Another Conservative crosses the floor, bringing Liberals 1 MP shy of majority

[Goddess]

5 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

I'm assuming since you've declined to back this claim up now at least 3-4 times upon request that we can safely conclude that (once again) you got your information from a facebook post or a tweet?  

Someone else had already posted it, so I didn't bother, assuming you had seen it, since he tagged you directly.

Before I post it for you - again - let me ask you a question.

Let's say I post proof that Ma DID meet with Chinese officials 3 days before floor crossing.

Would that make any difference to you?  Or you'd just blow it off as no big deal?

[TreeBeard]

19 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Let's say I post proof that Ma DID meet with Chinese officials 3 days before floor crossing.

Your excuses are lame.  Even you know your conspiracy theory sites are unhinged about this.  Put up or shut up. 

[Goddess]

Just now, TreeBeard said:

Your excuses are lame.  Even you know your conspiracy theory sites are unhinged about this.  Put up or shut up. 

You're lame.

You don't care if your Liberal party is under CCP control.  Makes no difference to you.

[Moonbox]

31 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Someone else had already posted it, so I didn't bother, assuming you had seen it, since he tagged you directly.

My bad, I had him on ignore...

Yup, as suspected, was a freaking Facebook post.  🤣

31 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Let's say I post proof that Ma DID meet with Chinese officials 3 days before floor crossing.

Would that make any difference to you?  Or you'd just blow it off as no big deal?

Like everything, it would depend on context.   "Chinese officials" can mean a lot of things, as can "meeting with".  I'd be less concerned, for example, with Ma meeting openly with Chinese Tourism representatives than I would be with credible evidence of Ma meeting under a bridge with suspected members of Chinese intelligence and receiving an envelope.

Regardless, posting garbage you scraped off of Facebook from some random Anon makes you look as bad or worse than having no source at all.  The former makes you look gullible and foolish, while the latter just makes you full of it.  

Edited December 16, 2025 by Moonbox

[Goddess]

Tree & Moon,

Had you checked into things on your own right away, you would have seen Ma's own facebook post about his meeting with the Chinese 3 days before.  Ma has since deleted his social media.  Of course, people took screenshots of the post, but you will just say they're fake.

The MSM won't investigate his CCP connections and you both reject all independent media, no matter how many receipts they bring.  You say they're all fake.

Everything's fake unless it comes from the CBC, who get paid by the Liberals.

And it doesn't matter anyways because it really doesn't bother either of you if your party is under CCP influence.

I get really tired of this "Everything is fake except the CBC" game.

 

[Goddess]

3 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

makes you look as bad or worse than having no source at all.  The former makes you look gullible and foolish, while the latter just makes you full of it.  

I feel that same way about you.  You think CBC is legit and anything not reported by them is fake.  Talk about gullible and foolish. 🤪

I don't really care what you think of me.  I give you credit for having about 2 more brain cells than the 12-year-old on here.

[eyeball]

57 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

I'm assuming since you've declined to back this claim up now at least 3-4 times upon request that we can safely conclude that (once again) you got your information from a facebook post or a tweet?  

Her toaster? Maybe one of these new fangled 'smart' contraptions.

Edited December 16, 2025 by eyeball

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

You must be speaking from experience.

Absolutely! I have plenty of experience watching you do exactly that  

 

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You're like a hamster chasing it's tail.

Hamsters don't chase their tails.   Don't tell me you were lying about having a hamster as well!!!!

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LMAO!

I accept your admission of defeat   

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

Someone else had already posted it, so I didn't bother, assuming you had seen it, since he tagged you directly.

Let's say I post proof that Ma DID meet with Chinese officials 3 days before floor crossing.

Would that make any difference to you?  Or you'd just blow it off as no big deal?

well lets see how he reacts

39 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Yup, as suspected, was a freaking Facebook post.

LOL well you certainly called that one Goddess  

I note he can't refute it.  There you go 

[Goddess]

1 minute ago, CdnFox said:

I note he can't refute it.  There you go 

The post was directly from Ma's own facebook, I saw it myself just before he deleted all his social media.  I didn't save it, but a lot of other people did and the Conservatives confirmed the meeting.

 

[Moonbox]

11 minutes ago, Goddess said:

I feel that same way about you.  You think CBC is legit and anything not reported by them is fake.  Talk about gullible and foolish. 🤪

Okay, but your feelings aren't particularly relevant to this topic, nor is the CBC.  Feel free to lash out and project all you want though.  

11 minutes ago, Goddess said:

I don't really care what you think of me.  I give you credit for having about 2 more brain cells than the 12-year-old on here.

I unfortunately can't give you the same credit.  Most 12-year-olds don't automatically believe something just because some anonymous stranger posted it (without evidence) on the internet.  That you failed this basic test of skepticism is absurd in itself, but even worse is your expectation that people with non-impaired judgement would find "because some guy said so on facebook" to be compelling evidence.  It shows an appalling lack of reasoning skills.  

[CdnFox]

9 minutes ago, Goddess said:

The post was directly from Ma's own facebook, I saw it myself just before he deleted all his social media.  I didn't save it, but a lot of other people did and the Conservatives confirmed the meeting.

 

I know. The problem is you were right before when you said that if it wasn't on CBC he's going to discourage the source.

He's acknowledged the meeting and tried to defend it, this isn't some weird conspiracy theory but of course because he can't attack the actual facts he goes after the source

8 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

  Most 12-year-olds don't automatically believe something just because some anonymous stranger posted it (without evidence) on the internet. 

Most adults except evidence when it's confirmed by the person who the picture was taken with.

There's absolutely no point in giving you evidence of anything. Even if there's a note from god swearing that it's true you will pretend it isn't

If you can't find something discrediting the picture and the Facebook post or evidence of them suggesting that it wasn't true then you have absolutely no grounds to stand on. Evidence has been provided and if you don't agree with it then you can provide counter evidence, that's how it works

But you know it's true, which is why you go out of your way to avoid addressing the issue and rather try and make it sound like she's a bad person for having dared post his own post from Facebook

[Goddess]

34 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

But you know it's true, which is why you go out of your way to avoid addressing the issue and rather try and make it sound like she's a bad person for having dared post his own post from Facebook

And when they can no longer deny it's false, then they say Oh, well, it doesn't matter anyways, lots of politicians meet with the Chinese, can't prove what was said at the meeting, etc. etc. etc.

Been there, got the t-shirt.

Same game. Every time.

[eyeball]

5 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Hamsters don't chase their tails.

Sure you do. No wonder you never get anywhere.

Edited December 17, 2025 by eyeball

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

Sure you do. No wonder you never get anywhere.

That's not a tail. 

LOL i should have guessed, you can't figure out what a woman is, you can't figure out what a terrorist is, it's no wonder you can't figure out what a tail is  

[eyeball]

13 hours ago, CdnFox said:

That's not a tail.

Sure everyone can plainly see it's a rutabaga.

🤣

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

Sure everyone can plainly see it's a rutabaga.

🤣

Pretty mobile for a rutabaga  

Completely unrelated side note, hallucinations are one of the reported side effects of drinking too much cooking sherry. Just FYI

[Moonbox]

On 12/16/2025 at 4:20 PM, CdnFox said:

If you can't find something discrediting the picture and the Facebook post or evidence of them suggesting that it wasn't true then you have absolutely no grounds to stand on.

Except you're asking me to discredit a phantom photo nobody's provided here, and an anonymous Facebook post offering nothing but the claim itself as evidence of the claim. 

In short, your argument is: 
"Here's nothing, now disprove it."    

You're like the charlatan huckster sneering at skeptics and demanding they prove the shiny rocks you pulled out of the river aren't miracle crystals that cure cancer.  After all, you have testimonials claiming they worked!  🤣

Edited December 17, 2025 by Moonbox

[Moonlight Graham]

On 12/16/2025 at 1:31 PM, eyeball said:

This forum and hundreds of others are filled to their brims with references to conspiracies and sympathy for people that make them.

If the right wing doesn't do a better job of chasing the loons out of the big tent it can continue counting on being out of power way more often than not 

Ok?  Yes sometimes dumb people say dumb things.  There's a lot of loons on the right and left, probably more than any point in my lifetime.  But nobody said anything of the sort in this thread before you posted what you did.  You're just making up strawmen.

[eyeball]

10 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Ok?  Yes sometimes dumb people say dumb things.  There's a lot of loons on the right and left, probably more than any point in my lifetime.  But nobody said anything of the sort in this thread before you posted what you did.  You're just making up strawmen.

You're saying the notions people have about the CBC or MSM generally blowing out LPOC propaganda is just ill-informed misguided bullshit?

LMAO!

 

[Goddess]

Ma, a nobody backbencher, is in China with Carney.

[TreeBeard]

3 hours ago, Goddess said:

Ma, a nobody backbencher, is in China with Carney.

I guess he’s not a nobody anymore?

[Army Guy]

On 1/9/2026 at 2:32 PM, TreeBeard said:

I guess he’s not a nobody anymore?

I wonder if he'll get reelected....or will his voters reject him...I hope he does something meaningful with his time as a liberal....in the mean time looks like the liberals are down another seat, with Freeland quitting to serve another nation....great look for the liberal party. I guess it is back to bribing anyone that wants the cheese.. maybe the green party...she make an excellent liberal...

[TreeBeard]

45 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

I wonder if he'll get reelected....or will his voters reject him..

Right hand man to the PM in trade talks.  Can’t hurt his chances. 
 

45 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

in the mean time looks like the liberals are down another seat, with Freeland quitting to serve another nation....

Seems like a noble thing to do in the middle of a war.   You’re willing to serve the USA against Canada, so why would you be upset that she’s working for Ukraine?

Edited January 10 by TreeBeard

[Army Guy]

1 hour ago, TreeBeard said:

Right hand man to the PM in trade talks.  Can’t hurt his chances. 
 

Seems like a noble thing to do in the middle of a war.   You’re willing to serve the USA against Canada, so why would you be upset that she’s working for Ukraine?

Yes trade talks with the same people the liberals had said we need to diversify our trade away form China....His conservative voters won't forget his crossing....my money is on he'll lose that support, and the riding will stay conservative...

Our very own country is in disarray....sure, she read the writing on the wall and knew her career was over....so she bailed...and why Ukraine offered a job is beyond me, she really is not all that a a bag of bread...

As for me my loyalty has always been with Canada, it's the government that have followed the wrong paths which has lead us to this moment...Your pissed because you can't accept our reality...