bush_cheney2004 Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 50 minutes ago, Gaétan said: The Chinese president should take advantage of the American president’s visit to China to place him under arrest, hospitalize him, try to treat him, and hand him over to the IInternational Criminal Court of Justice. Good luck with that...China has never ratified the Rome Statute (ICC) for the same reasons that the USA has not done so. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Gaétan Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 41 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Good luck with that...China has never ratified the Rome Statute (ICC) for the same reasons that the USA has not done so. China can prosecute foreign criminals if Chinese interests are affected, for example the blocking of the Strait of Hormuz that prevents Iranian oil from reaching China. Canada, on the other hand, has a law that allows it to prosecute foreign criminals—such as war criminals—if they are physically present in Canada. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 6 minutes ago, Gaétan said: China can prosecute foreign criminals if Chinese interests are affected, for example the blocking of the Strait of Hormuz that prevents Iranian oil from reaching China. In 1999, President Clinton's USAF bombed the Chinese embassy in Belgrade with a B-2, killing three and injuring 27 Chinese nationals. The Chinese protested, Clinton apologized, money changed hands, and face was saved. No mention of war crimes or the ICC. ...so don't hold your breath this time around. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Gaétan Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 4 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: In 1999, President Clinton's USAF bombed the Chinese embassy in Belgrade with a B-2, killing three and injuring 27 Chinese nationals. The Chinese protested, Clinton apologized, money changed hands, and face was saved. No mention of war crimes or the ICC. ...so don't hold your breath this time around. It wasn't the same thing Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 9 minutes ago, Gaétan said: It wasn't the same thing Agreed...the B-2 bombing of a Chinese embassy was far worse. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 President Trump had some fun with Japanese Prime Minister Sanae Takaichi today when a reporter from Japan asked why the U.S. did not alert allies about the planned attack on Iran. Quote Taking questions from reporters, Trump said he would call on a “beautiful person from Japan.” Asked why he didn’t tell allies like Japan about the conflict in Iran ahead of time, Trump invoked the Dec. 7, 1941 bombing in Hawaii. “You don’t want to signal too much… We didn’t tell anybody about it because we wanted surprise,” he responded. “Who knows better about surprise than Japan? Why didn’t you tell me about Pearl Harbor?” Trump added jokingly to Takaichi. https://thehill.com/policy/international/5791865-trump-japan-takaichi-pearl-harbor-iran-war/ Nevertheless, some allies including Japan are now leaning towards helping to keep open the Strait of Hormuz. 2 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
CdnFox Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 18 hours ago, Gaétan said: The Chinese president should take advantage of the American president’s visit to China to place him under arrest, hospitalize him, try to treat him, and hand him over to the IInternational Criminal Court of Justice. So you're saying you support the unlawful capture and murder a foreign leaders now? 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted March 20 Report Posted March 20 (edited) On 3/18/2026 at 10:28 AM, Goddess said: After years of the Liberals in Canada stating demand for oil is going to crater any second now, the Iran War has the world scrambling for..........oil. In the short term but in the end this will likelier only push the world harder in the direction of alternatives. Now is when we should be taxing windfall war profits to hasten the development of alternatives. Edited March 20 by eyeball 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Goober National Posted March 20 Report Posted March 20 On 3/18/2026 at 1:28 PM, Goddess said: After years of the Liberals in Canada stating demand for oil is going to crater any second now, the Iran War has the world scrambling for..........oil. The US has in recent years become energy independent, thanks to Donald Trump during his first presidency. Shutting down the straight of Hormuz does not cut the US's supply, but it does cut the supply for most e\veryone else, especially China, and Russia. That's why they want it to happen. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted March 20 Report Posted March 20 4 minutes ago, Goober National said: The US has in recent years become energy independent, thanks to Donald Trump during his first presidency. Shutting down the straight of Hormuz does not cut the US's supply, but it does cut the supply for most e\veryone else, especially China, and Russia. That's why they want it to happen. You are still in ports oil for a variety of reasons. As we've seen price is in America for gas and oil have shot up so it definitely does impact the US one way or another Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Hodad Posted March 20 Report Posted March 20 (edited) 1 hour ago, Goober National said: The US has in recent years become energy independent, thanks to Donald Trump during his first presidency. Shutting down the straight of Hormuz does not cut the US's supply, but it does cut the supply for most e\veryone else, especially China, and Russia. That's why they want it to happen. "Energy independent" doesn't mean we are actually independent in terms of being insulated from these shocks. It means net independence when you add up what we export be what we import of all types of energy. Oil is a global commodity. The fact that we produce so much oil domestically doesn't mean that our price is any different than what supply and demand dictate in the global marketplace, because our oil companies sell into that global marketplace. If we nationalized our oil industry, that would be a different matter, but as long as oil companies are for-profit ventures with an obligation to maximize shareholder value, they are going to sell to the highest bidder. So, yes, prices are skyrocketing here because of Trump's misadventures in Iran. Inflation will follow. The Fed will not be able to cut rates. There's quite an extensive impact. Edited March 20 by Hodad Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted March 20 Report Posted March 20 34 minutes ago, Hodad said: There's quite an extensive impact. Well said. One analysts view of this... Whether he's right or wrong about the timing or pbl if it lasts too long it's going to have a massive impact. I know they're asking for another $200B which says it's going to continue, but an exit strategy looks pretty good right about now too. The Strait of Hormuz must be opened in days, not weeks, to avoid global recession risks – BofA head of research Mar 19, 2026 at 11:25 AM ETCrude Oil Futures (CL1:COM), CO1:COM, SPGSIAUCO, USO, DBO, UNG, USL, UNL, BOIL, OILKBy: Monica L. Correa, SA News Editor Follow Seeking Alpha on Google for the latest stock news The current Middle East conflict could escalate rapidly, potentially driving oil prices (CO1:COM), (CL1:COM) above $200 per barrel if disruptions persist for multiple months, according to Francisco Blanch, head of Commodities and Derivatives Research at Bank of America Global Research. In an interview with CNBC, Blanch emphasized that high energy prices and supply disruptions are creating significant risks of a global recession, with current estimates showing an eight-percentage-point gap in global energy supplies. Blanch identified two critical factors that must be addressed to prevent a global economic downturn: protecting critical energy infrastructure from further strikes and immediately reopening the Strait of Hormuz. “When I say quickly, I mean days, not weeks or months,” Blanch said, underscoring the urgency of the situation. He noted that roughly one percentage point of energy is needed for every percentage point of global GDP, making the current supply gap particularly alarming. The analyst explained that soaring commodity prices are essentially forcing what he called “demand destruction” across the global economy. “Demand destruction is essentially another term for economic activity contraction or recession, whichever way you want to call it,” Blanch stated. Prices, he said, are serving as a signal to effectively force people and businesses out of their normal consumption patterns. The crisis is already triggering widespread industrial and agricultural fallouts beyond the oil markets. Blanch pointed to factories in Asia shutting down on the petrochemical front, the Philippines moving to a four-day work week, and Thailand instructing workers to stay home, while overnight strikes at a GTL plant connected to fertilizer production are putting additional pressure on agriculture. Aluminum (SPGSIA), the most energy-intensive metal, is particularly vulnerable to the energy price surge. While the U.S. is somewhat more insulated as a net energy exporter, Blanch cautioned that the situation remains “frail” for American consumers. Dubai crude has already spiked to $170 per barrel, and Japanese natural gas has reached $26 per MMBtu, though domestic measures like waiving the Jones Act are being implemented to mitigate impacts on U.S. consumers. Blanch’s baseline scenario assumes a relatively quick resolution to the conflict, but he warned that a prolonged crisis would push prices even higher. “We can see prices spiking over $200 a barrel as soon as the market believes that this can be a multi-month operation,” he said, adding that without the return of disrupted supplies, very high prices will be necessary to continue rationing global demand. 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted March 20 Author Report Posted March 20 On 3/17/2026 at 4:59 PM, herbie said: Duhhh! You haven't intervened in Ukraine you American Idjut, you just sent some arms. No. We have troops there. They are just, what you call, privatized. Privately funded militia that aren't official American troops but consist entirely of American trained and retired military. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
herbie Posted March 20 Report Posted March 20 6 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: No. We have troops there. They are just, what you call, privatized. Privately funded militia that aren't official American troops but consist entirely of American trained and retired military Is Roland the Headless Thompson Gybber among them? 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted March 20 Author Report Posted March 20 11 minutes ago, herbie said: Is Roland the Headless Thompson Gybber among them? BBC: Wanted: multilingual former soldiers willing to covertly head into Ukraine for the handsome sum of up to $2,000 (£1,523) per day - plus bonus - to help rescue families from an increasingly grim conflict. Why are private military companies playing such a major role in Ukraine? Willful ignorance is a feature of the left. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Michael Hardner Posted March 20 Report Posted March 20 45 minutes ago, herbie said: Is Roland the Headless Thompson Gybber among them? No... maybe you didn't hear that that son of a b1tch Van Owen blew off Roland's head... Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
herbie Posted March 21 Report Posted March 21 4 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: Why are private military companies playing such a major role in Ukraine? Willful ignorance is a feature of the left. As he shows the ignorance off by using the newspeak that "private military' doesn't mean f-cking lowlife mercenaries. Roland and VanOwen would be so proud to be called heros today. Quote
herbie Posted March 21 Report Posted March 21 3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: No... maybe you didn't hear Kid called Roland does lawns and snow removal for me. When I called him 'the headless thompson gunner' I had to tell him to ask his parents. Next time he grinned and said he was just an excitable boy... 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted March 21 Author Report Posted March 21 4 hours ago, herbie said: As he shows the ignorance off by using the newspeak that "private military' doesn't mean f-cking lowlife mercenaries. Roland and VanOwen would be so proud to be called heros today. Oh. You don't know what a mercenary is. Why didn't you Googke it? mercenary /mûr′sə-nĕr″ē/ adjective Motivated solely by a desire for monetary or material gain. Hired for service in a foreign army. Acting for reward; serving for pay; paid; hired; hireling; venal. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
herbie Posted March 21 Report Posted March 21 Resort ti semantics will you? They are not in the US Army are they? They're hired. Therefore they're mercenaries, as low, despicable as scumbag as any hired by the Congo, the old Rhodesia or some S American rebel group. Glorifying the scum of the earth, no wonder you love DJT so much. Quote
John Stone Posted March 21 Report Posted March 21 (edited) I still chuckle recalling the Meng Wanzhou debacle. Canada's (Justin) attempt at international politics. Word to the wise, 'u don't tug on Superman's cape'? The 'law' is only as good as your ability to enforce it combined with your willingness to attempt it. Edited March 21 by John Stone Quote
Gaétan Posted March 21 Report Posted March 21 U.S. senators and members of Congress are corrupted by the arms industry; when an American missile hits a school and kills 200 young girls, they say ‘good, it increases our profits Quote
Radiorum Posted March 22 Report Posted March 22 Trump started a war the USA cannot win and cannot afford. The world has turned their backs on this id*ot. But, hey, Google searches on Epstein files plummeted! Quote
paxamericana Posted March 22 Report Posted March 22 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Radiorum said: Trump started a war the USA cannot win and cannot afford. You sure about that? Everyone of America’s enemy made the same mistake high on copium. Edited March 22 by paxamericana Quote
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