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Until Indigenous pay taxes like everyone else or collect their own taxes to pay for their own health and education, they will remain a kept people. That’s just the way it goes. Either demonstrate true self-sustainability or pay the cost of your upkeep by paying into the system. Everyone with a brain sees the two-tier citizenship and the dependency the Indian Act and reserve system creates, yet it’s the Indigenous who want to keep it. Stoke the past injustice narratives, demand more money. Keep needling Canada, but the price of this game is never breaking the cycle of dependence.

I think this is the problem for Canada: We are essentially a boutique country where our taxpayers and productivity take a hit for being a kind of welfare state for preferred identity groups. Quebec will shoot itself in the foot economically to maintain its fascist language laws and treating the rest of Canada like a foreign country. The Indigenous leaders will maintain their culture of dependence to benefit themselves at the expense of the economic and mental wellbeing of their populations. Canada will be held back economically to satisfy these identity lobbies. Canada is a socialist cultural protectorate where some groups are propped up at everyone else’s expense. I guess Canadians will decide whether this is worth maintaining. It’s annoying.

Bonkers.

Canadians need to understand that country will only survive and thrive by winning the ideological war against people with views like Herbie’s. His ilk are destroying the country.

The Chinese have been buying up land around American bases for a while. They have thousands of students and presumably agents in the US. This is what the Israelis did to Iran: "We established a drone base inside Iran, and at zero hour, Mossad operatives retrieved them from hiding spots. We placed precision missiles on numerous vehicles and embedded additional missiles throughout the country, hidden inside rocks. We activated this entire array in precise coordination with the Israeli air force." Israeli jets launched simultaneous strikes on dozens of sites, including Iran’s primary uranium enrichment facility at Natanz. Located 1,500 kilometers from Israeli territory, Natanz had long been a critical part of Iran’s nuclear program. Brig. Gen. Effie Defrin, the Israeli Defense Forces spokesperson, described it as an underground compound containing multi-level centrifuge halls and electrical infrastructure. Chinese jets can't exactly scoot into the US undetected from a bajillion km away, but a wide-scale attack on US bases and infrastructure could possibly be carried out. It would likely include cyber and energy weapons as well. Maybe even another round of bioweapons from Wuhan, which seemed particularly impactful. Oh, and no doubt they'd store weapons in Canada too, Trudeau might have even helped them.

Natives aren't native, they were the 1st of many waves of people that came here. They lost it fair and square. Just like the whites are losing it now.

Well if CHARLIE said it.. 🙄🙄 That guy used to actually be pretty respectable but in the last decade or thereabouts he's kind of slid downhill. I think he's doing the right thing stepping down.

Oh dear. 3 posts and he's melting down already Kid you've been bawling your eyes out since the libs won and nobody can figure it out, and i'm far from the only one to notice (although i am the one who probably rubs your nose in it the most' ) And you're STILL crying I don't get the left. When conservatives win we're mildly happy and pleased. When we lose we're mildly disappointed then move on and get ready for the next one. YOU win and you're completely distraught and inconsolable for over a month, throwing hissy fits and making repetitive posts about how dumb it is to be repetative! I guess as a person you're just not used to success or something

Too bad. It's the legal term that is designated for people that are not in the country legally. Edit: this is a prime example of a liberal using the feeling a word (or phrase) elicits rather than the actual definition

Dumb enough to think they have to be are you? Never had a federal NDP govt but we got our medical plan, child & maternity care, unemployment reforms, dental, partial pharmacare with only a few seats. As far as how it's goin' here? We got public car insurance w lower rates than you, protected farmlands for over 50 years, shitloads of parks and protected lands, no more tolls, better roads, an inventory of our forest resources and a growing economy and population. Some whiney negativist convince you otherwise?

All you've explained is that at any cost you support terrorists. Anything else is just lies that you come up with to support that

Another lie. The issue is not with my understanding of the word, its that you use it vaguely and refuse to explain exactly what you are talking about.

If they entered illegally then they are all criminals. This is so simple. If people believe they should be allowed to be here then pass the laws to make it absolutely legal for them to be here. If the laws say that it's not legal for them to be here or they have no lawful excuse then remove them A commodore 64 has enough computing power to work this out. Right now the law says they have no lawful excuse and they're being removed. Which is how it should be. If people disagree with that law then they need to pass new laws that say it is legal and explain how and why. But if you just start ignoring laws you don't like then you ruin the entire concept of laws in the first place and all you get is people deciding which laws they're going to obey and which ones they're not and that ends in disaster

LOL says the guy who's been literally crying since the libs won the election for some reason I take it that it upset you when that was pointed out so now you're trying to say that about others in the hopes it upsets them? And we're meant to believe you're an adult.

Not if you're trying to protect and save your family. You are dumb. If you were in their shoes, you would be doing the same thing. There are many people who came in that way over the past 50 years and work in the U.S. The world is an imperfect place and people have to be dealt with in a reasonable way, not like a fascist. They're not criminals as you falsely claim.

I was replying to herbie, but seeing as you took the time to respond.... I decided read your post to the sound of Greensleeves, thought it could maybe improve the inane content, but alas no such luck.

If you want to be a fascist, you can say that. But you don't understand that is how people from places like central and south America have immigrated to the U.S. probably for the last 50 or 100 years or more. They are not well educated. Maybe very little education and don't know anything about American federal law. So you are talking into thin air. That is not how the real world worked for the past 100 years in the U.S. I have told you many times, they place the safety and well-being of their families first and don't know anything about the technicalities of laws in Washington. You really need to get educated. Millions came to America in the past 50 years, not in the last four years under Biden. They have worked and filled jobs in agriculture, hotels, etc. that nobody else would take. That's just how they survived. This happened under previous Republican and Democratic governments for many decades and no real solution has been found.

No, I am quite familiar with the ignorant arguments folks like you make.

I generally agree and I think that anyone who knows the facts would also agree. The question is how to turn this segment of society from a burden into an asset, not just for Canada but for themselves. No doubt there are successful Indigenous and successful bands, but not enough. This is very much a Canadian, Australian, and New Zealand problem. The Americans simply decided a long time ago that this is what we’re willing to accept and if you don’t like it, too bad, assimilate like everyone else. It’s actually a selling feature for Canada joining the U.S.. I don’t think the Americans understand how much of a hassle and expense the Indigenous file is in Canada. Quebec is also a strain. Nevertheless, Canadians so far are up for managing it. I don’t think the Yanks would be nearly as sympathetic.

I think it’s a creative solution that certainly moves the needle closer to autonomy. I still think that the government needs to get out of the business of having an Indigenous Affairs Department and budget, whatever that is now. A kind of final settlement needs to happen. No one is going to take away the reserves and reservations. Probably the status cards will have to be maintained only to determine who gets to stay on the reserve so to speak, but the tax exemption should actually be a tax swap, meaning that if you don’t pay the feds, you must pay the rez. Gradually, but ideally quickly, that health and education expense should shift to the reserve and paid through local tax collection. This effectively turns reserves into their own provinces, except that locals won’t have to pay federal taxes if they pay the rez. Yes some will leave the rez permanently and live and pay taxes to the Feds and provinces like the rest of us, but there’s always the option for holders of status to move back. If you think that all status holders should receive an annual amount of money like an annuity, in addition to what I’ve said, I think that’s going to maintain the dependency, because presumably someone can live in free housing on the reserve, collect the annuity, and never have to earn an income. I think that’s an unhealthy moral hazard that leads to intergenerational welfare recipients living in publicly funded housing. It will always be a sad kind of subsistence. Indigenous do need to be able to benefit from the resources under their dedicated lands, but they also shouldn’t be able unilaterally shut down interprovincial projects. If there must be a permanent annual annuity, it should be taxed by the Rez/feds to pay for local health and education, so that it’s clear to everyone that this money is coming from Canadian taxpayers. We may be stuck with the annuity, but it shouldn’t be big enough to allow someone to be a total loafer. The Indigenous population is actually a growing population and the expenses to taxpayers are growing, especially as the settler colonial narrative of victimhood is retold, often involving unverifiable events and people who aren’t alive today. That financial burden is paid by people who had nothing to do with those events. There’s another big piece to this puzzle that impacts all Canadians, which is that we may all have to end up on an annual annuity or Universal Basic Income as automation and A.I. makes jobs redundant, so maybe the reform of Indigenous Affairs can coincide with the implementation of UBI, such that everyone gets enough free money to subsist and can supplement the amount with income from employment. Beyond a certain income level it starts to get clawed back. That might effectively end the two tier citizenship of the Indian Act without taking away the reserves or status. However, the moral hazard of becoming a loafer will remain. Perhaps every society faces this hazard. Some work hard and are motivated to be productive. Others do little with what’s handed to them, and in fairness, some are handed more than others. There’s probably no avoiding this stratification, though some funding formulas probably do instil more drive and motivation than others. Tough but important questions…

Latest updates on Israel-Islamic Republic war from the sources in Tehran Some reports saying that Natanz nuclear facilities (the biggest among a dozen) is completely destroyed. Unfortunately many Iranian civilians have been killed as well. I saw their pictures and my heart is bleeding while I was cheering when I saw the pictures of 20 Islamic Republic top officials who have been sent to hell. 3 of those civilians were famous athletes and one was a martial art expert boy. Three Israeli civilians also killed during the Islamic Republic missiles attack on civilian targets. The regime of Islamic Republic has warned the nation that any gathering or demonstration against the regime will be dealt with severely and some reports saying that security forces are ordered to shoot on spot. Many Iranians went to rooftops and cheering incoming Israeli missiles targeting Islamic Republic military and political targets and shouting Death to Khamenei. Victory to Iran Down with Islamic Republic

Trump's focus for deportations has largely been criminals, including in LA. Looks like he's pointing that out and saying he's not going to deport all illegals, which he hasn't been doing anyways. Maybe this is his way of trying to quell some of the uproar in LA.

There are a long list of lies that you have knowingly told, this has to be the most disgusting.

I guess it takes all kinds to make a village, what is becoming obvious is you've taken up cheerleading for terrorist in the land of the free, considering so many Americans have fought in the war on terror.... ...Just how do your fellow americans think of all this behavior, i'm thinking your very popular in some strange way...

Just to clarify, we sent all we could to Afghanistan, at the peak it was 2 battle groups, for those of you who don't know what a battle group is...it is 2000 to 3000 personal...or half a brigade group....and we could not sustain that for long...so for the most part it was one small battle group....and we struggled to meet those commitments...and that came at a cost , with some soldiers doing 8 tours out of the 13 years we were there with the average soldier doing at least 3 to 4...and todays army is what is the result of those deployments... So yes we did show up, we contributed the very minimum we could,and Canadian soldiers paid the price while our government and citizens conveniently forgot about us,which meant little money, and very little in investments into equipment and in training...Most if not all that was accomplished over there came out of the military's budget...or the blood sweat and tears of our soldiers, airmen, sailors...Not Canada's finest hour, it was our military that carried that flag from start to finish....

I have 'skin' in this game. It's darker than yours.

Foreigner with a messiah complex . . . the bus is waiting.

Never, ever will there be a 'settelment' . . . Indians feed the 'cash cow' a hand full of straw, milk it forever. You're a dreamer.

You're arguing with someone still bleating about "vax fascism" as if they were capable of reason. That mind calcified long ago and is incapable of learning anything at all. 4 consecutive election losses, concludes that everyone else must be stupid is a shining example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

Unfortunately it seems you don't understand that people, documented or undocumented, have certain rights in the U.S. and Canada. Those are Constitutional rights and legal rights. What you are supporting is something like Hitler's Naziism or Stalin's Communism. Those systems did not recognize human rights of any kind and just crushed everyone they wished. BE CAREFUL FOR WHAT YOU WISH FOR. Loss of human rights and Constitutional rights may be coming sooner than you think.

If you've been paying attention you'd know that Trump has been chipping away at immigration courts and trying to bypass them entirely. The whole point of due process in a law-based society is to prevent capricious behavior by those in power. If person can be arrested, declared illegal, declared a gang member etc and then immediately sent off to a concentation camp in a foreign puppet dictatorship, that's what no due process looks like and is fairly close to the current situation.

That is the stupidest thing I think I have ever heard from you. quote What is due process? A core principle of the U.S. government is that all people have the right to fair treatment under the law. Due process of law, enshrined in the Fifth and 14th Amendments, requires the government to provide a person with notice and an opportunity to make their case in court before depriving them of life, liberty, or property. Due process protects us from the arbitrary exercise of government power. It is the reason that police and prosecutors must prove that they had probable cause to arrest a person, that the government cannot arbitrarily cut off someone’s public housing or food assistance, and that civil court processes must be followed before the state can terminate a parent’s rights. Are immigrants entitled to due process when facing deportation? Yes. The Fifth and 14th Amendments’ due process clauses protect every person within U.S. borders, regardless of immigration status. The Supreme Court recently reaffirmed this, ruling that immigrants facing deportation under the Alien Enemies Act are entitled to the opportunity to challenge the legality of their detention before removal. The Court cited its ruling in Reno v. Flores, a 1993 case where Justice Antonin Scalia wrote, “it is well established that the Fifth Amendment entitles [immigrants] to due process of law.” This means that a person accused of being in the country without authorization should have the right to a fair trial in immigration court. People should have a chance to see and challenge the evidence against them. This can prevent harmful injustices and the unchecked use of government power to detain, deport, and disappear people—many of whom are seeking safety and may have the right to stay rooted in their community. Has the immigration system ever ensured immigrants due process? Unfortunately, in practice, deprivations of due process have long been routine and have occurred on a massive scale in our immigration legal system—leading to many examples of gross miscarriages of justice. People facing deportation are not entitled to a court-appointed attorney if they cannot afford one. This differs from criminal court, where the Sixth Amendment of the Constitution guarantees all people the right to an attorney whether they can afford one or not. Legal representation is expensive, and far too many people in immigration court face deportation proceedings without an attorney to protect their rights. In fact, an estimated 70 percent of people held in immigration detention on deportation cases opened in the past three years are unrepresented in their proceedings. Because immigration law is notoriously complex, many people who could have established a legal right to remain in the United States with the help of an attorney are instead deported to countries where they face real danger. Legal representation is fundamental to delivering due process. Lawyers serve as a critical check on claims made by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), ensuring that the government is following the rules and accurately interpreting the law. For example, lawyers frequently find that U.S. citizens have been unlawfully detained by ICE or that green card holders may face detention based on ICE’s erroneous application of the law. They identify when someone has legal relief from deportation and help people—including children, people who have mental health conditions, and Indigenous language speakers with limited translators available—present complex claims for the judge to consider. In a new threat to due process, the Trump administration is bypassing immigration courts to deport people without a fair hearing. President Trump’s mass detention and deportation agenda significantly escalates threats to due process by claiming that immigrants are not entitled to due process or a hearing at all. Trump has gone so far as to say that “you can’t have a trial for all of these people,” referring to immigrants facing separation from their families and expulsion to countries where they may face dangerous circumstances. President Trump issued executive orders early in his second term that bypass immigration courts in many instances by expanding expedited removal, a process that allows the Department of Homeland Security to detain and deport someone without a hearing before an immigration judge. Although past administrations also used this policy, the Trump administration has supercharged the harm by expanding who is subjected to it and deploying significant resources to deport people without going through the court system. In mid-March, President Trump invoked the wartime Alien Enemies Act of 1798 to allow his administration to deport people who are accused—oftentimes with little or no evidence—of being associated with the Venezuela-based Tren de Aragua gang without giving them the opportunity to appear before a judge. Hundreds of people, most with no criminal record, have been sent to Centro de Confinamiento del Terrorismo (CECOT)— a Salvadoran prison with a history of human rights abuses—without the opportunity to defend themselves against the accusations or to prove they have the legal right to remain in the United States. In many cases, the government’s accusations rest on nothing beyond innocuous tattoos honoring family and soccer. Andry Hernandez Romero, an asylum seeker from Venezuela whose tattoos depict crowns over the words “mom” and “dad,” was deported to CECOT with no chance to defend himself in court. Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia, a Maryland father with protected legal status, was also wrongfully deported and placed in CECOT. Although the Trump administration has since admitted Abrego Garcia’s deportation was an “administrative error,” it has made no effort to return him to his family. Frustrated by the Supreme Court’s affirmation that immigrants targeted under the Alien Enemies Act have a right to challenge their detention through a writ of habeas corpus, the Trump administration is reportedly considering suspending access to habeas corpus—an extraordinary measure that is only permitted “in cases of rebellion or invasion.” For those in immigration court, the Trump administration has made it even harder to access legal counsel. Even people who are not subjected to expedited removal will face an immigration court system with a significantly undermined ability to provide even a minimum of due process. The Trump administration’s expanded use of detention and rapid deportations will drastically reduce the likelihood that people will be able to secure legal representation to help them navigate their case. Lawyers and the immigrant defense infrastructure that has grown over decades to protect immigrants’ rights has also come under attack. Trump has issued an executive order accusing immigration attorneys of fraud and threatening them with investigations and sanctions. He has also gutted funding for critical legal services that help people facing detention and deportation. The U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) ordered legal service providers to cease work on critical programs including the Legal Orientation Program, the Immigration Court Helpdesk, the Family Group Legal Orientation Program, the Counsel for Children Initiative, and the National Qualified Representative Program—which represents people in detention who a judge has determined cannot competently represent themselves because of mental illness. The Office of Refugee Resettlement has also canceled the Unaccompanied Children Program, which was representing 26,000 children who arrived to the United States without a parent. The cancellation of these bipartisan-supported, longstanding, and successful programs is being contested in litigation. Nevertheless, threats to these programs leave hundreds of thousands of people—including children—without access to the basic legal information and representation necessary to navigate complex court processes. It has also forced layoffs of hundreds of committed and experienced nonprofit legal services staff, weakening a growing field that has already struggled to meet the overwhelming demand for services. The Trump administration has further proposed record funding for an unprecedented expansion of immigration detention by using federal prisons, military bases, the detention facility in Guantánamo Bay. None of these facilities are set up to house people who need routine access to counsel to prepare for court proceedings, adding even greater barriers for people targeted for deportation to find and communicate with an attorney. Finally, Trump has fired or laid off dozens of immigration judges and court staff at a time when the immigration court backlog is at historic highs and he seeks to put even more people through deportation hearings. The remaining judges face even larger dockets, with directives from DOJ requiring them to terminate certain asylum claims without a hearing and consider more cases at a faster pace, resulting in an expedited process that deprives people of a meaningful opportunity to be heard. Due process is essential. The Constitution and our constitutional system apply to all people in the United States, regardless of where they were born. At a bare minimum, people facing deportation should be able to understand what they are accused of and be able to examine and challenge evidence, in a language they understand, alongside a trained advocate who can decipher complex immigration laws. Due process is essential to safeguard our country’s fundamental democratic values as we work to advance immigration policies that respect fairness, family unity, and human dignity. unquote What Does “Due Process” Mean for Immigrants and Why Is It Important? | Vera Institute

It's not a war crime in the slightest if what you're trying to do is deny food resources to enemy combatants. Hamas intercepts those food deliveries and it perpetuates the war. It is 100% legitimate to withhold the food until you can resolve that. And the Israelis have been working on ways to do just that. Sorry, that was a miss. Did you have any other war crimes?

Meltdown?? LOL, You use that term so much it has lost meaning. No meltdown when only facts are presented to you...except for you that have a meltdown every time facts smack you in the face LOL You just hate the facts Eh LOL Fact is conservatives lost the last 4 elections and even their leader lost his seat. Trudeau quit...it is over,.... time for you to get over him too LOL Yup...he did not run...he knew when it was over...not like PP who clings on LOL Fact is, they may have hated Trudeau but the liberals knew when it was time for someone new and got him and he won. The conservatives are going to stick with a LOSER LOL LOL and there you go Even before the elections Canadians deemed Carney and the Liberals better for Canada than PP and the conservatives https://www.ipsos.com/en-ca/carney-seen-best-leader-represent-canada-navigate-tough-economic-times After the election https://abacusdata.ca/abacus-data-poll-optimism-direction-of-country-canada/ Carney and the Liberals win...each time.

Dislike Trudeau all your want but, the conservatives have had 4 leaders, 4 platforms and 4 trys at becoming government and they failed each time. So, the fact you don't think the libs did anything (or anything you liked), the rest of Canada did. Oh and the fact you have a 4 colour photo of your hero as your avatar tells me you are a closet Trudeau lover LOL

Yup, after 10 years...they still won n election for another 4+ because the conservatives had nothing to give. The Canadian pubic decided LOL Oh and, excuses, excuses, excuses ...blame the MSM instead of the failing conservative leadership and policies.:) Oh and, "Being and Ex Canadian since April 2025" and you still have Justin Trudeau as your avatar.... you must be a closet Justin lover LOL

Why do you keep on crying. Clearly the Canadian public chose someone that had the most credibility. Carney "axed the tax" before he even called the election LOL Proving he is not Trudeau. No one, except a few dedicated groupies on this forum care where the policies came from. Canadians chose who they thought was best for Canada and themselves and clearly, it was not Polievere and the conservatives for the 4th time. The previous 3 conservatives leaders lost Maybe it is because the conservatives have no credibility in the eyes of Canadians LOL I seem to have credibility and a higher IQ than most of the people that chose the conservatives and Polievere...because I and most Canadians chose Liberal...for the 4th time, hence, the Liberals won again. So...keep on licking your wounds, blaming everyone else and crying about your loss...it will not change anything. Conservatives have done it to themselves ...again. For the 4th time, the conservatives are in second place. Also, once again, if you are in fact an "Ex Canadian since April 2025" why give a shit? Or is it that poor losers bail out LOL

Who ever said or told you the dental assistance was "100% free"? LOL Get your information form valid sources, not social media LOL What is covered? "The Canadian Dental Care Plan (CDCP) will help pay a portion of the cost for a wide range of oral health care services." https://www.canada.ca/en/services/benefits/dental/dental-care-plan/coverage.html

Who ever cared about the NDP except BCers??? Conservatives deflecting to sad sack NDP is about as petty as they can get LOL. Are you trying to justify your conservative party and leader failure after 10 years of liberal rule?? You cannot, you failed again. You. folks gotta look inside your own party, not make excuses and trying to deflect. You need a real leader....but no, you gonna stick with Polievere.... LOL What about the Greenies? Or Peoples Party of Canada? Or even the Rhinoceros Party?

Again, this is still your same dumb BS argument, you are now having it with yourself.

Ha Ha Ha. You conservative second placers. Who are you trying to convince of your failed position in Canadian politics for the past 10+ years and the 4+ years to come??? "Inane content"? When smacked with reality you deflect again. "I wasn't talking to you so don't talk to me?" LOL

Ha Ha Ha The LOSER speaks At least you agree the Liberals won Also, I never said anything about folks being thrilled about the past 10 years...what i have been saying an will say is that the conservatives have not a had a leader or a policy to win in the past 10 years LOL Get back to me when you are past the denial stage LOL

Oh I see you are still in stage 1. ...denial. Anger is the next phase and I can see you slipping nito it soon LOL Success?? Oh, you mean when the Liberals blew the conservatives away from a 28 point lead election win?? Like they have for the previous 3 elections and 4 leaders?? LOL Oh, I am used to success...the Liberals won...that is success. You? Oh yeah, you need to deal with failure I am the one rubbing your nose in the conservative party shit pile LOL. Smell the odour of failure??? Keep on keeping on but history has already shown your party as LOSERS LOL

Who cared??? They were going to lose long before Trudeau quit and Carney was selected. The NDP was only in it to collect their pension and everyone knew it. Had the NDP forced an election back in October, Trudeau and the Libs would have lost big time but...they did not and the cons completely collapsed. Can't blame the NDP for the total failure of the conservative party and Polievere. LOL