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Posted
22 hours ago, blackbird said:

Its unfortunate but Alberta may not have another choice. 

Canada has failed Alberta and all provinces except Ontario and Quebec. They've cowed to those 2 provinces over and over. 

Yes...it's been done to garner votes and power. But is that the purpose of the federal government? Or is it to represent and support all of Canada?

Ottawa had better wake up fast...it may already be too late. If Alberta leaves...Saskatchewan will be next and from there...Canada just falls apart.

Make your choice carney...

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Posted (edited)
On 10/27/2025 at 5:50 PM, taxme said:

Now that is what i am talking about!!! Go, Alberta, go. 😇

Yes. There is a big bad wolf south of the border ready to devour the remaining sheep @Zeitgeist

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On 10/31/2025 at 11:36 AM, John Stone said:

arguably make more sense for Alberta to secede than Quebec

Argued by an idi0t maybe! Distinct history? History of Independence? Different religion? Cultural difference? Geographic distinction?
No on all counts. 
Zero on all proper reasons to form a country. and almost half a million signatures that proves not a dime should be spent furthering the issue.

 

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5 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

There are 4.5 million plus Albertans , if your going to use the same standards as Quebec the vote would need 50 plus percent of the vote....your 465,000 represent only "about" 10 % of the population....Those signatures would have a choice to make stay in Alberta and live with the results, or pack up and leave....

US has already made it clear they would take in Alberta no questions asked....which most likely include Sask, maybe Manitoba....which would give those provinces a huge bargaining chip in any negotiations...And with trump in power i don't see how this could work out for the ROC, and BC would  become land locked....Your source paints a grim picture....but i don't think it is a grim as it looks....I don't really see the ROC standing alone, with Ontario being the only economical viable province striped of its steel, aluminum, not to mention automotive industry being gutted... they would be easy targets for Trump to swallow up....It would no be long for the American flag to be flying every where....

 

We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.

Posted
20 minutes ago, herbie said:

Argued by an idi0t maybe! Distinct history? History of Independence? Different religion? Cultural difference? Geographic distinction?
No on all counts. 
Zero on all proper reasons to form a country. and almost half a million signatures that proves not a dime should be spent furthering the issue.

 

1/2 a million out of 4.5 plus million.....not even 10 percent... the fat lady has not sung yet...not to mention all those Albertans that live outside the province that would want a vote..... 

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We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.

Posted
37 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

BC would  become land locked...

Except for the Pacific Ocean that is....Ironically BC would probably be left feeling even more separate from Ottawa than ASB.

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What do these separatists think will happen it Alberta separates. All that oil will sit in the ground because there will be no where to move it. Alberta will be isolated. 

The economic dynamic that determines where the centres of power lie is determined by geography, not politics. Even if it were not such a terrible idea, these people don't understand the price they will pay. 

Do these people think loyalists will just sit back and let them destroy our country and the lives of our children? And, for what?

 

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Good God, I listed the reasons to claim nationhood and 'for an imagined dollar more' is not in the list.

The Court could rule that Alberta is solely the creation of Ottawa, which it is and rule they could dissolve the Legislature and revert it Territorial status if they wished.
An Independent Alberta would be the one landlocked and f*cked, who in their right mind thinks dealing with other countries is easier than being within one?
Slap the traitorous shitheads that want independence, hang the ones that want to do so and join the USA.

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3 hours ago, Army Guy said:

There are 4.5 million plus Albertans , if your going to use the same standards as Quebec the vote would need 50 plus percent of the vote....your 465,000 represent only "about" 10 % of the population....Those signatures would have a choice to make stay in Alberta and live with the results, or pack up and leave....

US has already made it clear they would take in Alberta no questions asked....which most likely include Sask, maybe Manitoba....which would give those provinces a huge bargaining chip in any negotiations...And with trump in power i don't see how this could work out for the ROC, and BC would  become land locked....Your source paints a grim picture....but i don't think it is a grim as it looks....I don't really see the ROC standing alone, with Ontario being the only economical viable province striped of its steel, aluminum, not to mention automotive industry being gutted... they would be easy targets for Trump to swallow up....It would no be long for the American flag to be flying every where....

 

Only providing a link. Didn't come to argue.

I feel that same about Alberta as I did about Quebec...go.

You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.

Posted
3 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

What do these separatists think will happen it Alberta separates. All that oil will sit in the ground because there will be no where to move it. Alberta will be isolated. 

The economic dynamic that determines where the centres of power lie is determined by geography, not politics. Even if it were not such a terrible idea, these people don't understand the price they will pay. 

Do these people think loyalists will just sit back and let them destroy our country and the lives of our children? And, for what?

 

Why would it sit in the ground, the world is far from whining itself off oil...And while Canada might have a lip on for Alberta it still needs oil as well trump is setting up more pipelines linked to Alberta , it loves cheap Canadian oil...as long as Alberta has oil it will have customers...

The price is going to be paid by both sides, there will be a landslide of provinces looking for a new home...it might not happen all at once but Ontario and it's economy is not enough to provide for the roc, Trump will be waiting with bargain basement offers...

Canadians will be to worried about how they are going to survive, those on CPP, OAS, government pensions all of that will disappear...for most Canadians they won't even know what hit them.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

trump is setting up more pipelines linked to Alberta , it loves cheap Canadian oil...

Yup, and who needs to slap a tariff on someone who in all likelihood will keep giving the US the discount it insists on? 🤣

With friends like Alberta who needs friends?

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4 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Yup, and who needs to slap a tariff on someone who in all likelihood will keep giving the US the discount it insists on? 🤣

With friends like Alberta who needs friends?

Just let Alberta go, you all will get absorbed next. No need to moan about who gets to go first.

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I still do not understand what these people think they will gain, compared to what they will loose.

Fortunately, there are 4.47 million Albertans who are smart enough to remain in Canada.

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21 hours ago, Army Guy said:

1/2 a million out of 4.5 plus million.....not even 10 percent... the fat lady has not sung yet...not to mention all those Albertans that live outside the province that would want a vote..... 

Go ahead...become part of the US.

See what happens to your wages when you do.

See what happens to your union and demands when you are part of the US.
See what happens to your health care when you are part of the US. 

See what happens to those Albertans that live out of Alberta when you are part of the US 

You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.

Posted
On 10/31/2025 at 11:36 AM, John Stone said:

...arguably make more sense for Alberta to secede than Quebec - OMG, can you imagine Quebec as a country in North America? The only culture they'd retain would be that in their yogurt! 

Yes but it would be the poutine capital of the world. You have to dream big!

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Had better start running."

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Alberta has come moderately close to having the support necessary to separate a couple of times, and I remember those times. It's just doesn't feel like it's got the same steam or energy.

But I don't know that it needs to. I think that smith's goal here is to make separation seem plausible enough that the feds can't ignore it and have to sit down and cave to some of her demands. Which is pretty much how Quebec has operated forever.

 

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On 11/1/2025 at 10:35 PM, eyeball said:

Yup, and who needs to slap a tariff on someone who in all likelihood will keep giving the US the discount it insists on? 🤣

With friends like Alberta who needs friends?

Carney has given away much more than smith ever will...and we still don't have a deal 6 months later...tick tock the clock is ticking...

We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.

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On 10/31/2025 at 11:36 AM, John Stone said:

...arguably make more sense for Alberta to secede than Quebec - OMG, can you imagine Quebec as a country in North America? The only culture they'd retain would be that in their yogurt! 

And there would go their precious french language especially if America eventually had to take them over to save them from going Venezuela. Only this time the french will not be receiving hundreds of billions of American tax dollars from the American government to save their precious french slang language. The only reason that the french are able to keep their french language alive and well in Canada is because of the rest of English Canada being forced to pay to help save their precious french language. Alberta must separate from Canada asap. It will be the only reason to be able to put Canada to death and let it RIP. Just my opinion. 

Posted
13 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

Carney has given away much more than smith ever will...and we still don't have a deal 6 months later...tick tock the clock is ticking...

Carnage the destroyer was given the job of the dictator of Canada to be in charge of Canada to destroy the old Canada and to help bring in a WEF Marxist globalist social credit like system and to also implement a digital currency and a digital Id card. If the conservatives do not win the next election, the old Canada is gone and Canada will then have to welcome in a new world order WEF globalist Marxist government that will be making freedom of speech a criminal offence.

No more freedom, just tyranny and slavery for all who remain in Canada when that day comes. Don't laugh because it is all in the WEF globalist communist manifesto. Go read it yourself if you do not believe me. 🤔

This is why Alberta must go and get out of Canada now before it is too late for Albertans to separate. The globalists will make sure and do everything they can to make sure that Alberta separation will never happen on their globalist watch. 

Just saying. 

Posted (edited)
29 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

Carney has given away much more than smith ever will...

True enough I guess, Carney's apparently forgone collecting some $20 billion from us by not making us pay tariffs on US goods.

Would you rather see Canadians keep and spend that money themselves on other things they need or would you rather it have gone into Carney's budget instead?

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