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it's not a question of forgiveness per se the problem in Canada is that the political elites are never held responsible for anything for example the Somalia Affair where the government illegally administered a drug to the Airborne Regiment which incited the unit to suffer from psychosis en masse, resulting in catastrophe the government then launched an "inquiry" which was simply used as a mechanism to cover up the crimes and protect senior officials from a reckoning when I was young and naive. I honestly trusted the government I trusted that public officials were trying to do the right thing but after Somalia, I could never trust the government again so I can certainly forgive anybody who asserts that Canada is not to be trusted when it comes to enforced medical procedures

He's a drunk criminal with no honour who lied about his achievements and has lost the respect of his peers again and again. Yeah - looking at you i can see it.

And they've been sued for it. More than once. they and NBC have deliberately altered footage and presented "facts" they know to be untrue in order to create stories. Not just 'got a story wrong' or the like. Or came to a different conclusion over the evidence. But actually made up a story AND CREATED SUPPORTING "EVIDENCE". We saw it with the christian school kids and with treyvon etc etc.

I think he is trans-political. He identifies as a conservative.

Oh look. The self-proclaimed "Conservative" is siding with the Libbies...again. Mike...come out of the closet.

As per usual. There is almost zero political value to publicly discussing or debating actual economics. Might as well be Greek to most voters. Nobody wants to end up like poor Ross Perot with his charts. So we'll get a lot of campaign nonsense--a lot of it cynical nonsense for 100 more days and then economic advisors will try to quietly move actual levers with things like CHIPS and the poorly named (but long term great) Inflation Reduction Act.

You guys can't decide whether the virus is dangerous or innocuous. I guess it depends which meme you saw last.

Healthcare is in the top 3 of concerns for Americans. For you Canadians, here's how it works in the US. Through my employer I pay about $1500 per month to an insurance corporation for a mediocre family health insurance plan. In the event that i need some kind of medical treatment, I must pay about $5000 out of my own pocket before the insurance pays anything. It doesnt cover dental or many eye expenses. Increase in these insurance costs has been steady and linear for many decades. To try to address this, in 2010 democrats passed the ACA, which required everyone to buy insurance, created a subsidized insurance marketplace for lower income people, and made many very popular restrictions on what insurance corporations can no longer do to their insurance customers. Meanwhile, since the 1960s through Medicare, older Americans (who are mostly republican, by the way) can just go to the doctor and the government pays for most of it. This is the model that most democrats would like to see expanded for everyone. In 2010 democratic party leaders went with an existing republican market-based plan in a doomed hope of getting some of them on board with the legislation. Since 2010, the ACA is widely appreciated for what it does do, but it has shortcomings. Republicans have long vowed to end the ACA. When they controlled the entire congress and the presidency from 2016-2018 they had an easy pathway for doing anything they want to do to change or improve healthcare, but did not do so. They attempted a straight repeal of the ACA, it failed, and that was it. Today, the republican platform has just this minimal and vague 3-sentence statement on the subject of healthcare: Is it now safe to say that Republicans have no major ambitions for trying to do anything with Healthcare?

They absolutely did. They settled with sandman reported to be in the tens of millions, they've settled with others for millions as well, Why is everything you say wrong? Don't you look ANY of this stuff up?

It's not the discussion Mike. It's that you consistently oppose current conservative positions.

The"party" murdered an Indian??? Michael, Michael, Michael, your dislike of Ford clouds your mind LOL

Back during the lockdowns a group of us geriatrics met every couple of days sometimes as little as 4 or as high as 22 for breakfast at someone's house or a hike in the woods just to get out, One day whist on a hike we were approached by a park warden (uniformed nitwit) and told to put on masks and leave the area immediately. Nobody moved so he became more aggressive an wanted our names and addresses which caused all of us close in and laugh. He then threatened to call the police so we closed in more. The look of panic on his face was magic. He hurried away and tripped over a tree root. Made our day. Went back many more times, never saw the guy again.

I absolutely agree. There is a lot of needless demonizing of opponents. It is also pretty easy to get people to just not care about the misfortune experienced by large segments of one's own society who they don't actually see. But 100% of the politically minded people I know IRL of either party are quick to care about actual problems of others who are right in front of them. I made about $73k US last year and paid about $14k in state and federal taxes (including Medicare and Social Security tax). Then i paid about $24k to health insurance per year ($18k out of my pocket and $6k contributed by employer as an employee benefit). So that's $38k in taxes and health insurance out of $79k in compensation. At my income level, if I lived in, say, Ontario, and we convert that $79k to your monopoly money (1:1.37), I would be making $108,000. According to the ontario income tax calculator on turbotax, my total Canadian taxes would be $29,229 ($16k federal, 8k provincial, 5k CPP/EI). By comparison, the taxes+health insurance I pay in the US is equal to $52k in canadian dollars. And a third of my health spending is just going to corporate shareholders and not to anyones healthcare. If i have a complaint I have to deal with corporate lawyers rather than dealing with a government service where I have clear rights as a citizen. As far as wait times, I guess I'd need to see how big of a problem that is in canada. I live in a place in the US that is considered to have really good health services available, but if I need to go to a specialist like an endocrinologist or dermatologist for any non-urgent reason, the wait is often like 3-6 months. But my mom is on chemo right now and there is big big money to be made with that, so they started that up for her within a few days of her cancer diagnosis.

no I took all the Yugoslavia vaccines for Op Harmony and Mefloquine wasn't one of them Mefloquine is a pill, comes in a four pack like Viagra, so you would know if you were taking it it's not a one shot, you have to keep taking the pills, once a week but it's an anti Malaria drug, so it's only proscribed for tropical environments troops in the Airborne Regiment knew they were taking some experimental malaria drug and they knew it was making everybody go crazy but there was nothing they could do about it, since this was being ordered from on high if you refused to take the pill ? then you'd be kicked off the tour, sent home to Canada in disgrace and Paratroopers just ain't going to do that, they are not abandoning the mission, come what may

The US military also regularly experiments with its troops and drugs. The pandemic in the US was not under the direction of the CDC or the FDA or public health entities. It was under the direction of the DoD. This came out during the Brooke Jackson Pfizer whistleblower court proceedings. She whistleblew about the fake trials and lack of safety testing at Ventavia, who Pfizer had supposedly hired to oversee the trials. In court, Pfizer said they were under the direction of the DoD (and paid handsomely) and that safety testing and trials were NOT part of the contract requirements, therefore they are not accountable for anything. The DoD confirmed this and Pfizer won the case based on this point. (Jackson's case is being appealed now on other grounds.) The trials were a sham, shoddily done just to create the appearance of "safety" for the public. The FDA bowed to the DoD for approval of the injections but it was also just for show. They were going to get FDA approval no matter what. The military signs waivers to let the gov't experiment on them. The public did not. They were testing compliance, how to make people comply using psychological warfare. We lost. So now that the public just handed over their medical rights, and after decades of just experimenting on soldiers, they can experiment on everybody. It's why they're trying to create another pandemic. Bird flu, monkey pox, Disease X..... It doesn't matter, as long as the public buys it and complies.

Sunny ways.

Well there are two "things" that every dictator and despot everywhere seems to run on. The first is Hope/Joy and the other is fear/hate. When hitler was running he had himself photo'd with children who all surrounded him adoringly while he gazed hopefully into their future and that was his posters. Then he'd give speeches about how horrible the jews/commies/redheads were. (I added in the redheads bit but am i wrong? am i???) Chairman mao was the same. He had his people say that voting for him would bring you joy and then he'd have posters of him leading the charge against the enemies etc. Every single 'enviornmental' or animal rights group or activist group does the same - talk in terms of hatred and then in terms of the joy people will feel if they join to beat the evil (with only a 19.l95 per month donation!) So right now her campaign is very much a "laugh along with Kamala" and "feel the joy" campaign and then she'll try to focus it on "hate trump - he wants to buy your puppies to make a coat".

It's not surprising in the least and I appointed this out in excruciating detail with charts and maps for hodad before. The economy has the appearance of humming along because Joe Biden spent an insane amount of money to create that impression. Government spending has stimulated the economy and makes it look like it's performing well on paper. But the byproduct of that kind of stimulation and fake economy is always inflation. Which we saw. And the problem is the moment you stop propping it up there is a collapse. Biden keeps talking about a soft landing, So even he admits there's going to be a correction. Whether it is soft or hard we will have to see, it will depend on other factors. But no, the economy has not done well. It just looks that way on paper. And that is why people are having such a tough time making ends meet. And they look around and they realize this and that's why they are not happy about bidenomics. By dynamics is a hoax

Good idea. You should talk to a professional about your alternate realities.

The dialogue usually goes like this: "Trudeau is a Marxist" Me: "What are your reasons for saying that?" "Ok, then, YOU'RE A MARXIST YOU MARXIST" I've explained my beliefs in our nation's institutions make me defacto conservative but a lot of people on here can't stand the idea of discussion.

This is the kind of thing that she's going to have to avoid like the plague, because it will force her to appear in public to defend her policies And she just doesn't do well away from the teleprompter. Trump's new attack ads and it's well done.

Trudeau leaves fifth unanswered voicemail offering to endorse Kamala Harris - The Beaverton Politics, U.S. Trudeau leaves fifth unanswered voicemail offering to endorse Kamala Harris 12 hours ago by Ian MacIntyre ( @mrianmacintyre )

Yeah plus the tuned-out rejects who after this many years still have no opinion about f*cking Donald trump aren't going to now finally be won over to either side by detailed economic policy.

Of course you would! Look at how badly you JUST reacted to facts! You can't watch anything that actually has facts in it or you'll lose your mind

I'm sorry. I had to block CdnFox. He was getting on my nerves.

For what it's worth, I'm not hearing the Democrats or the Republicans say or propose anything useful about the economy. They are both pandering to dumb ideas that their bases want to hear, and they are both being deceptive about the economic ups and downs of the last 4 years. Republicans can't get honest about post-covid inflation, and democrats can't get honest about the post-covid recovery.

Canada has been in short supply of Doctors, Nurses, lab techs, etc years before COVID. In addition, very few people with a degree in any type of medical field that explains viruses (doctors, nurses, etc) were fired. My guess is less than 50. Just because you are of the opinion that casual workers in health care (janitors, food service workers, etc) are "medical professionals", does not make it so. The vast majority of workers terminated had little to no medical knowledge.

Once again, you lie. Janitors, security guards, and kitchen staff are NOT medical professionals. They are support staff at hospitals. There are 3 certainties in life- death, taxes, and CdnFox lying.

2500 medical professionals were not fired in BC for refusing the get the vaccine. Period. My guess is you used this article to come to that conclusion. The majority — approximately two-thirds — of those fired in four of the five regional health authorities were casual workers, not permanent full- or part-time workers, the numbers show. What you fail to comprehend, is nearly all of those workers were NOT medical professionals. They worked in health care, but almost all were manual labourers- security guards, dishwashers, janitors, etc. not medical professionals. Once again, you left this out, only for me to have to look deeper into it, and find out you lied.

We can safely conclude that CdnFox was lying yet again. 1200 medical professionals were not fired in British Columbia. He made it up.

ROFLMAO - ok there robosmith Kid everyone knows i'm right. This has been thoroughly covered many times. I tell you what - if i can provide a link what will you do for me? Will you publicaly start a thread that says "I'm sorry, cdnfox is right and i'm yet again wrong because i can't understand how google works" ? Oh - and good news, i WAS incorrect - the final number was 2500. So - what are you putting on the table? I mean you apperently KNOW i can't possibly post anything so you should be willing to bet just about anything right?

You just used a YouTube video, of a twice convicted pedophile. He is a disgraced man, who hates the USA.

Canada was never fascist, in it's 158 year history,

You do not even know what socialism is. Can you provide evidence that the Democrats are going to shut down or want to shut down Fox News if they win the election?

Well that was what I said too. I do more than asking question though.

Well if you’re too stupid to understand things and need them spelled out for you here you go: The line that says “Vought continued, saying, “He’s been at our organization, he’s raised money for our organization, he’s blessed it. … He’s very supportive of what we do.” demonstrates that Trump’s been at their organization, he’s raised money for their organization, he’s blessed it. … He’s very supportive of what they do. The line where JD Vance promotes Project 2025 leader’s book demonstrates that he supports Project 2025 The line where 140 people involved with P2025 have close ties to Trump and served in his last administration demonstrates that Trump has close ties to P2025 The line that says Republicans call Trump’s move to distance himself from Project 2025 ‘preposterous’ demonstrates that Trump’s move to distance himself from Project 2025 is ‘preposterous’ And so on. It’s pretty self-explanatory But honestly if you’re that dumb and need that much explaining then my posts are only going to get longer My point has been explained quite clearly, unfortunately you often have trouble following the plot. So here it is spelled out for you Whether or not Trump officially and formally endorses P2025 or not, a Trump administration will end up enacting many P2025 policies. He clearly has endorsed the 140 people involved in it when they served in his last administration and will likely serve in his next one. The P2025 people are insisting publicly he’s on board and Trump’s disavowal of it has been vague, mild in its criticism, and self-contradictory. Sure he has. Look at his acrobatics on abortion. Since 2016 he’s claimed to be the staunchest anti-abortionist in the country. Then just recently he flip-flopped and said it should be up to individual states and Republicans running for election should stay silent on abortion if it’s going to cost them votes. He understands when ideas are unpopular it doesn’t mean you abandon them, you just don’t publicly endorse them and campaign on them. Trump doesn’t have to come out and publicly back P2025 or campaign on it in order for it to be implemented. He just has to sit back and let it happen once he appoints P2025 people to his cabinet and they start doing the things they’re currently promising to do What a bad analogy and faulty argument. A random assortment of people who happen to have similar private religious beliefs are not comparable to a specific group of Trump associates who have come together to publicly state that they expect to be appointed to the Trump administration and then publish a manifesto on how they will use those appointments to takeover the entire US government. And to state the Trump has privately supported them. BTW, Trump hasn’t disavowed the claim that he will appoint some or all of them to his government even now that their agenda is public. And if Trump hasn’t privately endorsed it like they claim why doesn’t he call them liars? He loves attacking people but he just can’t bring himself to criticize these people or even clarify if he will appoint any of them to his administration That’s a dead giveaway that he’s hiding something As I’ve said repeatedly now, Trump himself doesn’t necessarily have to believe in P2025, he only has to be willing to let the P2025 people carry out their agenda under his administration, at least as a compromise he’s willing to make to guarantee the support of certain conservative groups. Considering one of those agenda items is to completely purge the entire federal public service of independent and non-partisan professionals and replace them with diehard MAGA zealots and Trump loyalists whose pledge of loyalty is to Trump the man rather than the office of POTUS, it’s not likely that a known megalomaniac like Trump would be opposed. What’s bullshit? It’s a FACT that Trump has not called them liars, even though they claim he has privately endorsed them and he claims otherwise. It’s also a fact that Trump has not declared that he won’t appoint any of them to his next administration It’s also a fact that Trump had made contradictory claims, saying he hasn’t read it, but also saying that there are parts of it he likes and parts that he doesn’t like, which isn’t possible unless he’s read it Its also a fact that Trump lied and claimed not to know any of the P2025 people when in fact he knows nearly 150 of them Its also a fact that claiming not to know anything about it isn’t the same as criticizing it or denouncing it, which he hasn’t done Furthermore his claims to STILL not know anything about it even after all the P2025 furor is highly dubious. We know he’s by nature an intellectually incurious man but for him to claim he still hasn’t bothered to look in to something that’s become so controversial for his campaign is dubious He’s talking out of both sides of his mouth again, as he always does, so his followers can believe whatever version of reality suits them at the moment. Everyone who hasn’t drunk the MAGA kool-aid knows Trump’s a habitual liar whose words are absolutely worthless. So no, his vague and contradictory claims do not mean it’s end of story. LOL you just finished admitting that you didn’t know what my point was. Again, nobody is claiming Trump authored P2025 or that it’s his personal wish list. The point is that he clearly has had at least general awareness of it and at the very least is open to allowing it or elements of it to be implemented under his administration. Ample evidence of the above point has been provided. You simply suffer from severe confirmation bias where the only evidence you’ll accept is evidence that confirms your pre-existing beliefs. The only counter argument you’ve presented is citing the words of Trump, one of the most infamous political liars of all time Until Trump condemns P2025 and its authors in specific and unmistakable terms and vows to never rehire any of his 140 acolytes who are involved in it, he remains suspect.

wiki IOW, extreme right wing bias.

He quit on principles. So he was conservative.

LOL so Paul Ryan is a Pelosi stooge now. The twisted mind of a right wing extremist, on full display

How can you be so uncritical? It’s crystal clear that Fauci benefited from big pharma which has also worked hand in glove with governments to suppress legitimate criticism of vaccines and anti-covid measures. If you can’t see that basic reality and the critical importance of the questions raised about what the hell was happening throughout the pandemic, I don’t know how you can expect to be taken seriously. We saw the greatest suppression of our rights in our lifetimes and it lasted two and a half years, resulted in a form of martial law in Canada, and raised important questions about the transparency of our government and healthcare. Your dismissal of any thoughtful critique of what happened by reducing it to Chuds or other Trudeauesque rhetoric demonstrates why we have culture wars.

Paul Ryan is a backstabbing little sh1t Mike. A Pelosi stooge.

And also that Fauci knew that the virus in the lab was transmissible H2H because research that he funded MADE IT TRANSMISSIBLE H2H. So: Fauci knew there was a good chance that the covid virus was from the BSL4 lab Fauci knew the covid virus from the BSL4 lab was transmissible H2H Fauci told the whole f'ing planet: "We don't think the virus is transmissible H2H Is that not 100.0% accurate? Which one of those things is less than 100% accurate? He did fund it. He knew they made it transmissible. He had to know there was a chance it was his virus that was out there. Then he decided to err on the side of caution pandemic. Can you tell me what I'm missing there? Or what's inaccurate? Just honestly. Between adults. If you make a salient point, I will acknowledge it for the full value of what it is worth.

Interesting. Now go back to your bible, and pray God saves you from Stage II Cancer. Who needs medicine when you ahve the power of prayer! User is "special."

Only if you speak Punjabi or Urdu.

Oh look - Robo understood him! He speaks gibberish pretty fluent, maybe he can translate for him?