would be a minority government, and a difference of a couple hundred thousand people in a population of 40 million. That is absolutely not the Canadian people saying they want the liberals to continue. That is the people saying they're willing to give the liberals a chance but they are not willing to trust the liberals with power. That's what a minority government is The liberals can do nothing without permission from one of the other parties.

Of course it matters. As much as you would prefer it this isn't a dictatorship. The liberals got a minority and they can't actually get anything done without cooperation from other parties in the house. Do you not understand how our part of the entry system works? In addition not government is going to have to be responsible to the people including the people who didn't vote for them. They got less than 50% of the vote, they don't get carb lunch to do whatever they like. And if they drive they get kicked out of the next election. And considering this is a minority and ggers isn't around to prop them up for free anymore that could can be happening fairly quickly And i'm disappointed that i have to explain to you how our parliament works. You should have learned that in school by this point.

Yeah, we lost this one and it wasn't even pretty. But carney has to pick himself up and chart a different path forward where trump is definitely going to take our lunch money. And that's bad for everyone.

Oh I don't think they'll claim it's an accident the second time. You can send them to a third party location legally.

So they're settlers.

Well the consensus seems to be that he lost his battle. that's unfortunate. The digital services tax was bad policy, but killing it now makes us look terribly weak - The Globe and Mail But the fight is a long way from over and as you say one way or another we're going to have to live with his results so let's hope he learns from it and moves on and wins the next ones. The challenge he's going to run into is that trump now believes he's weak. He's going to think that as long as he's pushy as hell he'll get what he wants out of Carney, and Carney is going to have to make some big moves and probably face some extra tough battles to force trump to think otherwise and respect him again. It's either that or just cave and take whatever deal trump is willing to leave you with which would be bad for us. I'm getting a little afraid to see what you're in numbers are going to look like. I know he was counting on this revenue and because it's retroactive this year would have produced a large amount of revenue. That's going to leave another hole to fill and that's not going to be easy. Carney might just wind up wishing he hadn't come to power right now, and he'd let pp deal with all this crap

People are not happy about him caving like the wet noodle like that: Canadians upset Carney caved to Trump over digital services tax The problem is he had his poor finance minister out in public on like Friday insisting that they would not consider resending the tax. Now champagne looks like a complete !diot and it's the second time he's been thrown under the bus. And Carney looks weak and disloyal to his people and that's becoming a running theme between this and him throwing Robertson under the bus And a few other minor incidents.

Even Biden was pissed off by it and it was causing problems and tensions between us then. A good dumb enough to go ahead to implement it you better have a pretty solid plan behind you, you have to know trump is going to come after you. The problem is he folded so quickly on this issue but now trump has already moved on to supply management and carney has nothing left in between him and that. And he absolutely can't afford to give much ground there but trump is going to grind the hell out of him because he knows in the end carney will cave

But it was the law and dogma of the time. You can't just change that now retroactively. Sorry

Actually..... she may be right. Some of those policies really might make the world a better place

. In fact if you dig into the numbers of that pole I posted it shows that one of the largest things that Canadians are proud of with regards to canada is that they're not American. Seriously one of the biggest things that makes Canadians proud is that they're not American. This is about trump in the tariffs largely

\ I said it was an old joke at the very beginning, and you have absolutely no sense of humor so you wouldn't know. Hell most of the time you can't even articulate your own thoughts

Sorry, was that word too big for you? Let's just go with "bad" then.

You must love them very much

If that were true there would be no problem today. We would own the land by right of conquest, something still to this day recognized internationally. The first nations would have no rights at all The problem is that they didn't steal the land, especially in Canada.

Trump talks about common goals and common interests all the time. Are you telling me that democratic supporters aren't interested in having a stronger economy? Are you foolish enough to believe that legitimate Latino groups are unhappy about illegals and criminals being deported? He ran on all this stuff and the Latinos voted for him in larger numbers than ever. So do the blacks especially the males. So did most of the other ethnic groups. It is Biden and Kamala and obama who have tried to divide Americans. Obama came up with the intersectional coalition, were you literally split smaller groups aside and then frighten them into voting for you to stop the white cis people. Racism and racially related crimes went up tremendously under those Presidents. The only thing that went up during trump's time was race riots driven by the democrats. And here in Canada the liberals have been the most divisive party in our entire history for the last 10 years. Their entire time in office was an exercise in turning one group against the other, who are against the rich, christian against Muslim, Religious against atheist, vaxxed against unvaxed, rich against poor, east against west, Straight against gays etc etc And yet you support them. So are you saying that you're an ídiot?

Quebec would have a rough go of it, largely because they would trip over their own feet. The Atlantics would not be able to survive on their own that's true. Ontario could and the western provinces could There's more than enough wealth to support Canadians in their old age especially in the west. You have to remember that Currently almost all of the western provinces contribute far more than they take in income taxes, subsidizing old age care would be a piece of cake if we weren't paying to fund many of the easts programs. And you also have to remember we would have a tiny percentage of the debt. Assuming that the debt was divvied up based on population more than half of it current federal debt would remain with Ontario and Quebec. Western provinces would barely have 30 to 40% of the debt and would be in position to pay it off much easier and with the exception of BC we're provinces generally are less burdened by debt as well. Things would be tough in the east. Ontario would have a rough go because a lot of its activity is subsidized by western Exploitation that would no longer be there. But they hobble along. Quebec would be in real Trouble In The Atlantics would be stuck. None of which would be the west's problem anymore.

What the hell does that have to do with eV manufacturing? Oh, right. You lost that argument embarrassingly and this is where you try and change the subject and pretend we were never talking about that. My mistake, i'll play along. Robinson did not disclose as he was supposed to. If he continues to refuse to it'll be criminal but that doesn't change the fact he hasn't and should have. Further when asked direct simple straightforward question he evaded the question and refused to give an answer. There's no doubt he's hiding something because he hit something. So that leaves us to motive. The motive is pretty clear, he's in charge of housing and he is aware that there are people who are going to claim that because he has tens of millions of dollars of real estate holdings he will not pursue policies that are going to see the cost of housing come down. That is why he is hiding the truth. Anybody with an IQ in the triple digits can see that. More importantly he does not want the supply to dictate the price. What both he and the prime minister have claimed is that they want to dictate the price for very select certain first time buyers and allow the pricing for everyone else to remain high. Which is a nice idea but it's absolutely impossible to achieve, at least with any kind of sustained success Basically he wants prices to be low and high at the same time. Welcome to the Schrodinger Mortgage Company So once again you seem to be wrong across the board. If he was an honest man and the liberals were honest people you should have come forward when this came up and told the truth and been able to address the question of how he can be impartial when he has so much wealth tied up in real estate. If he can't answer that, then carney needs to explain why he's housing minister.

You were the one who brought your kids up

No. We are not. We are negotiating with a bully with a massive ego. He's not a toddler in the slightest. But more to the point we knew that before the election. And Carney who has knowledge of trump and in fact already deals with his family in business new perfectly well what kind of person Donald Trump was. And he said he could handle it. He said he would be elbows up and protecting Canada. We just lost 7 to 10 billion dollars. That's real money. Carney absolutely lied about being able to have trump and all he's doing is capitulating to him

Again you have no rebuttal and no point. Try not being an uneducated twat. LOL mind you it's always funny to watch you scuttle like mad to get under the nearest rock when you can't make an argument So tell me oh angry one.... was it all the facts and links i provided that proved you wrong that upset you? or was it just that you realized i was right and if this was working there'd be no subsidies? I'm just curious which bit of fact or reason drove you over the edge this time?

We would but they left! NOBODY saw that coming....