Iran War

[paxamericana]

4 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

All you Trump supporters, just wait. 

For what? That the terrorist will win? I wouldn’t hold my breath on that one. Trump is making the necessary sacrifices now to avoid greater bloodshed down the road. Freedom isn’t free.

Edited March 22 by paxamericana

[Radiorum]

2 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

For what?

For Trump to finish his golf game at Mar-a-Lago

 

3 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

Trump is making the necessary sacrifices now to avoid greater bloodshed down the road. Freedom isn’t free.

Lol!!! Trump making sacrifices!!!!!

[Radiorum]

22 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

Lol!!! Trump making sacrifices!!!!!

Miriam and Sheldon Adelson have donated over $600 million to Trump. They are extreme pro-Israel Zionists and are very hawkish where Iran is concerned. Sheldon once advocated for dropping a nuclear bomb on Iran.

Maybe Trump's hardline policies against Iran follow from the Adelsons.

 

[Reg Volk]

2 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

Miriam and Sheldon Adelson have donated over $600 million to Trump. They are extreme pro-Israel Zionists and are very hawkish where Iran is concerned. Sheldon once advocated for dropping a nuclear bomb on Iran.

Maybe Trump's hardline policies against Iran follow from the Adelsons.

 

if so the Adelsons deserve medals for freeing millions of Iranians from tyranny.  Next up its time for the evil regime in Cuba to fall.

[Radiorum]

2 minutes ago, Reg Volk said:

if so the Adelsons deserve medals for freeing millions of Iranians from tyranny.

Destruction was their consideration, not humanitarianism.

 

2 minutes ago, Reg Volk said:

Next up its time for the evil regime in Cuba to fall.

people are dying by the scores in Cuba right now because of the intervention of the amoral USA

[Radiorum]

Let me get this straight - blocking the Strait of Hormuz is unfair, but collapsing the country of Cuba is fair?

[LinkSoul60]

47 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

Freedom isn’t free.

Absolutely not....  The "Trump Gold Card" attests to that.  $1M to $5M to receive expedited US residency is a lot of money by anyone's standards.

[LinkSoul60]

4 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

Let me get this straight - blocking the Strait of Hormuz is unfair, but collapsing the country of Cuba is fair?

Never argue with stupid people. They'll drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience. 

You can't win...

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Radiorum said:

All you Trump supporters, just wait. 

For what though?

[User]

3 hours ago, Radiorum said:

Miriam and Sheldon Adelson have donated over $600 million to Trump. They are extreme pro-Israel Zionists and are very hawkish where Iran is concerned. Sheldon once advocated for dropping a nuclear bomb on Iran.

Maybe Trump's hardline policies against Iran follow from the Adelsons.

 

Wait a minute, are you telling us that politicians have people they represent and might sometimes agree with their positions that they advocate for and represent them?!

Wow!

What next, will you tell us about how water is wet or how the sky looks blue?

 

[User]

3 hours ago, Radiorum said:

Let me get this straight - blocking the Strait of Hormuz is unfair, but collapsing the country of Cuba is fair?

How exactly is the country of Cuba being collapsed?

You mean... we seized unmarked ships engaged in the black market oil trade headed there and refused sanctioned Russian oil ships going there?

Are you now a big supporter of Russia selling its oil on the black market?

[ironstone]

On 3/22/2026 at 6:55 PM, Radiorum said:

people are dying by the scores in Cuba right now because of the intervention of the amoral USA

It is tragic that people in Cuba are dying but that is primarily due to almost 7 decades of communism.

Fidel however, had a pretty good life during that same period. https://www.forbes.com/sites/keithflamer/2016/11/26/10-surprises-about-castros-extravagant-life/

[Hodad]

6 minutes ago, ironstone said:

It is tragic that people in Cuba are dying but that is primarily due to almost 7 decades of communism.

Fidel however, had a pretty good life during that same period. https://www.forbes.com/sites/keithflamer/2016/11/26/10-surprises-about-castros-extravagant-life/

That's farking nuts. 

It would be like if California cut off food, fuel and medicine to Orange County until it fell apart, and then some asshat said, "Well, just goes to show you the Republican government is a failed system. Hyuk.)

They aren't dying because of communism. We're killing them. They are dying because we've waged economic war on them (for decades, actually).   

 

[ironstone]

8 minutes ago, Hodad said:

That's farking nuts. 

It would be like if California cut off food, fuel and medicine to Orange County until it fell apart, and then some asshat said, "Well, just goes to show you the Republican government is a failed system. Hyuk.)

They aren't dying because of communism. We're killing them. They are dying because we've waged economic war on them (for decades, actually).   

 

Communist Cuba has always been dependent on support from other nations to keep it propped up. 

Cubans do not have the right to vote for a change in government because...that's how communism works. 

[Hodad]

10 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Communist Cuba has always been dependent on support from other nations to keep it propped up. 

Cubans do not have the right to vote for a change in government because...that's how communism works. 

Pre-communist Cuba was dependent on the US. 
Communist Cuba has been embargoed and economically targeted by the US FOR THE ENTIRETY OF ITS EXISTENCE.

See analogy above. It's absurd to blame what's happening in Cuba on communism. The US is actively orchestrating a humanitarian crisis. We're doing it quite deliberately. Blame those responsible, not the victims. 

And FWIW, Cubans do get to vote. There's only one official party, but they do get a voice in steering the direction of the party. 

I'm not defending communism, but it's asinine to point to Cuba as an example of a failed philosophy when we've been working 60+ years to ensure that it fails, even to the extremes we're at today to inflict suffering. 

[bush_cheney2004]

10 hours ago, Hodad said:

They aren't dying because of communism. We're killing them. They are dying because we've waged economic war on them (for decades, actually).   

 

OK...so why would it be any different with Trump ?    Did some people expect otherwise ?

[Hodad]

3 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

OK...so why would it be any different with Trump ?    Did some people expect otherwise ?

He reversed a period of warming relations and in his second term has dramatically escalated the attack. 

As for why, frankly, the core issue is that trump is a bully and a narcissist. Little Cuba has defied the US (primarily by existing as a communist state despite our pressure) and he is personally offended by disobedience. It will get a sloppy veneer of geopolitical urgency (liberating the people of Iran, anyone?) but it's always about Trump with Trump. 

I'd say this is a window to the soul, except he hasn't got one. 
 

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: You know, all my life, I've been hearing about the United States and Cuba. You know, when will the United States do it? I do believe I'll be the honor of - having the honor of taking Cuba. That'd be a good honor. That's a big honor.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Taking Cuba?

TRUMP: Taking Cuba in some form, yeah. Taking Cuba. I mean, whether I free it, take it, think I can do anything I want with it, you want to know the truth. They're a very weakened nation right now.

[Gaétan]

I support the Iranians and Hezbollah because they oppose the genocides and injustices committed by the great prostitute the beast and of its ten horns.

[bush_cheney2004]

16 hours ago, Hodad said:

He reversed a period of warming relations and in his second term has dramatically escalated the attack. 

As for why, frankly, the core issue is that trump is a bully and a narcissist...

 

 

In other words, Trump is just another U.S. president doing what presidents have always done, particularly in the western hemisphere.   Such "bullies" they all be, because it is in the job description.

[eyeball]

On 3/24/2026 at 1:13 PM, ironstone said:

It is tragic that people in Cuba are dying but that is primarily due to almost 7 decades of communism.

Fidel however, had a pretty good life during that same

Just about every Cuban had a longer lifespan than the average American during that time.

[Hodad]

1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

In other words, Trump is just another U.S. president doing what presidents have always done, particularly in the western hemisphere.   Such "bullies" they all be, because it is in the job description.

Neither Obama nor Biden were bullies. And plenty more if you look back. 

I think you know that Trump is a different kind of animal altogether. The basest of because. He occupies the same office, but he has different aims altogether.. No ethics,  no morality, no empathy.. We've worn out the word "unprecedented." 

[Venandi]

22 hours ago, Gaétan said:

I support the Iranians and Hezbollah because they oppose the genocides and injustices committed by the great prostitute the beast and of its ten horns.

So.... does that support extend to deploying nuclear weapons to punish "the great prostitute, the beast, and its ten horns?"

That's what this (and the decision behind it) comes down to... the choice is stark unless you think Iran would never do such a thing (and that's a whole new thread).

Funny how yes and no answers can boil down to absolutes and take on an air of finality eh? 

 

[Gaétan]

41 minutes ago, Venandi said:

So.... does that support extend to deploying nuclear weapons to punish "the great prostitute, the beast, and its ten horns?"

That's what this (and the decision behind it) comes down to... the choice is stark unless you think Iran would never do such a thing (and that's a whole new thread).

Funny how yes and no answers can boil down to absolutes and take on an air of finality eh? 

 

Countries with a history of genocides, such as the United States and Israel, should be the first to give up their bombs and nuclear programs, under penalty of international sanctions — just as offenders should not be allowed to possess weapons.

[bush_cheney2004]

5 hours ago, Hodad said:

Neither Obama nor Biden were bullies. And plenty more if you look back. 

I think you know that Trump is a different kind of animal altogether. The basest of because. He occupies the same office, but he has different aims altogether.. No ethics,  no morality, no empathy.. We've worn out the word "unprecedented." 

 

I disagree...President Obama very much wielded American military and economic power to meet his administration's foreign policy objectives, many of which were continuations of Bush era policies for Iraq and Afghanistan plus the Libya/Gaddafi doublecross,  in some cases doubling down on attacks.

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Example:

 

 

The Obama administration's 2011 intervention against Muammar Gaddafi, viewed by some as a "double cross" after years of uneasy detente, was driven by a combination of humanitarian concerns during the Arab Spring, intense pressure from European allies, and a strategic desire to remove a long-standing dictator, according to analysis of the period. President Obama later stated that the failure to plan for the aftermath of this intervention was the "worst mistake" of his presidency.

 

President Biden authorized military strikes in several nations, including Syria, Yemen, Somalia, Iraq, and Afghanistan.  He used American military power for its intended purpose.   Bill Clinton's Sec'y of State got this right:

 

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Madeleine Albright, as U.S. Secretary of State (1997–2001), championed an "assertive multilateralism" that favored using U.S. military power to advance foreign policy goals, often arguing that America was the "indispensable nation". She was a key architect in the 1999 Kosovo war and favored strong interventionist tactics, including threats of force against Iraq in 1998.

 

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Albright famously asked Colin Powell in 1992: “What's the use of having this superb military you're always talking about if we can't use it?

 

Edited March 26 by bush_cheney2004

[bush_cheney2004]

6 hours ago, eyeball said:

Just about every Cuban had a longer lifespan than the average American during that time.

 

There is more to life than just lifespan.   American 1940s/1950s automobiles have a longer lifespan in Cuba too.