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The people who named them “Indians” thought they made it to the Indian Ocean. They should be called whatever they wish to be called. Why is it up to you?

In conversations with friends, acquaintances, and others . . . . there is a palpable hatred toward the present Liberal government, and especially towards Justin Trudeau. Canada has devolved under his leadership. Disturbing times . . .

The investigation is over with the predictable results. Trudeau and his band of trolls now know that they're completely 'un-touchable' . . . . free rein granted, carry on with impunity. The precedent has been set for future Emergency Act 'emergencies' . . . . such as parking violations, littering, or even openly questioning this appalling federal government on their behavior and their propensity to deceive. Carry on Justin, make Hardner, ExFlyer, Queenie85, and their ilk happy . . . . . and remember Justin, Canada loves you.

IF ^this is true, the Oath Keepers were really foolish to plan a major crime there. But the FACT is, there is a pile of evidence against Rhodes & Co of which you are obviously ignorant.

And those reasons were circumstantial having to do with the reopening of the economy, directly causing increased DEMAND and the choking of SUPPLY by the Russian invasion of Ukraine. We have it FAR BETTER than most of the Western world, but you guys totally IGNORE that and continually try to blame Biden for ALL OF IT. Just STUPID.

Not quite equivalent. We have to clean up the mine. We don't have to treat natives like fragile children who have to be carefully protected, nurtured and have all their decisions made for them by us. I'm not clear on the scope of the question. What would be done differently about native schools? Or what would be done differently to integrate natives? I'll assume the latter. And the answer to that is difficult because we face the problem that the majority of the representatives of natives are quite content, thanks very much, with the present system. They and their families are at the top of the pyramid and have little reason to want that pyramid torn down and replaced with something that wouldn't pay them nearly so well or give them any real power. A professor whose name I forget said something once about how the leaders of disadvantaged minority groups rarely have much interest in pursuing goals which might result in promoting the disadvantaged minority and moving them into harmony with the whole because if that succeeds they no longer need those leaders. Which means you're going to have to overcome almost certain opposition from native chiefs and go over their heads to the natives themselves in proposing solutions that would result in abandoning the reserve system and the Indian Act in favor of a change which would be challenging and tumultuous but result in a better life in the long run. And certainly a better life for their kids. You need to overcome fear of the unknown, reassure people that they'll have something to fall back on. It ain't going to be easy, and would require determination for a long-term solution which none of our leaders have so far shown much inclination for. They are not separate nations. That is a polite fiction, like an adult patting a child's head and congratulating them on some terrible creation they've just presented you with. Most of these 'nations' are under 2,000 people strong. That's not a nation. It's barely a village. Not to mention separate nations don't need to have 100% of their bills paid by someone else. Quebec, btw, is not a nation either, but that's a whole other argument about political cowardice. A nation without a sense of shared identity is brittle and will fracture at the stress lines and dissolve into violence under pressure. Of course there would eventually be cost savings. Do you imagine Canadians are going to put up with paying their way forever? It's going to last only until the majority of power brokers in parliament are not white. Once the Asians take over - and they will inevitably take over given immigration and birth levels) natives are going to be faced with some pretty goddam harsh choices because I've never met a non white immigrant who had ANY sympathy for natives (I'm sure there are at least some who do). And the ones with the least sympathy are the ones whose culture is most demanding of hard work. And yes, I'm aware Jagmeet Singh makes all kinds of mouth noises about supporting natives, but he's a trust fund rich boy who operates on an ideological level quite different from most people.

Canadians, maybe you can lend some insight into this story. https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/11/26/biden-pressured-trudeau-to-clamp-down-on-freedom-convoy-trucker-protest-inquiry/ Biden Pressured Trudeau to Clamp Down on ‘Freedom Convoy’ Truckers: Inquiry Gee! LEGALLY ELECTED PRESIDENT TRUMP was illegally impeached for a phone call with the Ukraine President that produced NOTHING. What say you, Canucks?

Actually I do. WTF is wrong with them, we haven't used heating oil since the 1970s. They like stinky furnaces?

So the answers yes....

I told you once already...do not put words in my mouth. I'll just spit them right back at you. Have a bit of honour. Bigger than some MSNBC shows eh? Go figure... No. One side has almost all of the major outlets carrying water for them. That includes the internet...until recently. And watch as Apple tries to blackmail Musk into not producing the documentation he has. Its sickening. I've been banned from a couple of sites including REDDIT. No. I want to wake up and find an even keel. Unbiased application of the law. And an end to this poorly thought out greenie panic. NOBODY intheir right mind, tosses out their old shoes, before they have a new pair.

By that logic, this means that since there was no America when the first white settlers came to what is now America, their descendants can’t be called Americans either. The logic there is….. questionable, to say the least.

No. He just wants Freedom of Speech. More importantly, and end to leftists broadcasting lies (eg: "it prevents infection and stops the spread) while simultaneously stifling the truth. In a perfect world, the Dems could still lie while conservatives tell the truth.

Yes and thank Gawd the SCOTUS is conservative. Shall we list all the Libbie media outlets? Is this forum big enough for that? Musk plans to release the documents he has that show exactly how this "relationship" with the Democrats was brought about, how it works and who its aimed at. I think that will be rather...interesting. Don't you?

What's the proverb that starts with: "From the mouths of CrakHoBabies..." again?

From your POV, basically that of an ant looking up at the dizzying heights of my towering intellect, it may seem like I'm the smartest guy on the internet, I'm probably 12th or so, but everyone ahead of me is also conservative ?

Given the point that Rhodes was convicted, your response was, “Oh, what about Scaffold Man?” That is the very definition of Whataboutism. As for Ray Epps, he’s one of you people. You guys just decided to throw him under the bus for no reason. I think all those people who rioted on Jan 6, or who conspired, ought to be in jail for 20 years or more. They’ve so far charged several hundred and they have several hundred more to go.

If election fraud is not widespread, then it is not impacting the outcome of elections. Therefore, why is it necessary to disenfranchise voters who don’t have ID’s, such as (surprise, surprise) urban black people who take the bus, don’t own cars and therefore don’t need driver’s licenses? (“Oh, it’s just a coincidence that our law will disproportionately impact black people and the poor…”)

I clearly asked you on multiple occasions to present evidence viable enough to be substantiated in a court of law. You failed son. That's on you peanut.

For a guy as smart as you are Queen, you seem to have forgotten what Canadian federal government does or is supposed to do. The primary mission of the government is to keep the country running, and when nessicary making those tough decisions when they are not popular. In our case each PM or government has their own agenda, on what they think is best for the country, which comes first and foremost, you did not get a vote or say in that, and then if there is room to keep some people happy then sure they'll slide a little something in there, make no mistake the government is not the people's puppet. Why is it that the government cannot account for all the funding spent on the pandemic, CERB, PPE, Vaccines, only account for less than 1/2 that spent. 47.500 Canadians deaths is a tragic, but why are you fixated on this pandemic, why are we OK with spending all that we did. why was it so important to spend well over 700 billion. when this nation faces much worse than this pandemic. Cancer kills 45,000 men and 40,000 women each year, Cancer statistics at a glance | Canadian Cancer Society Heart disease kills 54,000 people every year. The Top 10 Leading Causes of Death in Canada | Finder Canada There is a whole list of what kills people in Canada, the covid numbers for 2020, were 16, 151 everyone is tragic, but we did not shut down the country, nor did we spend over 1/2 trillion federal dollars on any of the rest of the ones on the list, infact very little government spending goes into cancer research, most of it is sponsored by regular Canadians out of their own pockets, as most research of diseases are. The Cerb was a program designed to be taken advantage of, with well over thousands of Canadian teenagers collecting cerb while living at home with parents who's income was over 200 k. nor the thousand others that claimed they did not know all the rules collected CERB and then were given a reprieve by the government. Did it benefit the nation yes for the most part it did, but not all, did it prevent large chunks of private business from closing no it did not so there was good point and bad points. but was it worth 700 bil nope.

I didn't actually - I suppose incompetence would have been a foregone factor in any case.

You are so full of crap. Of course a crime is a crime, so arrest and prosecute criminals. Over and over and over and over, the media and Democrats said that there was no evidence of WIDESPREAD VOTER FRAUD in the 2020 election. I did not say that there was no evidence whatsoever. You showed a database of 1,300-ish cases of "voter fraud," but they go all the way back to 2000 and they include cases of politicians paying people to vote for them. That does not justify the disenfranchisement of ten of thousands of voters. Bottom Line: You don’t give a darn about fair elections, you just want to rig things to help your side win. Look at all the GOP gerrymandering, in one stage after another. It’s absurd. Or when the Senate says they can’t confirm a Supreme Court nominee 90 days before an election… but they can confirm one two weeks before an election.

Once again: There is no evidence that lack of ID has resulted in fraudulent voting. If that evidence existed, I might agree with you. But voting is a Constitutional right, it has historically been illegally and unconstitutionally denied to people in America. Therefore, no restrictions on the right should be imposed without cause. And there is no cause.

Here is the bottom line: There is no evidence that fraud occurs because of a lack of Voter ID, and election systems have been steadily moving to absentee and vote by mail. Therefore, the only purpose of Voter ID laws is to prevent legitimate voters from voting. This is not ok.

Why does any of this matter?

And those brown people are not too happy about those animals who are illegally violating our borders and not waiting their turn.

A typical diversion of legitimate questions and concerns. The question was, to remind: was / is forced or clearly coerced administration of the treatments justified by the actual, factual situation, not its interpretation in some minds? That is a tall threshold. It requires high level of confidence on several points simultaneously: 1. The event causes clear and extreme danger to the whole society. 2. The treatment confidently and demonstrably protects against the condition, both the recipient and from the spread. 3. There are no other, less intrusive options. None were proven confidently, forget all together. This irresponsible use of authority based on shady science is a concerning and potentially dangerous direction. Countries did not have mandates and they did just as well. Panicked bureaucratic overreacting is no alternative for reason, quality and efficiency.

Do you imagine that "democracy" gives truckers the right to block traffic for weeks, which imperils others' employment, and LIVES if ambulances can't get through? If so, what have you been smoking?

The problem with the “best person foe the job” argument is that it falsely suggests that you can objectively tell who “the best candidate Is” like they all have a number on them. But that’s false. First of all resumes and job interviews aren’t exactly accurate ways to identify “the most qualified candidate”. Its just all we have. But bad hires happen all the time. Second, when you get bunch of candidates for a job, sure there are seemingly some obvious duds and sometimes you get some obvious standouts…. but the rest are either all more or less the same OR they are all seemingly adequate but each has different strengths and weaknesses, unique pros and cons and it’s ultimately subjective and 2 different managers in the exact same situation with the exact same candidates might make different choices based on their personal preferences. Its that subjectivity that historically favours white and male candidates- everything from having a more pronounceable name to misconceptions about hair styles or cultural clothing. For example in many places Black job seekers who do not emulate caucasian hairstyles are still presumed to be untrustworthy and unprofessional. That’s not a written policy anywhere it’s just a bias many people have and don’t realize it. And so inclusive hiring isn’t about filling a quota but ensuring you consciously avoid all the unconscious biases that ALL people have.

Not as much as you like to bogeyman it out to be, that's for certain. but this wasn't what you were asking. You were asking why merit-based hiring/promotion is bad, which nobody was arguing. So, once again, you're making things up to debate against. Sure, but they don't have to be identical. You offered up reasoning for why minorities don't join the Canadian forces, but they're obviously not true because those same minorities are joining in the US in outsized numbers. Unless you can reasonably explain how American Asians are so much less scarred by colonialism etc than Canadian Asians, this theory falls on its face. This 20 year old you're talking about is yet another another straw man you've invented to argue against. Cop out of what? ?

He wanted his side to win but they lost. Therefore, conspiracy. Its as true for Rhodes as it is for Fiddle and the rest of the right

Unlike your continual TROLLING here, I am completely serious and RATIONAL about everything. You just don't really know what's going on here in the US but foolishly believe you do.

You still haven't mentioned why we should be in such a hurry to sell off our non-renewable resources. They have to be there for future generations, particularly coal and oil. The worst thing you can do with coal and oil is burn it. There are tens of thousands of products that are made from fossil resources. Without lubricating oil, nothing moves. There is no electricity. No rolling transport, no industry. If we use up our oil and coal now, we will be robbing our descendents of life above the Bronze Age. Somebody said in this forum that we only have 188 years of oil reserves left. It took 180 million years to produce the oil and at the rate we are going, we will have used it up in less than 400 years. So much for the rights of the unborn.

1. Careful though, it's only respected by *reasonable, *intelligent, *sane people... ie. those who are "in on it" and those who DON'T believe science = SCHMIENCE 2. You are basically asking a cat to become a dog, or in other words for someone to change their religion. If they don't believe that big-heads with glasses and suits might be working openly and honestly, no publication with the word "Scientific" in the title will convince them. But... keep popping bubble wrap and indulging your boredom. I do it too, and feeding the trolls is as much fun as feeding squirrels so don't mind me...

Only according to you though. I've not found anything anywhere from any reputable source that explains why the fallacy doesn't apply here.

Everything seems to be cancel-culture bullshit as far as your concerned. If a thread goes on long enough, you're almost guaranteed to bring it up. Yes, they're public knowledge, which is why it was so awkward that you presented the bogeyman case of all of purple-haired ninnies giving away friendly positions, considering it wouldn't even be allowed in a combat zone. because you're not asking intelligent questions? Stuff like: I'm not really sure you're using the term flow-chart properly, but nobody's said merit-based hiring and promotion is bad. You're making up stuff to debate against. The effort has been ongoing for 10+ years, and started long before the Liberals took over. The Conservative administration understood the issue and where demographics were headed. No doubt there are differences, but then your explanation that ethnic minorities just aren't interested in the military (as a symbol of ethnic repression/colonialism or whatever) falls flat on its face simply by examining the US forces and it's more diverse makeup. Maybe you could explain why black people in the US join up in outsized numbers, but in Canada we somehow have more colonial baggage...or something? We have the same problem across the board. The occupations are not attractive for anyone right now. I considered it after university (RCAF mainly), and the idea of spending years rotating through buttf*** nowhere places (like Cold Lake) turned me away. I suspect a large part of the problem is millennial tendencies towards researching every decision they make and, like me, not liking what I was finding, not to mention hearing from people coming back how frustrating it was in general. They've also done studies on how poor the recruitment practices have been, sending out grey-haired sergeants almost old enough to be the prospects' grandfathers to career fairs and expecting them to be able to communicate effectively with kids less than half their age. I don't have the answers for why recruitment has been failing. I DO know that listening to dinosaurs like Michel Maisonneuve ramble is not going to attract the young people the military needs, because by and large they just don't share those attitudes.

I'm going to go with common sense here and the definition of "vaccine" that was accepted for 100 years before it was changed to accommodate the shitty covid vaccine and say that if large numbers of people get vaccinated against an illness 4-5 times in a year and half and then get infected and hospitalized and die from the illness the vaccine supposedly protected them against......THAT means the vaccine is not effective.

I don't have anything against Scientific American, I'm just saying I don't get my scientific information there, or from CTV headlines. I get it from the actual scientists doing the research and studies and prefer to read the data.

No you get yours straight. The PARTY says, not the leader. MOF you are a man, and abortion doesn't affect you personally, so blab all you want but you've no moral right to decide for women.

1. Acknowledged. 2. Any room in there to acknowledge superior weaponry? I'm thinking that reason is in the mix somewhere. 3. I like that you said 'fix'. If we were to suppress all use of shame-inducing terms and wringing of crying cloths but committed to fixing things I would be fine with that. 4. I like that you said 'fix'.

I think he has at least a kernel of a point. It wasn't his fault. It probably wasn't his parents' fault, or his grandparent's faults either. The pre-Columbian First Nations were enslaving and exterminating each other for millennia before the first settlers ever came, so it was hardly the agrarian utopia that some folk seem to think. More competitive cultures supplanting and overtaking less competitive ones has been the way of the world since pre-recorded history. The difference here is that Europeans were far better organized and developed and operated at far greater scale than anything seen before in the Americas. The other difference is our capacity for self-shame and guilt for this. While we should certainly be acknowledging things like residential schools and reconciling for that (particularly considering some of these folk are still alive, or their direct/immediate descendants are), we're not going to fix much of anything dredging up centuries-old grievances from bygone days with ways of life (both aboriginal and colonial) that no longer exist. Practical solutions for impoverished aboriginal communities are not going to come out of the Indian Act, the reserve system or reparations/treaty settlements.

I didn't add hooey. I put the arithmetic in front of you, and your reply was basically: 2 + 2 = When you finally acknowledge that 85.7% of the people who died of covid in Canada were multi-vaxed, and that the weekly death toll didn't drop at all after we vaxed millions of people & forced millions of others to vax in order to keep their jobs, we're golden in this thread. Just say: "I, Eyeball DeLeft, do hereby solemnly swear to cease and desist making false criticisms of WestCanMan's impeccable and pertinent covid statistics. I absolutely, unconditionally and unreservedly apologize for any confusion that I may have caused with my inappropriate posts in this thread." You're on the road to redemption, sir ?

True enough, but that was likely because of the media attention the military was getting more than anything else. Debatable. Though as a sweeping generalization there's some truth to that, I've played enough co-ed sports throughout my life to know that there are plenty of women out there with the strength and intensity for combat roles. Nobody's suggesting we need 50% of our combat ranks filled with 100 lb waifs with no upper body strength though. Gee, the military's recruitment efforts focusing on visible minorities and women started long before Trudeau came to power. I wonder if that's because even the Harper Conservatives understood the changing times.

? Stop projecting. Your culture-war bullshit is exhausting. It's all you seem to care about these days and somehow you manage to swing almost every topic back to cancel-culture and wokeness, whether or not it has anything to do with the debate. I don't have to have served in the military to know when you have no idea what you're talking about. You didn't even know what the new dress rules were before you started bullshitting about purple-haired dandies giving away combat positions. While you pretend to know why minorities aren't joining the military, those same minorities are joining in outsized numbers in the US military, a country with similar history and demographic trends.

I'm pointing out that even with all the output from those wind farms there is still an energy crisis in the UK. I am all for domestic oil and gas production. I'll shrug off your latest insult just knowing you're the kind of person that wouldn't dare say it to anyone's face.

Yes, I agree with that. In the meantime, people are going to have to deal with a severe energy crisis. Eat or heat?

No one is buying food FOR YOU TO STEAL IT. You've only revealed the DEPTH of YOUR DEPRAVITY. ?

Wow, here I am putting up a link from CNN. It does seem like there is currently an energy crisis in the UK. Same old story, moving way too fast without a viable alternative ready to take up the slack. UK energy crisis is 'bigger than the pandemic' | CNN Business So with all this abundant wind energy, why am I still reading articles about the UK energy crisis?

Yeah, that's basically true. I mean quotas aren't a thing anymore, but there is definitely an effort for better representation, diversity and inclusion of marginalized groups. Both for a sense of fairness and for, on the business side, enhanced performance. And to pursue that objective there is a conscious effort to shift some of the "benefit of the doubt" from the group that used to have exclusive access to groups that have not. Of course, that's just a bridge. If our society, institutions and offices are representative, the built-in advantages disappear. ETA: more on quotas. It's much more organic than that now. Nobody says, "We're short on X, go hire one." Instead, for example, when I'm hiring I'm asking HR/recruiting for a diverse slate of candidatesv and then hire the best candidate. If you only interview five white guys from ivy league schools, that's who gets hired. If you see a diversity of talent you naturally end up with a more diverse team.

As usual, you've confidentially stated as fact the exact opposite of reality. Lol Democrats, as a group, are substantially better educated than Republicans. A college degree is now becoming a significant predictor is party affiliation. And the gap is even greater among people with graduate degrees. Republicans are increasingly becoming the party of white people without a college education--particularly men. Those are facts. As for what's driving those trends, I believe it's the erosion of white- and male privilege. For most of the history of this country being white and male was a leg up within any given social strata. Whether factories and farming or banking and business, white men were more likely to be hired, more likely to be promoted and to earn higher wages then minorities and women. All else being equal, white men could get ahead without trying as hard. Now though, as the playing field begins to level a bit, that privelege isn't what it used to be. They have to actually compete with women and minorities. And those without education are the least prepared to compete. They see it as a loss, this erosion of privelege -- and it truthfully is. Losing white, male privelege makes life harder for that demographic. It doesn't matter whether the privelege is right or wrong, they still feel the loss, and they'll fight it. So of course they'll turn away from the party that is more aligned to equality and embrace the party that works to keep women and minorities "in their place."