CdnFox Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: Can you be any more stupid? I'm not sure you should be giving him challenges like that..... If it gets much Dumber he's just going to forget to breathe or something and then you'll feel badly 2 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Venandi Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 (edited) 2 hours ago, robosmith said: Nope. They are trained to re-evaluate the situation AFTER every shot. Don't snow the Snow Queen... to quote a "senior member" "YOU can't stop being stupid." Edited January 16 by Venandi 1 Quote
eyeball Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 On 1/14/2026 at 11:36 AM, User said: ICE is enforcing the law against ILLEGAL immigrants. So tell us, do you support that or not? Speaking for myself I'd say no. The way it's being enforced in light of how little the US did to prevent immigrants in the first place not to mention how much the US also encouraged them is inhuman never mind hypocritical. I know you people like to dissect, parse and blame everything along partisan lines but when you're outside your national bubble its plain to see this is just another American problem of America's making. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
robosmith Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: This is where we're at now? This has gone from tragic to sickening. Robo...your are a traitor to the USA and humanity. @Trump - Sir...these Libbies are traitors and criminals. Call in the military and tell them to show up armed to the teeth. Yes, we've arrived at place where you believe your Canuck opinions matter and you're some kind of expert on the US First Amendment, when you don't know SQUAT. LMAO Quote
Nationalist Posted January 16 Author Report Posted January 16 8 minutes ago, CdnFox said: I'm not sure you should be giving him challenges like that..... If it gets much Dumber he's just going to forget to breathe or something and then you'll feel badly I know that quite often I only indulge robo-bot with curt insults...but this is different. One of my sons is planning to be a cop. I watch this sort of crap happen and shudder. This is what society has become? That leaders and the press would instruct the public to fight with federal agents...is the height of sickening. Last night an officer went to arrest an illegal. No mob...no invasion of a community...a lone officer chasing down a criminal and catching him. One might thing that's not some mob invasion. 2 other criminals start beating the lone cop with sticks and brooms. The initial criminal joins in the beating. The cop shoots on in self defense. The initial criminal is eventually arrested AS WELL AS THE OTHER 2, because "as it turns out", the additional 2 are also illegals and criminals. YET...ICE is the problem. Tampon Timmy and that insufferable pansy mayor of Minneapolis, both need to be arrested and caged. Much of the press as well. They continue to lie about every single event and stoke the nerve of really stupid people. Trump will have to insight the insurrection act and declare war on Minneapolis. And we haven't even touched on the rampant Somali fraud going on there. These Libbies are traitors. There is no other way to describe them. Just fckin' disgusting human refuse. 2 minutes ago, robosmith said: Yes, we've arrived at place where you believe your Canuck opinions matter and you're some kind of expert on the US First Amendment, when you don't know SQUAT. LMAO Go suck a zucchini...traitor. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
robosmith Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 1 hour ago, ironstone said: I know, I know...if you were in his place at that time...you would have rolled to the side and shot out the tires...all four of them...with only two shots🙄 You "know" SQUAT, too. I didn't make up the evaluate after each shot standard, but I understand why it makes sense unlike you. Quote Yes, police officers must evaluate the necessity of every shot, legally justified only when facing an imminent threat of death or serious injury, under the "objective reasonableness" standard from Graham v. Connor, requiring assessment of the "totality of circumstances" but allowing for split-second judgments, with some jurisdictions like California moving towards a stricter "necessary" standard (only when no other reasonable option exists). While officers must act under pressure, accountability for every shot fired is expected, focusing on justification rather than just accuracy. It's a standard based on a court decision. Duh Quote
robosmith Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 5 minutes ago, Nationalist said: I know that quite often I only indulge robo-bot with curt insults...but this is different. One of my sons is planning to be a cop. I watch this sort of crap happen and shudder. This is what society has become? That leaders and the press would instruct the public to fight with federal agents...is the height of sickening. Last night an officer went to arrest an illegal. No mob...no invasion of a community...a lone officer chasing down a criminal and catching him. One might thing that's not some mob invasion. 2 other criminals start beating the lone cop with sticks and brooms. The initial criminal joins in the beating. The cop shoots on in self defense. The initial criminal is eventually arrested AS WELL AS THE OTHER 2, because "as it turns out", the additional 2 are also illegals and criminals. YET...ICE is the problem. Tampon Timmy and that insufferable pansy mayor of Minneapolis, both need to be arrested and caged. Much of the press as well. They continue to lie about every single event and stoke the nerve of really stupid people. Trump will have to insight the insurrection act and declare war on Minneapolis. And we haven't even touched on the rampant Somali fraud going on there. These Libbies are traitors. There is no other way to describe them. Just fckin' disgusting human refuse. Go suck a zucchini...traitor. WTH is your OBSESSION with vegetables? I'm pretty sure you don't get enough, so maybe it's time you balanced your diet. LMAO Quote
User Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: These people have never been in a high stress situation. Nor have a clue how firearms work. Quote
Nationalist Posted January 16 Author Report Posted January 16 30 minutes ago, robosmith said: WTH is your OBSESSION with vegetables? I'm pretty sure you don't get enough, so maybe it's time you balanced your diet. LMAO Huh...figures... Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
West Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 All that money may be going to fund terrorism.. Quote
Hodad Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 (edited) 42 minutes ago, robosmith said: WTH is your OBSESSION with vegetables? I'm pretty sure you don't get enough, so maybe it's time you balanced your diet. LMAO Seems like the old alchie with a shriveled gherkin has serious zucchini envy. Edited January 16 by Hodad 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 45 minutes ago, Nationalist said: I know that quite often I only indulge robo-bot with curt insults...but this is different. One of my sons is planning to be a cop. I watch this sort of crap happen and shudder. This is what society has become? That leaders and the press would instruct the public to fight with federal agents...is the height of sickening. Last night an officer went to arrest an illegal. No mob...no invasion of a community...a lone officer chasing down a criminal and catching him. One might thing that's not some mob invasion. 2 other criminals start beating the lone cop with sticks and brooms. The initial criminal joins in the beating. The cop shoots on in self defense. The initial criminal is eventually arrested AS WELL AS THE OTHER 2, because "as it turns out", the additional 2 are also illegals and criminals. YET...ICE is the problem. Tampon Timmy and that insufferable pansy mayor of Minneapolis, both need to be arrested and caged. Much of the press as well. They continue to lie about every single event and stoke the nerve of really stupid people. Trump will have to insight the insurrection act and declare war on Minneapolis. And we haven't even touched on the rampant Somali fraud going on there. These Libbies are traitors. There is no other way to describe them. Just fckin' disgusting human refuse. Go suck a zucchini...traitor. Fair points. Joviality aside it's a serious issue And the politicians as you say have ratcheted the temperature up to 3,000. Even today tim waltz came out with a statement begging trump to lower the temperature, as if he was the one that was raising it and then finished off by saying to protesters don't rise to the bait and don't give them what they want which is of course politically charged language that raises the temperature I felt the same about Trudeau during covid and said so, but in moments of Crisis it is the job of the politicians to hold people together, to put oil on the water and to keep everyone calm and focused. Instead of keep calm and carry on we're seeing "rise up and break the law because the other side isn't human" as the message sent. 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CdnFox Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 33 minutes ago, User said: Nor have a clue how firearms work. Well this is the thing that really gets to me. Any student of firearmstheir effectiveness in application will know that it is almost impossible to stop anyone quickly with a single shot from a pistol unless it's a very very large pistol. Police are trained to fire two to three times immediately in order to make sure they hit and to do enough damage to actually cause someone to stop their activity. Three rounds and quick succession is exactly what you would expect a police officer to do. They don't shoot and then stop and think maybe I should shoot again. They shoot two to three times and then they assess. Basically for a cop 3 shots IS one shot This guy fired at a threat three times in rapid succession and from what we know only ONE of the bullets was fatal, and it still took seconds for the bad guy to be incapacitated. This isn't the movies, a single round of 9mm or 40 sw isn't going to stop an attacker jacked up on adrenaline. 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Venandi Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 (edited) 1 hour ago, eyeball said: The way it's being enforced in light of how little the US did to prevent immigrants in the first place not to mention how much the US also encouraged them is inhuman... Wait a second now, the US has laws about such things... it was Biden democrats that did this and they did it by holding those laws in abeyance to an extent and for a duration that will be studied by future generations. After Socratic interrogation of AI bot it eventually admitted the following (for whatever it may be worth): In isolation, the position advocating for strict adherence to statutory mandates under the INA is typically the most legally defensible, as it relies on explicit legislative language and established legal precedents. This perspective argues for an unwavering application of the law as written, aligning closely with traditional interpretations of legal accountability in immigration enforcement. Statutory mandates can be set aside or altered through Executive Orders and administrative actions, which can redefine enforcement priorities and policies without changing the underlying law. This approach has been particularly evident under the Biden administration, raising questions about the legality and adherence to statutory obligations. I would also note that the backlash you see now is the fulfilment of an election promise to launch the largest deportation program of undocumented immigrants in US history. IMO, the only thing that qualifies as hypocritical here is pretending that the pain this has caused was anything other than deliberate, avoidable, and perpetrated by democrats for political gain. Since you're fond of using "you people" in your rhetoric here please allow the same courtesy.... as far as I'm concerned: - "You people" did this; - I resent the pain that "you people" caused those who simply hoped for a better life; and - I won't forget that "you people" did it on purpose. Edited January 16 by Venandi Quote
eyeball Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 17 minutes ago, Venandi said: it was Biden democrats that did this LMAO! It was probably all Justin Trudeau's fault. 23 minutes ago, Venandi said: Since you're fond of using "you people" in your rhetoric here please allow the same courtesy..."You people" did this; - I resent the pain that "you people" caused those who simply hoped for a better life; and - I won't forget that "you people" did it on purpose. So why don't you people something about us? Why take it out on immigrants? This is between us. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 2 hours ago, eyeball said: LMAO! It was probably all Justin Trudeau's fault. If you really believed that you would claim it was harper's Quote So why don't you people something about us? Why take it out on immigrants? This is between us. Got to start somewhere. You're the one that keeps demanding that something be done, well something's being done. And a lot of them are on your side anyway so two birds one stone But don't worry, I doubt it'll stop there Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 45 minutes ago, CdnFox said: But don't worry, I doubt it'll stop there No, we probably haven't seen anything yet. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
robosmith Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 (edited) 16 hours ago, West said: All that money may be going to fund terrorism.. All that money may be just LIES and part of the RepubliCONS' campaign tactics. We all KNOW that adhering to Truth is never a factor considered with Trump's campaigns. Edited January 16 by robosmith Quote
robosmith Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 3 hours ago, Venandi said: Wait a second now, the US has laws about such things... it was Biden democrats that did this and they did it by holding those laws in abeyance to an extent and for a duration that will be studied by future generations. After Socratic interrogation of AI bot it eventually admitted the following (for whatever it may be worth): In isolation, the position advocating for strict adherence to statutory mandates under the INA is typically the most legally defensible, as it relies on explicit legislative language and established legal precedents. This perspective argues for an unwavering application of the law as written, aligning closely with traditional interpretations of legal accountability in immigration enforcement. Statutory mandates can be set aside or altered through Executive Orders and administrative actions, which can redefine enforcement priorities and policies without changing the underlying law. This approach has been particularly evident under the Biden administration, raising questions about the legality and adherence to statutory obligations. I would also note that the backlash you see now is the fulfilment of an election promise to launch the largest deportation program of undocumented immigrants in US history. IMO, the only thing that qualifies as hypocritical here is pretending that the pain this has caused was anything other than deliberate, avoidable, and perpetrated by democrats for political gain. Since you're fond of using "you people" in your rhetoric here please allow the same courtesy.... as far as I'm concerned: - "You people" did this; - I resent the pain that "you people" caused those who simply hoped for a better life; and - I won't forget that "you people" did it on purpose. Unfortunate you don't understand the ASYLUM has always been a LEGAL OPTION in our LAWS. Biden was holding on to that as a way to motivate immigration REFORM but RepubliCONS refused. Quote
cougar Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 On 1/8/2026 at 3:11 PM, paxamericana said: Car made contact with the police officer before he fired. Gota pay attention to the detail before jumping to conclusions. https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/08/us/video/minnesota-mn-ice-shooting-timeline-vrtc-digvid or actually the police officer made contact with the car before killing the driver We watched it carefully and the Minneapolis mayor watched it too. Clear murder for no reason at all. They could have arrested her but instead one of them m-ons decided in a split second to kill her! What was the purpose of shooting? You do not stop a car with a shot; you move out of the way. F-ing m-ons , same m-ons as those who elected the orange faced thing and who can be found on this forum. 1 1 Quote
User Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 50 minutes ago, cougar said: or actually the police officer made contact with the car before killing the driver We watched it carefully and the Minneapolis mayor watched it too. Clear murder for no reason at all. They could have arrested her but instead one of them m-ons decided in a split second to kill her! What was the purpose of shooting? You do not stop a car with a shot; you move out of the way. F-ing m-ons , same m-ons as those who elected the orange faced thing and who can be found on this forum. This happened days ago and we have video from multiple cameras, different angles, the cell phone of the officer, medical reports… and you are still pushing absolute ignorant falsehoods. There is no excuse for this. 1 Quote
West Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 4 hours ago, robosmith said: Unfortunate you don't understand the ASYLUM has always been a LEGAL OPTION in our LAWS. Biden was holding on to that as a way to motivate immigration REFORM but RepubliCONS refused. Asylum doesnt mean you get to rape people in another country and then flee to the US to escape justice. Duh Quote
paxamericana Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 6 hours ago, cougar said: F-ing m-ons , same m-ons as those who elected the orange faced thing and who can be found on this forum. More than half the US voted to shoot her in the face by your logic. Quote
CdnFox Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 11 hours ago, eyeball said: No, we probably haven't seen anything yet. Well, at the very least I don't think we've seen an end to it yet. This is what you wanted right? You're always saying the right should actually take action and do things. So this is what you've been advocating for for decades now Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
ironstone Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 12 hours ago, cougar said: They could have arrested her but instead one of them m-ons decided in a split second to kill her! She was given a lawful order to get out of the car and she refused to comply. 1 Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
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