Cons to Debate Things Normal Canadians like

[TreeBeard]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/conservative-policies-debated-at-convention-9.7040187
 

Conservative Party members are pressing their leader to adopt a number of controversial policy positions including private health care, scrapping Diversity Equity and Inclusion (DEI) policies and abandoning the party's previous position to stay out of the abortion debate.

 

Normal Canadians like MAID, abortion rights, equality of opportunity and dislike private healthcare.

Is this going to be the most out of touch Conservative Party ever?

 

Edited January 10 by TreeBeard

[Nefarious Banana]

CBC source . . . tweaked?

[TreeBeard]

13 hours ago, Nefarious Banana said:

CBC source . . . tweaked?

So they won’t be discussing those things at the convention?

[ironstone]

16 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

Normal Canadians like MAID, abortion rights, equality of opportunity and dislike private healthcare.

There already is some private health care in Canada. We should not shy away from discussing it.

There are problems with MAID  to be sure, especially when people that are crying out for help instead get referred to MAID.

Leftists promote abortion, then complain that Canadians aren't having enough children, so that's why we need a massive influx from the third world?

Conservatives are all for equal opportunity but that's not what DEI is about.

Edited January 10 by ironstone

[Moonlight Graham]

DEI is discriminatory, get rid of it.

 

[Army Guy]

16 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/conservative-policies-debated-at-convention-9.7040187
 

Conservative Party members are pressing their leader to adopt a number of controversial policy positions including private health care, scrapping Diversity Equity and Inclusion (DEI) policies and abandoning the party's previous position to stay out of the abortion debate.

 

Normal Canadians like MAID, abortion rights, equality of opportunity and dislike private healthcare.

Is this going to be the most out of touch Conservative Party ever?

 

Whats wrong with private health care, it would take some pressure of our current health care which is in crises...DEI speaks for it self, it is a useless program that only waters down standards and is riddled with out right racism...

Abortion is a dead topic, and should be left alone...Canadians use it as a form of birth control as they are to lazy to use proven contraception...Canadians are not responsible enough to take safe measures when having sex...

So why not talk about these topics....what topics are outlawed in the liberal conventions...what is it your afraid of talking about...

 

[TreeBeard]

52 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

DEI is discriminatory, get rid of it.

 

When and where is it used?  

51 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

what topics are outlawed in the liberal conventions...what is it your afraid of talking about...

 

Talk about it all you want.  Passing party platforms denouncing abortion is a great way to get elected!  

[TreeBeard]

1 hour ago, ironstone said:

Leftists promote abortion, then complain that Canadians aren't having enough children,

Don’t you think people should want the kids?  Forcing women to give birth isn’t a great look.  It’s a great way for the Cons never to be elected. 
 

You screech about lefties bringing up the bogey-man of abortion;  that it’s just fear mongering.  Then your party does everything it can to get a motion passed to ban abortion.  Gee, I wonder why abortion rights are a topic.  

[I am Groot]

17 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

Normal Canadians like MAID,

Normal Canadians very sadly accept that MAID might sometimes be the only solution. Normal Canadians do not 'like' it, and normal Canadians certainly don't think that mostly healthy twenty-eight-year-olds with depression should be put to death.

17 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

abortion rights,

There are moderate positions that allow for abortion rights while still controlling abortion. You do know that every single country in Western Europe has laws governing the provision of abortion, right? That includes the most egalitarian ones like the Nordic countries.

17 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

equality of opportunity

Open, avowed racist hiring and racist sentencing is not 'equality of opportunity', nor is that their goal. Equality of results is their goal.

 

17 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

and dislike private healthcare.

They dislike it a lot less than having to wait two or three years to see a specialist. Again, every country in Western Europe has private healthcare in addition to robust public healthcare programs. And virtually all of them work better than ours. 

[TreeBeard]

3 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

There are moderate positions that allow for abortion rights while still controlling abortion. You do know that every single country in Western Europe has laws governing the provision of abortion, right? That includes the most egalitarian ones like the Nordic countries.

Making it a medical issue has worked great for Canada.  We have less abortions per capita than USA, who restricts abortions more and more.   Why is that?  Shouldn’t we have more?  

 

4 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

Open, avowed racist hiring and racist sentencing is not 'equality of opportunity', nor is that their goal. Equality of results is their goal.

Naw.  This is conservative rhetoric with no basis in fact. 

[herbie]

Sure have a great debate among themselves on ALL the issues that ensure they'll never be elected.
Forget about forming actual alternative pp;icy about what actual issues that need to be dealt with.
Stick with the guts and jerking knees

Edited January 10 by herbie

[Moonlight Graham]

6 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

When and where is it used?  

Government and many other organizations.

[TreeBeard]

4 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Government and many other organizations.

So vague as to be useless.  

[CdnFox]

8 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

So they won’t be discussing those things at the convention?

But you didn't suggest they were just discussing it, you suggested they hated those things.  Normal people LIKE them so consrivatives must hate them to be out of touch. Which shows how stupid you are

The reality is the vast majority of Canadians do support some restrictions on abortion. The vast majority of Canadians do believe that there can be A place for private participation in healthcare the majority of Canadians have some concerns over how maid is being run.

Conservatives like all that stuff too, they just like to do it right.

And if conservatives are so hard to touch why is carney using all of their ideas to try and run his government?

[Moonlight Graham]

41 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

So vague as to be useless.  

I mean you can deny reality all you want.  The feds have a program from it called " employment equity", look it up

[ironstone]

8 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

Don’t you think people should want the kids?  Forcing women to give birth isn’t a great look.  It’s a great way for the Cons never to be elected. 

The impression I get from young people is that they're afraid to have kids because it's expensive. 

Nobody on the conservative side wants to 'force' women to have children.

You would be pretty happy if the Conservatives never get elected, but the flip side is that Canada is going to be unrecognizable in the future. Various ethnic enclaves all over the place. A whole lot of everything, but not much of anything. 

[herbie]

[Gaétan]

Conservatives are cheaters; they wouldn’t have any elected officials if they didn’t have the support of the private media owned by the rich who deceived and manipulated the people.

[ironstone]

12 minutes ago, Gaétan said:

Conservatives are cheaters; they wouldn’t have any elected officials if they didn’t have the support of the private media owned by the rich who deceived and manipulated the people.

CBC, Global, CTV, most daily newspapers go hard on the Conservatives while the Liberals get much softer treatment.

[TreeBeard]

1 hour ago, ironstone said:

The impression I get from young people is that they're afraid to have kids because it's expensive. 

Agreed.  It’s an issue.   But the birth rate has been dropping for a very long time.  To pin it only on that would be silly. 

 

1 hour ago, ironstone said:

Nobody on the conservative side wants to 'force' women to have children.

Anyone who would outlaw abortions wants to force women to have the child.

1 hour ago, ironstone said:

You would be pretty happy if the Conservatives never get elected,

The way they are now, absolutely.  I never had a problem with Mulroney until he was found to be corrupt.  He was on the forefront of environmental issues at the time.  
 

1 hour ago, ironstone said:

but the flip side is that Canada is going to be unrecognizable in the future. Various ethnic enclaves all over the place.

I have no issues with the ethnics.  I am born of immigrants.  The land in 1500 that became Canada isn’t the Canada of 1867 and that isn’t the Canada of 1957.  If you want Canada to be ethnically the same as ever, your head is so far up your bum that it may not be recoverable.   You’re being left behind, and I get that it’s sad for you, but it has always been thus. 

Edited January 11 by TreeBeard

[Moonlight Graham]

3 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

I have no issues with the ethnics.  I am born of immigrants.  The land in 1500 that became Canada isn’t the Canada of 1867 and that isn’t the Canada of 1957.  If you want Canada to be ethnically the same as ever, your head is so far up your bum that it may not be recoverable.   You’re being left behind, and I get that it’s sad for you, but it has always been thus. 

You're an immigrant.

[ironstone]

11 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

Anyone who would outlaw abortions wants to force women to have the child.

Why do they not think of using birth control? And you are ignoring the fact that abortion was legal under the last Conservative government. There is a segment within the Conservative party that does not want abortion, but they won't get their way. No doubt there are Muslim MP's that do not personally support abortion but go along with it for the time being for the sake of political expediency.

 

11 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

I have no issues with the ethnics.  I am born of immigrants.  The land in 1500 that became Canada isn’t the Canada of 1867 and that isn’t the Canada of 1957.  If you want Canada to be ethnically the same as ever, your head is so far up your bum that it may not be recoverable.   You’re being left behind, and I get that it’s sad for you, but it has always been thus. 

In the video below, try scrolling from 6:35 to 8:50 and listen to what is being said by Muslim leaders in the West. (They are NOT talking about assimilation!) As their numbers and political power continue to grow in the West, how long do you think abortions rights will be safe?

 

[TreeBeard]

9 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

You're an immigrant.

I’m not sure you know the definition of “immigrant”. 😂 

Edited January 11 by TreeBeard

[CdnFox]

13 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

Anyone who would outlaw abortions wants to force women to have the child.

 

You can say the same thing about not allowing women to kill their child when they're 3 years old. You're FORCING them to have the child 

Here's the deal, killing humans is murder and we don't allow it accepting extreme cases of self-defense

At some point an egg goes from being an egg to being a person. The vast majority of people feel that happens before birth. There's nothing magic about moving 6 in a birth canal that suddenly grants humanity.

That's why the vast majority of people support restrictions on abortion. It is only a handful of left-wing nut bars who think there should be no laws at all

. Most people seem pretty content with the current practice of first trimester abortions only and after that only based on medical need to protect the life of the mother

You're basically suggesting that homicide should be allowed and legal for children up to a certain point. That is messed up beyond belief and you should be deeply ashamed of yourself

[eyeball]

On 1/10/2026 at 11:02 AM, ironstone said:

Leftists promote abortion, then complain that Canadians aren't having enough children,

When did lefties complain about that, can you please point to the original complaint? I didn't get the memo and I'm still cheering for population control.

Dang I hate it when that happens. I guess the power was out or something when CBC issued the new marching orders.