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No, I think it’s stupid. You people are misogynists. If a woman’s fat you call her fat if she’s physically fit you call her a man. Meanwhile, you’re all a bunch of pudgy balding jerks and you make yourselves feel superior by insulting people and attacking people’s gender, religion, sex orientation and race. None of that makes our society better; all the things you people do make our society worse, while you pretend to be patriots and you dress up in your stupid camp larp costumes pretending to be army guys. Hint: Being born white or straight does not make you superior to other people in any way, and no matter what you do, the minorities will soon outnumber the white people and you’ll be in the minority.

I gotta ask. After the fcking DISASTER Hillary became (even as she was perhaps the most detestable First Lady of all time) do you REALLY think the Democrat Party has become so LAME in its presidential contenders that they would even consider THIS as presidential timbre?

I pointed out this base rate fallacy of his on the 2nd day or so of his crusade months ago. It really couldn't be simpler but horses and water as they say.

Your inability to comprehend and honestly discuss basic information has not changed all of these months (and FFS, learn the definition of the word "several") but for folks playing along at home ^^^ that post is bunch of pure, distilled crap. Statistical malpractice with deadly results. It's been pointed out to him many, many times that any measure of vaccine efficacy should control for age/risk. Despite this being pointed out, he consistently attempts to do the exact opposite, comparing the oldest and highest risk group that have been multi-vaxxed against the youngest and lowest risk group: the unvaxxed. Even if one *doesn't* control for age/risk comparing the standard vax crowd against the unvaxxed is 2x+ less likely to die. That's in the plain data. Again, without controlling for age at all. And when one does have the full data, the difference is even more dramatic. The PHAC data source that he, himself, cites EXPLICITLY contradict him: "Between August 29, 2022 and September 25, 2022, unvaccinated cases were 3 times more likely to be hospitalized and 5 times more likely to die from their illness, compared to cases with a completed primary vaccine series." They could not say it any plainer or more directly. I don't know that I've ever seen a more selfish and dangerous case of cherry picking. I believe this is because he has spent months and hundreds of posts spreading deadly misinformation and correcting course is too embarrassing. He'll deny, deny, deny until he dies--possibly from COVID. His ego is simply far more valuable to him than the lives of his countrymen.

You can talk all you want, but the data you are presenting is incomplete and you can’t use it to draw the conclusions you’re making. The epidemiologists who have analyzed all available data have concluded, in that report which you’re quoting from, that vaccination reduces risk of death.

Hiring a person to chase down culprits of your delusions isn't common sense

@Infidel Dog IIRC, Statistia is actually sourcing data from the PHAC site at timed intervals, so you're looking at the same data, though perhaps off by an update cycle from time to time. Here's the chart from PHAC (you just select cases deceased in figure 4. And yes, the groups at highest risk are vaccinating at the highest rates.

Ah, the simple pleasure of making cruel and unfunny "jokes" at the expense of others. Whatever happened to the good ol' days when one could bully to the contentment of one's tiny, shriveled heart. Now society is so "woke" it's not even acceptable to tease a fat girl until she commits suicide. "Libbies" have ruined all the fun.

I'm not sure if you're aware, but you seem to be suggesting that tossing an additional 10% of Black children onto the streets with no education, no prospects and no hope will have the effect of reducing crime. That's pretty crazy, IMO. Most people are looking for ways to keep kids off the streets.

Pretty much where you stated unequivocally that vaccinating people who were not at risk skews and manipulates the data to serve a political purpose... this is a fact This requires data skewers and manipulators as well as their political bosses to plan, coordinate and then execute the said skewing and manipulating. How many dozens upon dozens and hundreds do you think would be needed nationally and thousands internationally to accomplish this? This of course is also on top of the thousands and perhaps millions of other people involved with other tasks having to do with the ummm plan or well, what exactly do you call it anyway? Scamdemic or something cute? Point being, there's so many places and directions from which whistle-blowers bearing troves of evidence should be leaking through that the sheer volume of it would cause Edward Snowden and Julian Assange to blush.

Yes, that is what they think - a worldwide conspiracy involving virtually all health care workers, gov and media to mislead us about Covid and vaccinations for "reasons".

However many who are vaccinated wouldn't dawn the doors of an emergency room anyway.. There was also dumb things like clinics shutting down because of pandemic restrictions that over inflated "hospitalizations"

Those of us who watch and read the news get it shoved in our face.

It's a simple yes or no. The hospitalization rate is 5 times higher in the unvaccinated population. Are you saying the USDOH is lying? https://www.google.com/url?q=https://doh.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2022-02/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiaoqemjfX8AhV9m2oFHdWBDPAQFnoECAEQAg&usg=AOvVaw3oBr63edJXxfo4wpvcHcys

So why did Chauvin, a trained officer, who already saw the George was in a distressed state, not just leave him in the car and/or call for medical assistance? Instead, Chauvin pinned George down to the ground with his knee on George's neck for 10 minutes. During which time, George died. They put George in one side of the cruiser... Chauvin allowed him to exit on the other side of the cruiser..... It's all on the video.and, I must say, George looked pretty active for someone dying of a opioid overdose. Clearly you are never going to admit what the courts have already proven.... Which is that Chauvin acted with reckless abandon which led to the death of a handcuffed suspect.

It is, if you're a simpleton. And we got a whole lot of those.

Ahhh.... So you believe it's a conspiracy and the USDOH is in on it and lying.

The hospitalization rate is 5 times higher in the unvaccinated population. Are you saying the USDOH is lying? https://www.google.com/url?q=https://doh.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2022-02/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiaoqemjfX8AhV9m2oFHdWBDPAQFnoECAEQAg&usg=AOvVaw3oBr63edJXxfo4wpvcHcys

It's a simple question. The hospitalization rate is 5 times higher in the unvaccinated population. Which part do you not understand? https://www.google.com/url?q=https://doh.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2022-02/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiaoqemjfX8AhV9m2oFHdWBDPAQFnoECAEQAg&usg=AOvVaw3oBr63edJXxfo4wpvcHcys

It's a simple question. The hospitalization rate is 5 times higher in the unvaccinated population. Which part do you not understand? https://www.google.com/url?q=https://doh.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2022-02/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiaoqemjfX8AhV9m2oFHdWBDPAQFnoECAEQAg&usg=AOvVaw3oBr63edJXxfo4wpvcHcys

Wrong... Age, comorbidities, BMI etc are much more of a factor... A twenty five year old unvaxxed is at less risk than an 80 year old vaxxed

Something going unnoticed is almost all of the unvaccinated that do get sick now come out of it and now they're walking around with natural immunity which is soooo much better than anything the clot shot therapeutic is offering. The vaccinated need to check out the hashtag # Died Suddenly.

That's what you want. Stop projecting. As Ari said, Ukrainian suffering ends when the Russians leave their country and stop shooting at them. If you weren't getting your news from Iran and other such brilliant sources, you'd have better perspective on the whole situation.

You know that Colonel Klink from California is going to run, (and he is arguably the WORST governor in the history of that cursed state.) Probably Kamala the Ugandan Giant. I wouldn't put it past Beatoff ORourk to run again.

You are correct. The people in the large vaccinated circle were not at risk of serious illness… because they were vaccinated.

The hospitalization rate is 5 times higher in the unvaccinated population. Which part confuses you?

And you know you could put a stop to this, but you don't. Why is that exactly?

So are posts like this. You know how much time and attention I pay to black history month? None.

All those people you despise are better humans than Nazis. And you are a Nazi. A person who denies the Holocaust or who says Hitler didn’t cause it is a NAZI. Enjoy the label. You have chosen evil.

You are stupid or you are lying. Which is it? Your 86% figure is bogus, because nearly all the deaths occur in a group that is 98% vaccinated. That is why probability of dying is several times higher among the unvaxxed. Every study has concluded this and you’re ignoring important pieces of data AND the conclusions in order to manipulate the data to give you the answer you want. Those are the facts. Either you understand them, and you’re just lying, or you don’t understand them, and you’re stupid. Stupid or lying. Which? And here’s the age data: https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/vaccination-coverage/ Age 80+ is >99% vaccinated and 70-80 96.7% and even 60-70 is 94%. Now go look at the ages of the people dying from Covid. 0-11 45 12-19 23 20-29 140 30-39 325 40-49 671 50-59 1,805 60-69 4,144 70-79 7,532 80+ 19,551 https://www.statista.com/statistics/1228632/number-covid-deaths-canada-by-age/ The proper analysts requires the two data combined, by quarter or month, because vaccination status changed over time. And if you do that, you will see mortality that is 3x to 5X higher among the unvaxxed, because nearly all deaths occurred among cohorts that were 94 to 99% vaccinated, not 86% vaccinated.

When Michael first suggested he was a conservative, I reminded him of that link about human caused climate change, which pretty much revokes his secret conservative decoder ring. Since then, he continually calls me a troll. Some people are so childish.

Kay. I don't plan on having it light on fire.

No, you can't prove any such thing. The data strictly and explicitly contradicts your claim. Vaccinated individuals are hospitalized at dramatically lower rates and die at dramatically lower rates. You can't hand-wave away that data by pointing to the total deaths, as if that is some meaningful measure of efficacy. If the vaccine weren't saving those lives the total deaths would be higher still And yes, I think that most people, aside from you, do know what a vaccine is. Remember how much time you spent pretending the flu vaccine isn't a vaccine? Didn't learn from that apparently. Your version of "statistics" is *exactly* like claiming that seatbelts don't prevent deaths because more people die in traffic accidents every single year. To make that kind of crazy claim you have to deliberately blind yourself to the lives that are being saved on a per-incident basis. The only reason anyone would ignore the demonstrable efficacy is because it's inconvenient to the political points you're promoting. There are people out there wondering if they should take the vaccine. If they took it, they'd be about 5x less likely to die if infected with COVID. Obviously a huge advantage, but you tell them not to do it because of some useless total death number. Your misinformation is lethal.

It’s simpler than that: With over 95% of the most vulnerable cohorts vaxxed and over 85% of Canadians age 18+ vaccinated, he yells: “Look! The RAW NUMBER of Covid death is higher in the group that contains 90% of the population and lower in the group that contains 10%!!! No shlt, Sherlock.

You can talk all you want, but you're glorifying the data of people who told us that "the jab prevents infection", and "you don't have to worry about covid if you're jabbed". They're the people who told us that the jab is safe, and that's a huge lie. They told us that kids need the jab, that's also a huge lie. Those guys lost their place at the adult table a long time ago by virtue of the fact that they are known to be liars. Furthermore, their theories don't make room for a world where covid deaths are higher after the vax rollout than they were before, especially when 86% of covid deaths are among the vaxed. Have healthier people started dying of covid now? No, they have not. Healthy people die of "dying suddenly" (after vaxing). FYI if the vax was highly successful, or even successful, then vaxing 85% of the population would have resulted in a decrease in covid deaths. Ask any epidemiologist or virologist: "What would happen to the weekly covid death toll if we vaxed 85% of the population?" They all know the answer, and it would not be: "Deaths would go up." Then say: "If deaths did go up, what percent of the deaths do you think would be from the unvaccinated? Would it just be equal to their percentage of the population?" They'd say: "Most of the deaths would be among the unvaccinated." And don't forget, the threshold for "success" isn't a slight reduction in negative outcomes. That's because the reason for force-vaxing healthy young people and vaxing children is to prevent the spread. We went full vax-fascist here because the vax was supposed to stop the spread (or at least slow it). The fact that so many vaxed people are getting covid, and getting it bad enough to die from it, proves conclusively that the vax absolutely does not slow the spread. And if the jab isn't slowing the spread, then why should people who don't need it, take it? Van mandates were a full fascist flop. Period. And it's not unreasonable to think that the jab caused Pressly's death, this thread is stupid. I'll be replying to your comments, should there be any, in a more aptly named thread.

Actually Robo calling people stupid for considering Lomborg would be ignorant even for a warminista and that's pretty ignorant. It would be completely clueless though...so Robo would fit right in. That's his natural state. Bjorn Lomborg's credentials are perfectly adequate for what he's arguing. His position is not to be opposed to Global Warming. He believes in it. Unlike hard scientists like Lindzen, Spencer or Christie, he is a warmer. He believes in what they call "the science of human caused, crisis global warming." Bjorn Lomborg's position does not deal with that. Instead it says the economy and society in general will be farther ahead of the game by adapting to changes in the climate rather than expecting globalists and politicians to (or even can) fix the weather.

BS. Your dad was a SARtech. You're a barista with a man-bun who only works about 25 hrs/week.

The Coast Guard is a member of the security apparatus, they are responsible for patrolling the coast and protecting our water ways, many different governments have thought about arming them. but decided not to, but their ships could be easily armed with LT guns if they had to...They work hand in hand with our Navy and RCMP in doing that...

Once again "How arrogant are you to think you deserve to go through life with no one ever saying anything that you don’t agree with or like? " 35 years SAR. Thank you

And many here thought your head was up Justin's . . . . . oh well, carry on.

The whole bloody democratic party is totally full of liars and cheats and thieves. Psycho Shiffster being one dam good liar indeed. It would appear as though the democratic party is trying to fast become another lying communist party. Everything that the democrats do these days smacks of communism. Scum like the shiffster despises anyone who will not kiss his lying Bolshevik arse. The guy is a promoter of all things evil and satanic. At least Pelosi is gone. Amen.

True enough. I guess we need a West coast navy to stop Columbian drug cartels from smuggling all that marijuana into BC?

My God you're an embarrassment to the military @ExFlyer I really wish you'd change your username to TorontoStarChild or TrudeauLuv, something that makes more sense. I can guarantee that 95% of military people hate you anyways. TBH, I think that you're probably the son or daughter of someone who served, and your backstory is their life because you live in a basement somewhere.

I've posted this stuff nicely a million times here. 100% of my replies from non-conservatives are made up of 49% sandbox insults and 51% false Faucian narratives. Thanks for looking at it.

The temporary COVID measures are gone. Just like everyone, other than hysterical conspiracy nuts, said they’d be. No one is allowed to set up camp and shut down a city…. do you think protestors in the USA have freedom to shut down cities? He says dumb things all the time.

Well I've been arguing in favor of nuclear for 10+ years, rather than wasting our money on inefficient wind/solar tech that cannot be stored or scaled at today's tech levels. One problem with this particular part of the debate, however, is that it's mostly a provincial issue.

We should feel awful for the Ukrainian soldiers that are been thrown into that meat grinder for nothing but for the military industrial complex to make billions. What's amazing about this tank situation is that some people actually think 15 bloody tanks are going to make any difference. It's just that Ukrainians don't even know how to drive or service them!

Perhaps that's because the Ukrainian people had already made it clear they wanted the opposite, and been promised the opposite, and then their president about-faced them without much explanation towards the hopelessness that alignment with Russia offered. ?‍♂️

Eh, I think you're focused on the wrong thing here. The real observation and question is why do so many spiteful a-holes also describe themselves as patriots? ETA: I'm just gonna skip ahead to the answer. It's because they see America as a place for straight, white men (and occasionally properly subservient women) and anything outside of that paradigm is unAmerican. They are the original embodiment identity politics and they are so goddamn fragile they need to lash out even at simple candy mascots if the roster includes more women or an anxious guy, or whatever. Some conservatives are just that afraid of change.

You actually found an insult that you won’t use? Well, aren’t you just the most reasonable fellow?