Iran War

[BeaverFever]

5 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

It appears that Isreal has something more than money, to steer the American government with.

They have several

1) Trump family cryptoscam businesses are just secretive dark money bribe mechanisms 

2) Trump family “Executive Branch” bribe club charges a $500,000 per year annual bribe fee to secret list of members 

3) Sleazy Vegas casino billionaires Miriam Adelson and her now deceased husband are Trump’s biggest donors,  personally gave him a quarter billion dollars in the last election,  and are also major rabid pro-Israel Zionists.    Watch Trump praise the fact that she has divided loyalties between US and Israel  and is his biggest donor

4) Since you like conspiracies, how about one based on the FACT that Trump’s longtime best friend and party pal Jeffrey Epstein had deep ties to the Israeli government and intelligence establishment. Does Israel have Kompromat on Trump?

[Reg Volk]

50 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Israel wasn’t conducting any strikes in that part of the country. There are no other countries dumb enough or craven enough to be part of this stupid pointless war. 

lol - "stupid pointless war" - if you are a leftist boob sitting in your armchair at home and not an Iranian woman being beaten for not wearing her hijab properly.  The Left is just so disgusting.

[BeaverFever]

6 minutes ago, Reg Volk said:

lol - "stupid pointless war" - if you are a leftist boob sitting in your armchair at home and not an Iranian woman being beaten for not wearing her hijab properly.  The Left is just so disgusting.

LMAO TRUMP DID NOT GO TO WAR TO RESCUE WOMEN IN HIJABS.

And you don’t give a f-ck about them either so quit your fake moral posturing

Women have it way worse in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and other places in Gulf that You Republicans just love to death.    Why don’t you start there you big phoney?

 

Edited March 17 by BeaverFever

[Nationalist]

12 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

They have several

1) Trump family cryptoscam businesses are just secretive dark money bribe mechanisms 

2) Trump family “Executive Branch” bribe club charges a $500,000 per year annual bribe fee to secret list of members 

3) Sleazy Vegas casino billionaires Miriam Adelson and her now deceased husband are Trump’s biggest donors,  personally gave him a quarter billion dollars in the last election,  and are also major rabid pro-Israel Zionists.    Watch Trump praise the fact that she has divided loyalties between US and Israel  and is his biggest donor

4) Since you like conspiracies, how about one based on the FACT that Trump’s longtime best friend and party pal Jeffrey Epstein had deep ties to the Israeli government and intelligence establishment. Does Israel have Kompromat on Trump?

Ok so...your points 1 & 2 are unprovable nonsense. 

3. Im no fan of Zionists and if Adelson is buying government and Trump outright...her allegiance is questionable and needs to be openly investigated. Im so tired of these Zionists I could spit. It was one thing to quell Gaza...and the way Isreal came to being. But this...this is disgusting. The Americans...and indeed the world at large...needs to cut Isreal loose.

4. That is possible and the longer this goes on, the more speculation about it will continue. 

Edited March 17 by Nationalist

[BeaverFever]

1 minute ago, Nationalist said:

Ok so...your points 1 & 2 are unprovoked nonsense. 

No not really. His family made billions in a mere matter of months after opening these really shady opaque businesses with secret mystery clients. He started an opaque Crypto “investment” businesses and made billions in a matter of months from secret “investors”   The brother of the UAE prince gave Trump half a billion dollars in “investments” and miraculously Trump then removes a UAE-from a list of countries banned from accessing the most advanced quantum computing chips.   
 

They also openly promote an exclusive and private club they started called “Executive Branch” with an annual membership fee of $500,000 per year that offers access to Washington officials. 
 

And then there’s all the sketchy merch ugly low quality sneakers,  ugly low quality watches, worthless NFTs, memes coins etc that are made by mysterious anonymous hard-to trace entities actively attempting to conceal their identity and are being bought by mysterious buyers for absurdly exorbitant prices beyond   
 

This the most on-the-take president the world has ever seen from what was an advanced democracy 

[User]

36 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

LMAO TRUMP DID NOT GO TO WAR TO RESCUE WOMEN IN HIJABS.

And you don’t give a f-ck about them either so quit your fake moral posturing

Women have it way worse in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and other places in Gulf that You Republicans just love to death.    Why don’t you start there you big phoney?

 

You have no regard for the truth. Now you are saying women have it worse in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait?

Women in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia are not required by law nor threatened and beaten up, arrested, or raped by the secret police if they don't. 

You people are so desperate to hate Trump that you now defend Iran. 

 

[BeaverFever]

To quote the columnist Paul Wells:

The American President is now threatening the judiciary, news organizations and NATO with reprisals for insufficient support during a war he chose and hasn't bothered to explain. Having obtained the GOP’s unconditional surrender early on, he expects everybody's.

Just now, User said:

You have no regard for the truth. Now you are saying women have it worse in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait?

Uh yeah. Do you not know about those countries? 

[User]

5 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

 

Uh yeah. Do you not know about those countries? 

Better than you do. 

Again:

Women in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia are not required by law nor threatened and beaten up, arrested, or raped by the secret police if they don't. 

[Nationalist]

24 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

No not really. His family made billions in a mere matter of months after opening these really shady opaque businesses with secret mystery clients. He started an opaque Crypto “investment” businesses and made billions in a matter of months from secret “investors”   The brother of the UAE prince gave Trump half a billion dollars in “investments” and miraculously Trump then removes a UAE-from a list of countries banned from accessing the most advanced quantum computing chips.   
 

They also openly promote an exclusive and private club they started called “Executive Branch” with an annual membership fee of $500,000 per year that offers access to Washington officials. 
 

And then there’s all the sketchy merch ugly low quality sneakers,  ugly low quality watches, worthless NFTs, memes coins etc that are made by mysterious anonymous hard-to trace entities actively attempting to conceal their identity and are being bought by mysterious buyers for absurdly exorbitant prices beyond   
 

This the most on-the-take president the world has ever seen from what was an advanced democracy 

So...you're opposed to the Trump business...doing business.

Interesting rationale. Not terribly grounded but...interesting.

[BeaverFever]

2 minutes ago, User said:

Women in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia are not required by law nor threatened and beaten up, arrested, or raped by the secret police if they don't. 

 

Yes they are.  To be clear BOTH iran and Saudi Arabia at at the VERY BOTTOM of world rankings for their mistreatment of women. Some examples of areas where Saudi is worse 
 

Saudi women  are not allowed to leave the house without being escorted by a male relative  unlike Iran

Saudi women are required to wear the full black niqab in public covered head to toe in black in the stifling heat  unlike Iran  

Saudi women were not allowed to drive cars until 2018 (8 years ago) unlike Iran which actually has had a female racecar driver for many years 

Saudi women are prohibited from working in many professions, Iran still has female lawyers doctors and engineers 

If Saudi women violate any of the they are considered to have invited whatever misfortune befalls them by other men or the authorities. 

A Saudi man can have his wife jailed or committed to an asylum for disobedience. 
 

Now Saudi’s current prince did start making reforms beginning in 2017 but they still have a long long long way to go

[BeaverFever]

12 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

So...you're opposed to the Trump business...doing business.

Interesting rationale. Not terribly grounded but...interesting.

Yeah a sitting president isn’t supposed to be doing any private business, let alone secretive dark money transactions in notoriously sleazy industries like crypto that is awash in dirty money laundering, let alone secretive dealings with anonymous entities actively trying to conceal their identities and the source of their moneu. The amount of money being shoveled over to him is out of all proportion to any actual good or service he could possibly be legitimately providing 

Edited March 17 by BeaverFever

[User]

16 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Yes they are.  To be clear BOTH iran and Saudi Arabia at at the VERY BOTTOM of world rankings for their mistreatment of women. Some examples of areas where Saudi is worse 
 

Saudi women  are not allowed to leave the house without being escorted by a male relative  unlike Iran

Saudi women are required to wear the full black niqab in public covered head to toe in black in the stifling heat  unlike Iran  

Saudi women were not allowed to drive cars until 2018 (8 years ago) unlike Iran which actually has had a female racecar driver for many years 

Saudi women are prohibited from working in many professions, Iran still has female lawyers doctors and engineers 

If Saudi women violate any of the they are considered to have invited whatever misfortune befalls them by other men or the authorities. 

A Saudi man can have his wife jailed or committed to an asylum for disobedience. 
 

Now Saudi’s current prince did start making reforms beginning in 2017 but they still have a long long long way to go

You are not worth the waste of time to go one by one on these because you just spew shit out of your mouth and don't care. 

So, here you go:

 

1. “Saudi women are not allowed to leave the house without being escorted by a male relative unlike Iran.”

Verdict: Mostly incorrect today.

• Saudi Arabia historically had a male guardianship system where a male guardian (father, husband, etc.) had authority over certain decisions.

• However, women were never generally required to be physically escorted outside the house. That claim is a common misconception.

• Major reforms in 2019 allowed Saudi women to:

  • obtain passports

  • travel abroad without guardian permission

  • register births, marriages, and divorces

  • live independently in many cases

Reality comparison

Topic	Saudi Arabia	Iran
Leaving the house	Allowed without escort	Allowed without escort
Guardian approval for some life decisions	Historically yes, partially reformed	Husband can restrict travel

So: The escort rule is largely false, but Saudi Arabia did have strong guardianship restrictions historically.

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2. “Saudi women are required to wear the full black niqab head-to-toe unlike Iran.”

Verdict: Partially wrong / oversimplified.

• In Saudi Arabia, women traditionally wore abaya (black cloak) in public.

• Niqab (face covering) was not universally required by law.

• Enforcement varied regionally and culturally.

Since reforms under Mohammed bin Salman, enforcement has relaxed significantly.

Meanwhile in Iran:

• Women must wear hijab (head covering).

• Hair must be covered.

• Enforcement exists through morality policing.

Reality

Clothing rule	Saudi Arabia	Iran
Hair covering required	Historically yes in practice	Yes by law
Face covering required	No nationwide law	No
Abaya mandatory	Traditionally enforced	Not required

So the claim exaggerates the Saudi rule and understates the Iranian one.

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3. “Saudi women couldn’t drive until 2018 unlike Iran.”

Verdict: Correct.

This part is accurate.

• Saudi Arabia banned women from driving until June 2018.

• Iran has never banned women from driving.

• Iran even has female racecar drivers.

This is one of the clearest differences between the two countries historically.

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4. “Saudi women are prohibited from working in many professions, Iran still has female lawyers doctors and engineers.”

Verdict: Outdated and misleading.

Historically:

• Saudi Arabia had stricter employment barriers.

But today:

• Saudi women work as:

  • doctors

  • lawyers

  • engineers

  • pilots

  • business executives

  • government officials

Women’s labor participation in Saudi Arabia has tripled since 2016.

Iran:

• Women are highly educated.

• Many professionals exist.

• But there are still legal and social restrictions, including:

  • gender segregation

  • limits in certain judicial roles

  • restrictions in some fields.

So the claim relies on an older Saudi reality from the 2000s–early 2010s.

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5. “If Saudi women violate rules they are considered to have invited misfortune.”

Verdict: Cultural claim, not a formal law.

There is no legal statute saying women invite harm.

However:

• Conservative societies sometimes place social blame on women for perceived moral violations.

• That dynamic exists in many societies, including Iran.

So this is more of a social criticism than a factual legal rule.

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6. “A Saudi man can have his wife jailed or committed to an asylum for disobedience.”

Verdict: Mostly incorrect.

Historically under guardianship laws:

• A male guardian could file “disobedience” complaints or pressure authorities.

• Women could face legal issues if accused of “absconding” (leaving guardian control).

But:

• A husband cannot simply order jail or asylum.

• Courts or authorities must be involved.

Recent reforms have weakened many of these mechanisms.

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7. “Saudi reforms started in 2017 but still have a long way to go.”

Verdict: Reasonable statement.

Saudi reforms under Mohammed bin Salman include:

• women driving (2018)

• travel without guardian permission (2019)

• increased workforce participation

• easing dress enforcement

But critics still point to:

• guardianship remnants

• political repression

• uneven enforcement.

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Big Picture

Both Saudi Arabia and Iran restrict women in different ways:

Category	Saudi Arabia	Iran
Driving	Legal since 2018	Always legal
Dress code	Traditionally strict, now relaxed	Mandatory hijab law
Guardianship	Historically strong, partly reformed	Husband authority in some areas
Workforce	Rapidly expanding	Highly educated female workforce
Political freedoms	Limited	Limited

So the post you quoted mixes real historical facts, outdated information, and internet exaggerations.

[Nationalist]

9 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Yeah a sitting president isn’t supposed to be doing any private business, let alone secretive dark money transactions in notoriously sleazy industries like crypto that is awash in dirty money laundering, let alone secretive dealings with anonymous entities actively trying to conceal their identities and the source of their moneu. The amount of money being shoveled over to him is out of all proportion to any actual good or service he could possibly be legitimately providing 

Uhmmm...

"However, the ethicists said, unless the Trump brothers are explicitly promising access to or favorable treatment from the president in their sales pitches, they are breaking no laws."

https://www.reuters.com/investigations/inside-trump-familys-global-crypto-cash-machine-2025-10-28/

Beave, I distinctly remember you and all the Libbies, laughing at the assertion that Brandon was getting rich from his son's business dealings. Yet now you're all freaked out by this crypto venture of Eric and Don Jr.

How many times are you Libbies gonna need to be reminded that its been your own heros who set the table...established the rules...and now have to sit there and accept Trump perfecting YOUR approved methods?

[CrakHoBarbie]

18 hours ago, Reg Volk said:

lol - "stupid pointless war" - if you are a leftist boob sitting in your armchair at home and not an Iranian woman being beaten for not wearing her hijab properly.  The Left is just so disgusting.

We arent the World police, halfwit.

 

"In the final analysis, it is their war. They are the ones who have to win it or lose it."

--------President John F. Kennedy

[herbie]

No, in one single year you've proven to be unreliable, untrustworthy, ungrateful bastards.
Tariff, threaten and badmouth all your allies and then ask them to back you up in your misadventures. Complain and insult them more cuz yer dumb enough to think that will change their minds.
Started a war without considering th4e consequences or an exit plan...

SO now he's threatening to "take" Cuba... 

If there ever was a reason to pull another Jan 6 and storm the White House it would be about now.

[User]

42 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

We arent the World police, halfwit.

 

"In the final analysis, it is their war. They are the ones who have to win it or lose it."

--------President John F. Kennedy

So, you oppose our interventions in Ukraine too?

 

21 minutes ago, herbie said:

No, in one single year you've proven to be unreliable, untrustworthy, ungrateful bastards.

That sounds just like Canada with its NATO funding obligations. Only, not just one year... year after year. 

 

[herbie]

14 minutes ago, User said:

So, you oppose our interventions in Ukraine too?

Duhhh! You haven't intervened in Ukraine you American Idjut, you just sent some arms. You've done LESS than most other countries, mocked and insulted their leader, conspired with their enemy... like how stupid and ill informed are you anyway?

Talk about Dunning Kruger, from the President down to his few remaining supoorters... 

Edited March 17 by herbie

[User]

1 minute ago, herbie said:

Duhhh! You haven't intervened in Ukraine you American Idjut, you just sent some arms. You've done LESS than most other countries, mocked and insulted their leader, conspired with their enemy... like how stupid and ill informed are you anyway?

Talk about Dunning Kruger, from the President down to his few remaining supoorters... 

"Just sent some arms." 

That IS interving. That does have a cost. 

Also, we have done far more than your country has and continue to do so. We are the single largest provider of aid, and much of the money everyone else is spending is still our industrial base, creating the munitions for Ukraine. It sure isn't Canada doing it. 

There was no "conspiring" with the enemy. 

You guys sit around crying about America but without us, there would be no real resistance to Russia. 

 

[Reg Volk]

apparently the new Supreme Leader of Iran is gay.  If true, he better not go on top of any tall buildings in Tehran....

https://nypost.com/2026/03/16/us-news/trump-briefed-that-irans-new-supreme-leader-mojtaba-khamenei-is-probably-gay/

President Trump found it hysterical - and it is!  How is this guy still alive?

[Reg Volk]

 

[Reg Volk]

The Left just plain sucks.

[bush_cheney2004]

Here's a blast from the past...the late Senator John McCain offers his opinion on what to do about Iran in 2007:

 

 

[paxamericana]

26 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Here's a blast from the past...the late Senator John McCain offers his opinion on what to do about Iran in 2007:

 

 

I’m more ambitious, supporting an Israeli ground invasion to conquer Iran. They need the Sudetenland.

[Goddess]

After years of the Liberals in Canada stating demand for oil is going to crater any second now, the Iran War has the world scrambling for..........oil.

[Gaétan]

The Chinese president should take advantage of the American president’s visit to China to place him under arrest, hospitalize him, try to treat him, and hand him over to the IInternational Criminal Court of Justice.