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expecting the unvaccinated to protect the vaccinated is not taking personal responsibility

We also went from "Save the gramdmas" to "Take this experimental jab or lose your job" pretty quick. Now grocery stores have been given governmental permission to ban certain people from buying food. Incremental. That's how it happened in Germany too. And with each successive step, people like Dialamah agreed it was all "for the greater good" and would eliminate typhoid if they just banned the Jews from society.

No it isn't. The resurgence of measles and other communicable diseases are due to the antivax crowd.

Tucker Carlson has said right on his show that he thinks that Hunter is a very nice person, and that they were on very friendly terms. Apparently they used to be neighbours or something. IIRC they had dinners together. I've seen it on his own show and with my own eyes on the day that he said it. I watch at least a bit of Tucker's show almost every single weekday. That doesn't mean that Tucker isn't going to report the truth about him. This isn't the same thing as when CNN covers up for their friends/family/favourite politicians. Hunter and Joe were 100% busted for influence-peddling in Ukraine. They're both on camera lying about whether or not Joe Knew that Hunter worked at Burisma, and the laptop shows that members of Burisma asked Hunter to get Joe to come to Ukraine for a meeting with them, Hunter passed on the message, and Joe came on AF2 less than a month later. It could be a coincidence, but those are the facts of the matter and they look extremely bad for Joe, especially when you take everything into account. It all adds up to the same thing. The laptop is a legitimate source of evidence, showing that Hunter/Joe were influence peddling, and it was actually never "Russian disinformation according to hundreds of intelligence sources" as was reported on CNN. The fact that you guys are still ignoring the facts here and that you're still going to dolt-left websites somewhere to giggle about your ridiculous screed is just disappointing. No one who knows how to read and write should be sucked in to the extent that you guys are. It's a window into the minds of the people who got sucked into becoming Nazis and murdering children.

Stop trying to pin all of our pandemic problems on the tiny minority of anti-vaxxers. They’re just not a big factor anymore in the spread of Covid and the mandates and restrictions imposed to fight it. That’s a chimera or straw man at this point. Death and severe illness due to Covid are now a minor threat. Persistent government control is the bigger concern now.

Socrates was right a few millenia before us. He knew that doubt was the answer to everything. He was right. These vaccines promoted by these experts, these politicians in high office, those businessmen, those doctors. We are learning a collective lesson. Doubt.

Prog logic: A vaxxed 20 year-old is more vulnerable than a 20 year old with natural immunity and should stay home. Did I get that right? No? Are we doing rules for thee but not for me, again? Bet you're going to be surprised when the 'equity/build back better' boys get their social credit system in place and straighten you out on that. Just a matter of time before the rules are for you too.

Ban from getting groceries if you are not vaccinated in New Brunswick. Will the people disobey? -- Beginning Saturday, people in New Brunswick who do not show proof of full vaccination can be barred from entering grocery stores to buy food. The measure was announced as part of the province’s “winter action plan,” which allows any business, including grocery stores, the option of barring unvaccinated individuals. According to Health Minister Dorothy Shephard, it comes as the province sees a “very concerning” rise in COVID infections over the last two weeks, particularly among unvaccinated Canadians. The province reported 97 cases and 2 deaths since Thursday.

The elite knocked off Epstein while he was in prison. GM is still alive. How come? I do believe that she will try and and go after Trump and other republicans to try and make many of them look bad before the mid terms. The big wigs like Gates, B. Clinton(17 trips to the island)and other big globalist elites will get off the hook. GM will still have to spend sometime in jail for her crimes, maybe, but in the meantime why not try and take down as many GOP people as possible. The rat American media and the rat democratic party will have a field day when that happens. It may be just enough to get the democratic rats elected again in the mid terms. Those democratic rats won the last election by cheating. That will only happen if the American people end up believing all the lies that will be no doubt coming out about the GOP and Trump. We must now wait and see what happens. My bet is on MG. I hope that I lose that bet. Just saying. ?

Not in large grocery stores. And guess what? Cases went down during those times! The vast majority of cases are private gatherings not public places like grocery stores. This is just straight up fascism.

It's odd to me how little of this trial is in the media.

Gosh...this must shatter all of your collective admiration of Tucker Carlson. Fact is: much like Trump, this fellow has a cot in your head.

Hate to tell you but age is not binary. I can give you multiple scenarios off the same question...20 vs 65, 20 vs 75, 30 vs 65. Distinction by age is the furthest thing from binary but nice try. Of course, its always telling when people don't actually answer the question but instead deflect. So your simplistic way of viewing things is that anyone that is 'more of a risk' (regardless by how much) should stay home? So by your logic, then you would agree that anyone over 60 (vaxxed or not) should stay home because they are still hospitalized and dying more than 20 year olds. Also, should Blacks and Hispanics be forced to stay at home as they have been shown to be at higher risk for both hospitalization and death? 95% of deaths in Alberta have been shown to be in people with pre-existing conditions. Clearly anyone with a condition, regardless of their vaxx status should stay home because they are clearly higher risk? So the only people that should NOT stay home are triple vaxxed, 40 and under, white people. Gotcha! If you are going to make decisions based on risk then you need to make that risk objectively comparable and you have to have an acceptable risk limit. The people above this acceptable risk are elderly and those with pre-existing conditions. These people NEED to get vaccinated. People under that acceptable risk should all go on with life regardless of vaxx status, especially is Omicron remains to be as mild as they are saying.

You know, for someone who insisted for years that the media was overblowing the Muslim terrorist thing to keep everyone in fear and divide society, you sure don't seem to recognize the same thing going on now. Media inflating the risks of covid to keep people in fear and divide society. It's still a 99.5% survival rate and 5 million out of 7.8 billion. And they've got you so terrified, you go along with tyranny. In this you are a total hypocrite.

Good for you, you're becoming the best little sheep ever! Don't read anything the government doesn't want you to read. Go along with everything. No questions asked. Obey, obey, obey. That really worked out well for the German citizenry, didn't it? Have fun loading the stinking dead bodies on the trucks....... Hypocrite.

The problem is the narrative has completely changed on that. Now, vulnerable people are no longer responsible for their own health. You have to sacrifice yours for them, sacrifice your livelihood, sacrifice your children, sacrifice your way of life. If they get sick, it's not because they're elderly or chose to eat junk food and not exercise most of their lives - it's YOUR fault!

Mr. Trudeau (Senior) put it rather eloquently one time. "Canadians are a simple lot, easy to please. A bottle of beer, a hockey game..." To which his son responded in kind... "Let them have drugs."

I didn't say it was a government mandate. It's just odd that the government is saying it's okay for grocery stores to ban certain people from buying food. Especially when that wasn't the case at the height of the pandemic, when no one was vaccinated. Now with over 80% vaccinated and a 99.5% survival rate, they're telling grocery stores they have governmental permission to ban? It's clear this has nothing to do with health and safety. Did you read the article I posted where they didn't find any coronavirus in grocery stores? So why would the government give permission to do so? This all makes good sense to you?????????

You mean gullible, poorly educated, overly emotional halfwits are being manipulated for the benefit of oligarchs and billionaires? Who could have guessed?

I don't want to ban people from doing things they should be able to do that's you if you want to ban or mandate things with no good reason then it's on you to prove the juice is worth the sqeeze not on the people who don't want to be restricted to prove that it isn't the default is siding against any ban or mandate unless there is a good reason for it not siding with any ban or mandate unless there is a mountain of proof it sucks like innocent until proven guilty, you want to ban and mandate, so provide the evidence to warrant it, or btfo

Many are asking the same thing. Perhaps what we are seeing is a form of population control. How else can we stop the train wreck we are on, technological society gone mad, in a race for supremacy over one another. Too many rats in the cage, and the supercomputers showed them what to do. Everything must be shut down as quickly as possible. The advent of Thunbergian society. .... The psychological impact of covid restrictions on our social life is an issue not being discussed. Instilling fear of contact with others, especially at a young age. Restrictions on gatherings and on meeting new people. Eventually this must have an impact on the birth rate. Results for the google query "worldwide child births under covid" https://www.google.com/search?q=worldwide+child+births+under+covid Examples from page one- Birthrates are declining globally – here's why it matters - The ... https://www.weforum.org › agenda › 2021/06 › birthra... Jun 15, 2021 — In many countries, COVID-19 has suppressed population growth by causing a decline in births, migration and life expectancy. Even before the ... Early assessment of the relationship between the COVID-19 ... https://www.pnas.org › content by A Aassve · 2021 · Cited by 1 — (15) find that the rate of decline in births increased, on average, ... 37% (34%) of the total reported COVID-19 cases (deaths) worldwide. The coming COVID-19 baby bust is here - Brookings Institution https://www.brookings.edu › up-front › 2021/05/05 › t... May 5, 2021 — New data show 40000 "missing births" in the final months of 2020, confirming Melissa Kearney and Phil Levine's analysis which predicted a ... Half a million fewer children? The coming COVID baby bust https://www.brookings.edu › research › half-a-million-f... Jun 15, 2020 — The decline in births could be on the order of 300,000 to 500,000 fewer births next year. We base this expectation on lessons drawn from ... From boom to bust - why lockdown hasn't led to more babies https://www.bbc.com › news › world-56415248 Mar 18, 2021 — "I'm sitting indoors in the years when I can have a child." US birth rate falls during pandemic · Covid 'could set women's equality back 25 ... The number of births in Canada has fallen to a 15-year low ... https://globalnews.ca › covid-declining-birth-rate-canada Oct 2, 2021 — An expert said the declining birth rate can also be pinned to ... said the COVID-19 pandemic proved to be “the opposite of a baby boom,” ... Potential Effects of the COVID-19 Pandemic on Future Birth Rate https://www.frontiersin.org › fpubh.2020.578438 › full Influences of COVID-19 Pandemic on Fertility Rate Worldwide · by M Ullah · 2020 · Cited by 21 — This highly contagious disease originated in China, and rapidly spread worldwide, ... Global Baby Drought of Covid-19 Crisis Risks Population ... https://www.bloomberg.com › news › articles › global-... Mar 13, 2021 — A dropping birth rate is particularly evident in Italy, one of the first outbreak hotspots. Births in 15 cities there plummeted 22% in December, ... How the coronavirus pandemic is affecting birthrates worldwide https://www.washingtonpost.com › world › 2020/07/15 Jul 15, 2020 — Coronavirus baby boom or bust? How the pandemic is affecting birthrates worldwide. A woman holds a packet of contraceptive pills in Harare, ...

anything to the right of woke commies isn't far right Canada is far left you just never noticed because you are one of them you are trapped in Canada’s Overton Window and mistake people who are right of the left to be far right extremists simply because they are to the right of Canada's far left consensus NPC City you live in a giant Jonestown satisfied that you made the right call because you're drinking the kool-aid too

Who brought Omicron here? The vaccinated.

But even if 100% of the population was vaccinated, there will still be breakthrough cases and viral spread. Yes the prevalence would be lower, but the mandate enforcement would be violent. In Canada the Covid death rate wouldn’t fall much lower, as our population is mostly vaccinated. Covid is shifting to flu status as it spreads. We’re gaining the antibodies through infection or vaccination. As with the flu, vulnerable populations will need to be more careful. Boosters will account for new variants and treatments will improve. That’s it. We must lift restrictions and shift to acceptable risk and personal responsibility. We need to decide as a society whether to live in permanent fearful separation and masking or a normal social realm with reasonable caution. So far Canada has rejected freedom and reasonable caution. Many US states have shifted to acceptable risk and personal responsibility. Some might have higher death rates, but they’re freer societies and right now I know where I’d rather be. It isn’t Canada.

But the dirty bastard isn't as rich as the traveling bastard.

Margaret Atwood was wrong. Canada is not a question/story/narrative of "survival". We Canadians get along. That's our story/narrative.

This virus is not going away until everyone in the world is vaccinated...and the 3 rd world is not doing so well. But we are still panicking here because we have not reached 90 % or better. So this is what we do we continue to let people travel, and they keep coming back with new variants.... we are OK with cutting people off, from almost everything in their lives but we have this thing about travel that we are willing to die over...anyone swinging that axe, nope...but lets tell the neighbor hey your not allowed outside you dirty bastards...

We already do pay for it, and if we can afford to payout 30 bil for the first year and 9 bil every year after just for daycare, then i say we can afford it...Wait the liberals have lots of new programs that could be used , but health care does not rate with Canadians and it is not that we don't think it needs to be fixed, Canadians don't get cash back from health care thats why they don't support it...It's all about the money babe....

Either way, the mistake rate is the same.

Let's be realistic in assessment of the health care system. Piece of crap before covid. Canadians need to figure out where their heads are on this. It's time to make better plans. Health care should not be a zero-sum game.

Interesting stuff - so because of the remote possibility of these people needing a hospital bed, they will be executed. Speak about pro-active measures. Nothing can be more radical than that.

Private Health Care alongside existing Public care. Those who wish and afford pay for their health care in privately own hospitals and clinics and test centers and the existing public fund remains for those we can't afford or choose public care. More doctors and nurses become available and earlier tests for everyone Competition among private health organization would bring better care and health care professionals become answerable to patients in private care because they are paid by patients to be answerable and responsible.

Thanks for the gossip and innuendo Beave, but that's not what adult conversations are about. The last time you spoke on this issue you posted a couple of articles that showed pictures of Trump and Epstein together, one article was about a party in the late '90s, the other was from 2001 iirc. If not 2001 then 2003. You have nothing more current or you'd post it. Regarding Clinton & Trump, let's not pretend that either one of them wasn't partying like bachelors in 1999. Let's not pretend that women aren't at their most attractive between 22-35. It's the same for men. Billionaires and men of power love to have sex with women in that age range, and given the chance to have sex with a Playboy bunny in secrecy, almost all of the married men that you love and respect will jump at the chance so get over it. Also, saying that someone "likes their women on the younger side" doesn't mean that they like children. Learn the effing language. I really doubt that Epstein's island was primarily about sex with minors. Sure, that's the highly illegal/immoral part (and there were adult prostitutes there as well), but it's more likely about power and networking, and using people's perversions against them for leverage. There are places like that in the ME, Europe, Asia and everywhere. Marco Polo wrote about places like that centuries ago. There are/have been tens of thousands of such places in human history. (Actually, in most cases, they were probably far worse places because Epstein/Maxwell just conned girls and women into going there. I have no doubt that there are still hundreds places on earth where sex slaves are forced to do those things) Just be glad that you live in a culture that is showing less and less tolerance for the existence of such places and stop trying to politicize them. Keep your eyes on the prize: Ghislaine needs to pay a huge price for her part in this. It's important that she's exposed as a heinous criminal and not a victim. She is from an incredibly wealthy and powerful family, she didn't need to become a madam.

And yet these health care professionals are who rely upon to make critical medical decisions on Covid 19. or for that matter anything related to health care really...

If there was any chance that she'd be snitching on Dems she'd be long gone by now.

Clinton was a frequent visitor, and his itinerary as a past prez was a matter of public record. It would literally be impossible to keep his name out of it. It's even beneficial for the Dems to throw him under the bus now (like they did with Al Franken) to give their younger generation more credibility because Bill and Hillary are done like dinner anyways. They don't have enough political capital left to run for co-Mayors of Podunk. It seems as though Trump banned Epstein from Mar A Lago at the beginning of the century but people on this site try to make it seem as though Epstein and Trump were the closest of friends until JE died. Beaverfever was using links from 1999 and 2001 to make his case, and I know that he's getting his fake stories and misleading ammo from some alt-left source with a lot of reach. For sure implicating Trump would be Ghislaine's shining star, and she can do it with no more than a weak rumour (like Dr Ford did to Kavanaugh) but I'm thinking that there will be a lot of smaller players than Trump & Clinton named. The second feather in Ghislaine's cap will be making it look like it's a largely Republican scandal, even though Epstein was a major Demmie donor. The left wing media loves to target Gov's Abbot and DeSantis, Sen Cruz, congressmen Jordan and Gaetz, etc. Ghislaine just has to drop their names innocuously and it will be enough for the left wing media to whip their stooges into a Bork/Kavanaugh - type frenzy. If Ghislaine can use this trial to start a GOP witch hunt that helps to lessen the mid-term massacre in 2022, I can promise you that she'll get a sweetheart deal. Maybe even the highest honour of all in leftist circles - victim status ? Dems/FBI: "You make Epstein, Trump, white privilege and the GOP look like the villains here, we will let you play the victim like Jussie Smollett." You know it's true. That's how the game is played now in DC.