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China does not give help to any other country without strings attached and dark ulterior motives. H1N1 came from China. SARS came from China.Bird flu came from China. Does anyone see a pattern here? Unfortunately,I can't see much changing in the future after this latest virus(China) runs it's course. Wet markets will continue to operate, cheap,poor quality goods will continue to flow from China to the developed world. Business as usual. A prophetic article from 2017: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/china-ground-zero-future-pandemic-180965213/

It's about CONTROL, you see Rue. We need to stop all of them... FIRE ALARMS, TRAFFIC LIGHTS, SIRENS ON AMBULANCES... IT'S THOSE GODDAM BILDERBERGS

- In July 2019, China steals our infectious disease secrets at our National Microbiology Lab in Winnipeg: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/chinese-researcher-escorted-from-infectious-disease-lab-amid-rcmp-investigation-1.5211567 - January 25th 2020, the first case of a Canadian with COVID-19 is identified. His test is sent to the National Microbiology Lab in Winnipeg for confirmation, the same lab the above secrets were stolen by China. - On Feb. 9th, announced by Global Affairs Canada: "To support China’s ongoing response to the outbreak, Canada has deployed approximately 16 tonnes of personal protective equipment, such as clothing, face shields, masks, goggles and gloves to the country since February 4, 2020": https://www.canada.ca/en/global-affairs/news/2020/02/canada-supports-chinas-ongoing-response-to-novel-coronavirus-outbreak.html - Since then, China has returned the favour by hoarding all of the masks its factories manufacture. China accounts for half of all mask production worldwide: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/13/business/masks-china-coronavirus.html Now Canada has a mask shortage, our healthcare workers need them. What kind of idiot naive government does this? François-Philippe Champagne, Minister of Foreign Affairs, should be forced to resign.

It is your right to contend that I do not engage in intellectual discourse. But you failed to provide any proof, outside of your obtuse opinion. Yes. Just like the proof you failed to provide, when claiming I engaged in subjective comments trying to intellectualize misguided characterizations of trying to repress homosexual desires by posing any human can unlearn being gay. And since you have never met me nor know whatever it is that I embody, in life, then I do not need to bother asking how that line of thinking is working out for you ... Which is why you see no question there. Mainly because you made it very, clear, how your line of thinking is working out for you. It's a flawed foundation because it is not based in, logic, that you feel nothing wrong with approaching humans with the whimsical bizarre claims you make ---at people you've never encountered in life. Moreover I argue that you have engaged in, colossal dishonesty, if you claim that I tried to define other people's behavior at any point here. As I reviewed your posts at others here especially before I posted here, I saw the huge difference between you and I. A colossal difference which your emotional intelligence likely could never get cognizant of; I love to invite people to help me understand their thinking yes so then we all can respect and revere each other, easier, whereas you are not like that. Because you enjoy your right to disregard what other people think, whenever it is not inline with narratives that your narcissism has polluted your reasoning and rationale with. And considering that my posts here do exactly reveal that I love and respect and engage all humans no matter if heterosexual or homosexual, plus how I never mentioned anything about anyone unlearning to be Jewish, as well as the fact that I never said a word about any Tom Cruise nor anxiety? It further highlights how your opinions here are guided only by your, narcissism, or perhaps any hallucinogens you ingested. And please, do not get back to me ---not with your curriculum nor for anything else here. lol. I think I will be doing myself a huge, service, by steering clear of the misery which you burden this great website with. But if you ever want to talk in person/need veracious help loosing yourself from, demons, then hey give me a holler if you're ever in the Bloor/Yonge Street area of the big 6

Hey Reefer, good to see you're still upright and breathing. The only cure for the virus that's long long infected our governance remains the same as it was when I started posting here...hence the name eyeball. This is basically what the public is limited to using when monitoring what our governments are up to. Here is what our governments have in mind for using on us. Anything wrong with this picture folks? I certainly don't mind being surveilled where it matters when protecting a public interest, I've spent many many hours after all labouring under the watchful eyes of cameras, GPS, AIS, GIS, a paper trail a mile wide and even human observers on occasion to justify my existence to various layers of managers and investors in the economy. I've even paid for the cost of my own oversight. It's just that I'd like to know what my betters are up to as well. Why is that so weird and difficult for so many people to get their heads around or their asses behind any kind of a push to make it happen? I'm quite certain that had we outlawed in-camera lobbying even a decade ago we'd be that less farther behind our efforts to contain this crisis of governance.

Now hang on we do have countries like India where they drive without all that stuff you know. Even in countries where they have that stuff not everyone follows it. You driven in Rome....Tel Aviv.. Mumbai...Bathurst and Finch in Toronto....Miami.. Paris? Control. The concept is deeply interconnected with anxiety that is for sure but is over- rated. Sometimes common courtesy is far more effective..ah but then people would need to freely decide to be polite...imagine preaching such values as individual choices not government imposed mandatory edicts...is that even possible? Could Jesus exist today without armed disciples zapping people if they were not showing love? Control. Remember Get Smart? Maxwell Smart never really could stop Chaos...on the other hand this current attempt at house arrest reminds me of a 50's sit com. No one leaves home ..no one works and it's all black and white. I much preferred Gomar Pyle.

Work on it some more. I think people are disagreeing with what they say. Some people anyway. Today Friday the roads were busier than ever. Eventually a kind of virus fatigue could set in, people don't want to pay attention to the virus any more. That is really the only way the virus will go away. Otherwise, it never does.

Yep....the Liberals overreached and tried to undermine Parliament...for years. Let's toss all the usual terms about...."banana republic"...."failed government"...."legislative coup"...."dictatorship". "Never let a serious crisis go to waste".....

They knew what they were doing. They think they know what's good for everyone, they probably thought they had good intentions. The path to evil is paved with good intentions.

B_C, I favour America. I appreciate your Constitution. I even defended Trump. But America is now facing a threat that is different. Comparison? It is like Pearl Harbor 1941 - but you don't know it. To defeat this enemy, you must play together. Like after 1941. ====== a) Printing tons of (Keynesian) money will not solve this problem. (Talk about solving the last war.) b) Individual effort will not solve this problem. (Clint Eastwood is wrong.) ===== You Americans will do this. Iceland did it. We people in Quebec are doing it.

https://www.spencerfernando.com/2020/03/25/photo-chart-shows-how-terrible-the-trudeau-liberals-coronavirus-response-has-been/?fbclid=IwAR3TgMMPFDmdUjitHYkoRCRqAlzxzvVdKdPtFhYcwZMlHz2MFewMlw2eTNM Here's a chart that shows how Trudeau did nothing, did nothing, did nothing and then did nothing for a bit longer until all of a sudden this was a crisis which required unlimited spending powers for the government.

Bicuspid aortic stenosis...acute stage. Little fuckers been in there growing since I was born too I guess. It is what it is...I'll just have to train my deckhand to lay me out on the wheelhouse floor if I keel over and do single foot chest compressions while steering the boat home.

My source is the OP. Contains a few links to read.

I just want to see someone who's not living in the 1980's still. I saw this article in the Globe a little while ago, and it echoes a lot of my sentiments. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-the-tories-need-a-leader-with-vision-or-risk-losing-young/ Natalie Pon, a cool, smart chick from out west and a fair bit younger than your average conservative, lays it out pretty clearly. Hanging on to outdated social conservative values, particularly on gay marriage and stuff like that, is going to keep the conservatives out of power for a long time. The ship has sailed on a lot of these matters, and as the younger generation continues to take on a bigger and bigger role in politics and the economy, ignoring them in favor of Bible-Thumpers in Quebec or the Prairies, or clinging to the Harper-era old guard is going to leave Trudeau and pals firmly entrenched.

Namaste or a wave will have to suffice.

The government is not asking us to do anything particularly daunting. To start, stay home for a few weeks. They're not asking us to hand our firstborn to the army and our second-born to the navy. You're using another straw-man here and pretending the government is asking us to accept anything is justified. They're not. The stimulus bill Trudeau tried to pass was a bit of a turd and he overstepped there, but accepting some short-term self-isolation is not the end of the world that you make it out to be. The curious thing about this sort of mindset is that on one hand, you're telling us that the fear-mongering over the virus is exaggerated and hyped, but then you're doing the same thing with the theories about the government grasping and about how the sacred "economy" being sacrificed (never to recover I guess?). That too is exaggerated. Coming out of the current crisis, governments will have been served a rude awakening and will be more serious about future preparedness. It will ultimately be an expensive lesson to learn, but the one thing that western economies continue to do successfully is ignore their problems until they blow up in their face.

Rue there's something to be said about bureaucratic ineptitude and political agendas. I've little faith in the UN myself and don't doubt that the WHO is mired in red tape, but that doesn't mean that everything they do and say is wrong. They have in the past had tremendous success dealing with other diseases. Regardless, we can simply ignore the WHO and the UN altogether and see that health experts around the world are saying the same things. Even in the US, doctors and epidemiologists etc. have been sounding the alarm for weeks/months, so you're not just dismissing the WHO. You're dismissing the global health apparatus and doctors everywhere. Apparently you've heard from "immunologists", but we can't really debate that. Unless you can source some reputable material we don't really have much to work with there. While pointing to South Korea, Singapore and Taiwan DOES show us how things could/should work, you know as well as I do that they're not an option here - not yet. For reasons both of us have pointed to, those countries are much better prepared. Among those that weren't (like Europe, Canada and the USA) we're seeing things unfold as the experts you discredit predicted, and it's going to continue to get worse before it gets better. As for going back to work, I don't think it's really clear what you're advocating. I thought I made it pretty clear that some sort of slow and pensive return to work would eventually be possible, but not yet - not while cases are spiking. I do agree that we can't just shutter the economy for 8 months, but we DO need to be really serious about things over the next couple.

The biological weapon escaped containment from their military grade french made laboratory in Wuhan

I think the 2-year power grab by Trudeau and friends is the biggest failure of them so far in all this. It's truly disgusting for any patriot to try and use this crisis to grab power that long. Politicians should be stepping up to serve this country, not play games like that. Disgraceful.

So worth noting the EU has banned the shipment of PPE outside its borders. This follows earlier bans from France and Germany, and also, of course, China and Taiwan. Apparently no one in Canada ever considered this might become an issue. No public health agency in Canada bothered to stockpile much of anything. Ontario apparently did stockpile 55 million N95 masks after the SARS epidemic, but over the following years, as the expiration dates arrived (because elastics get less elastic) they destroyed them. No one bothered to replace the destroyed masks, though, because, apparently, they thought there was no possibility of an epidemic ever happening again. We don't make masks in Canada. We buy them on the just-on-time ordering system from places like Europe, China and Taiwan. We don't make the gowns either, nor the face shields, nor the gloves, nor ventilators, nor the swabs we need to test for disease, nor the chemicals we need to conduct the tests. And no one stockpiled much of anything. These people making big salaries with golden pensions who were in charge of Canada's federal and provincial public health agencies, including that moron Theresa Tam, in charge of Canada's Public Health Agency, who is apparently an infectious disease specialist, never saw the need. These people need to be fired, and we need, even after this mess is contained, to start stockpiling, set up our own manufacturing lines, and order all public agencies to buy from them, even if it costs more.

Why, what will happen? People will be poor? Yeah, being poor sucks. Shortages everywhere? Yeah, that would suck too. Still, being poor is preferable to being dead. I don't have money in the stock market, so I'm not losing anything there. I expect the value of my townhouse will drop dramatically, by $100,000.00, maybe more. Oh well. I expect to have to pay higher taxes under a Conservative Gov't within a couple of years when we need to reduce the deficit. So what? Being poor(er) and alive is a better alternative to dying or losing someone I love because some people put a higher value on "the economy" than the health and life of other people.

Trump still has the power to overwhelm a thread about how Trudeau has failed Canada on COVID-19.

Not everything Trump does is wrong. Just most. Like his handling of the pandemic. The USA, far and away, has the highest acceleration of new cases and will unfortunately blow by all others. Trump's reaction has resulted in poor outcomes. They will need to have lots of beds, ventilators and qualified personnel ready. Great Source: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

It would be helpful if politicians remember the private sector is well-placed to help get us through this crisis--if politicians would recall that it is the private sector that innovates. An example from the U.S.: 'Walgreens has supplied people, facilities and parking lots so Americans can drive in for virus tests.' Philip Cross: Trudeau should take Trump's lead and rally the private sector to help fight COVID-19

Wishful thinking. Canada seems to be ahead of what was expected, but we still have not hit the peak yet. Good news coming out of most locations in China, Taiwan, Japan and South Korea. They are about three months ahead of us. So if we manage to place the same measures, we could get there in a couple of months to three months.

Not every tweet, just enough to see what he was focused on. Justin Trudeau is not getting out much these days either....so he will be using Twitter even more.

I agree wholeheartedly. Trump is alleged to have told 5 a day on average since his inauguration. He's not unlike Trudeau - another lying sack of shit if there ever was one.

Oh my goodness! Unbelievable! She's lucky they weren't greeted with a deluge of disinfectant sprays!

Says who you or his doctor? Are you privy to the medical advise that it stands to reason Trudeau must be getting? Is there a new protocol for negative people who live with positives? As I've been given to understand if someone in my household gets sick they're to be quarantined in a separate room while everyone else remains quarantined in the house. In any case we have a deputy PM who seems to be doing a fine job and it wouldn't surprise me to find that Trudeau is actually able to get more done from behind the scenes.

Trudeau’s pandemic team,

We all saw the movie dude, and if Britain had a leader as weak as Trudeau in charge, they wouldn’t have lasted long enough to need Turing. I can promise you that.

Well, I take it back. It delayed the initial arrival. But both Canada and the US Didn't seem to use the time to prepare.

Our government failed like most other governments did. Definitely not as bad as the governments down South. Our government had the benefit of seeing other countries experiencing the epidemic ahead of them. They didn't move fast enough. At the same time, other variables should also be noted, like: The citizens of countries like China, Taiwan, The Koreas, Japan and Singapore are for the most part, obedient to their government. They are less individualistic and more collective. Mass testing and masks for everyone are essential to control the spread. We still lack those and so we will continue to see the numbers climb up quickly.

This isn’t about being Canadian. The topic is about whether the Canadian government has handled the crisis properly.

Pence should resign and Steve Harvey should be Trump's running mate. He'd get the black vote. The blacks love Family Feud.