Trump's Epstein note is Real

[CdnFox]

56 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Mr. Trump knows how to sue people if nothing else. Why doesn't he sue the Epstein estate for claiming the infamous document is his? Kash Patel claimed he would open an investigation into how such a forgery got in there. Let’s see how far that goes.

A lawsuit Would keep the Epstein story in the newspapers 24/7 for months. That is the last thing he would want

[WestCanMan]

On 9/11/2025 at 10:33 AM, SpankyMcFarland said:

And no sooner do I mention Mandy than he is gone:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/11/keir-starmer-sacks-peter-mandelson-over-jeffrey-epstein-revelations

 

While I'm not against seeing people who were 100% known to be involved with Epstein (regarding the sex charges) face the music in some way, I hate that it's only 1% of them.

Honestly, that's probably the best 1% of them, because they are the ones who have fallen out of favour with both sides, which places them in the middle.  

Is there a "best 1% of pedophiles"? TBH, i don't think that everyone who is implicated with Epstein is necessarily a pedophile. 1) For sure there are some people who would have visited his island to give it a sense of credibility, and who would have left knowing nothing about the girls, and 2) I know some sleezy business people here and they all like to keep a circle of decent people around them to lend the impression of decency. It's an important part of the con game. They like to bring their theoretical wives to functions as well, so that they seem like family men, but they are not even close. 

Now, you could say that it's ridiculous for me to contend that people who are in good standing with higher-ups on either side of the political spectrum would get protection from justice, but what friend of a former president is gonna pay the piper just for having sex with a 14-yr-old girl? That's not how it works. Those guys are all thick as thieves. 

I'd even contend that people like Epstein and Diddy are important cogs on the wheel, because they're the ones who get the dirt on everyone else, to keep them all in line. 

What better way to keep someone in line than get them drunk, and get them on video having sex with someone that they thought was 18, who turns out to be 15?  There are 15-yr-olds who look 20 and 28 yr olds who look 14. 100%. 

Who's gonna get arrested for anything to do with Diddy's escapades? 

Who's gonna get arrested for anything to do with Epstein's escapades? 

[SpankyMcFarland]

49 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

A lawsuit Would keep the Epstein story in the newspapers 24/7 for months. That is the last thing he would want

But if he knows the document is false he would be vindicated. 

[CdnFox]

Just now, SpankyMcFarland said:

But if he knows the document is false he would be vindicated. 

That wouldn't matter. Even if it ended up with him getting a note from god the damage would be insane over that period of time. And Let's get real, no matter what his detractors would insist that somehow he got away with it and it was all fake and rigged.

There's absolutely no universe where he gets a benefit from that and the damage would be horrendous. At this point it's not about whether he's innocent or not in his mind it's about getting people to talk about literally anything else

[BeaverFever]

Even conservative mainstream publications like wall street journal don’t stoop so low as to fabricate false evidence. Their bias is selective reporting, omission of relevant context and one-sided commentary analysis. 
 

This reminds me of the Rob Ford crack video. When it was first reported the right wing internet crackpots started with their ridiculous fantasies that the Toronto Star deliberately fabricated the story like they sat around and said “let’s make up a ridiculous lie to take this guy down”. Meanwhile in the real world shit like that doesn’t happen with mainstream media and Ford’s staff testified as soon as The Star reporting validated the Gawker allegations they knew it had to be true.   Also all the stories The Star reported about Ford driving drunk were also proven true, contrary to conservative lies.  And the reason Ford was under police surveillance also proved to valid, not a deep state conspiracy as the right had claimed.   Did the right wing nuts ever issue a mea culpa over hoe wrong they were?  Nope, they said how dare we continue to talk about a sick man who needs help give him some privacy and changed the subject. That’s how they roll. 

[robosmith]

19 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

But if he knows the document is false he would be vindicated. 

What do you believe are the chances of that? LMAO

Trump will never do DISCOVERY in that case.

Edited September 18, 2025 by robosmith

[SpankyMcFarland]

Politics is not as easy as it looks. Take the example of Howard Lutnick, a highly successful businessman and CEO of Cantor Fitzgerald who is now secretary of commerce. For no reason whatsoever he has blundered into the Epstein affair and undermined the White House line:

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Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick called Jeffrey Epstein, his former neighbor, the "greatest blackmailer ever" during a new interview.

Why it matters: The top Trump secretary's comments contrast with the Justice Department's and FBI's July findings that there's "no credible evidence" that the sex offender blackmailed prominent individuals or kept a "client list."

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"This guy was the greatest blackmailer ever, blackmailed people. That's how he had money," he said.

• "How could he get 18 months and be able to go to his office during the day and have visitors and stuff? There must have been a trade," Lutnick speculated in reference to Epstein's sentence after his 2008sweetheart plea deal in Florida.

https://www.axios.com/2025/10/02/lutnick-epstein-greatest-blackmailer-fbi-patel

 

 

 

[Chrissy1979]

Trump’s “spiritual advisor” convicted of molesting a 12-year-old. Cue his apologists lying and saying she has since recanted her story.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/03/pastor-robert-morris-pleads-guilty
 

 

[Shady]

2 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said:

Trump’s “spiritual advisor” convicted of molesting a 12-year-old. Cue his apologists lying and saying she has since recanted her story.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/03/pastor-robert-morris-pleads-guilty
 

 

So somebody other than Trump did something in 1982.  Cool story.

[Chrissy1979]

20 minutes ago, Shady said:

So somebody other than Trump did something in 1982.  Cool story.

How come he surrounds himself with these people? What’s with you Republicans?

[gatomontes99]

4 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said:

Trump’s “spiritual advisor” convicted of molesting a 12-year-old. Cue his apologists lying and saying she has since recanted her story.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/03/pastor-robert-morris-pleads-guilty
 

 

Robert Morris is from Dallas. Trump had no idea what he did almost 30 years prior to appointing him to his staff. 

[Shady]

1 hour ago, Chrissy1979 said:

How come he surrounds himself with these people? What’s with you Republicans?

Who’s these people?  Regardless, I doubt Trump knows all about people’s private lives 42 years ago.  There’s plenty of things to criticize Trump about, this is just nonsense though.  Try harder.

[Chrissy1979]

32 minutes ago, Shady said:

Who’s these people?  Regardless, I doubt Trump knows all about people’s private lives 42 years ago.  There’s plenty of things to criticize Trump about, this is just nonsense though.  Try harder.

You guys always make excuses cfor the paedophiles. It doesn’t matter because it was a long time ago? Good one!

[Legato]

8 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

You guys always make excuses cfor the paedophiles. It doesn’t matter because it was a long time ago? Good one!

One could hazard a guess that maybe in the past you were given advice from a pedophile. Do you know for sure?

[gatomontes99]

7 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

You guys always make excuses cfor the paedophiles. It doesn’t matter because it was a long time ago? Good one!

No one said that. They said he couldn't possibly know. 

If it is always Republicans, why did Democrats block a Republican bill that would have increased penalties for pedophiles?

Democrats Block Hawley Bill to Get Tough on Child Sex Offenders

And why didn't they release the Epstein files? 

[Chrissy1979]

8 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

No one said that. They said he couldn't possibly know. 

If it is always Republicans, why did Democrats block a Republican bill that would have increased penalties for pedophiles?

Democrats Block Hawley Bill to Get Tough on Child Sex Offenders

And why didn't they release the Epstein files? 

Why don't they?

[SpankyMcFarland]

It’s hard to say whether Lutnick has new first-hand information about former next-door neighbour Epstein or whether he’s just repeating rumours he has heard but either way he is undermining the government line that no other rich people were involved in Epstein’s crimes and that there was no evidence of blackmail. In politics there are many occasions where you are required to keep what you know under wraps. Lutnick doesn’t seem to have absorbed this basic tenet. 

Edited October 5, 2025 by SpankyMcFarland

[Venandi]

On 9/8/2025 at 7:49 PM, Chrissy1979 said:

For starters, he admitted the teenager Prince Andrew raped was "stolen" from his Maralago massage room by Epstein.

Actually, Virginia Giuffre worked at Mar-a-Lago as locker room attendant (in the Spa), she was hired in 2000 at the age of 16.

She was approached by  Ghislaine Maxwell while at work and offered a job as a masseuse for Epstein after she was seen reading a book about massage therapy during her break.. Maxwell told her that no experience was required. 

The only reason Trump even hired her was because her father worked as maintenance man at the estate and he pitched getting her the job. She was only there about two weeks before being approached by Maxwell.  

 I'd love to see the quote you just credited to Trump...

 

Edited October 5, 2025 by Venandi

[Shady]

1 hour ago, Chrissy1979 said:

You guys always make excuses cfor the paedophiles. It doesn’t matter because it was a long time ago? Good one!

I’m just glad people like you are finally curious about the Epstein issue, despite being silent about it throughout Biden’s term in office when he could have released anything.

[LinkSoul60]

You would think that after months of accusations and innuendo an innocent person would want something released if they knew it would vindicated them. That's only common sense and self-preservation. 

Wonder why Trump doesn't want the files released?

[Chrissy1979]

24 minutes ago, Shady said:

I’m just glad people like you are finally curious about the Epstein issue, despite being silent about it throughout Biden’s term in office when he could have released anything.

I wasn’t silent then, stalker-boy.

[Venandi]

23 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Wonder why Trump doesn't want the files released?

I'm guessing that it's because people who had nothing to do with Epstein's illegal activities would be irreparably hurt by the release... including some of the victims who never made the spotlight. 

Look how quickly Criissy jumped to conclusions about Trump recruiting 16 year old girls for his "massage parlour."

Personally, I think total release is a bad idea for that reason (the Chrissy effect).  

I'd say "indict the bad guys and leave innocent people alone." Wonder why you don't want the same thing?

Edited October 5, 2025 by Venandi

[gatomontes99]

16 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

You would think that after months of accusations and innuendo an innocent person would want something released if they knew it would vindicated them. That's only common sense and self-preservation. 

Wonder why Trump doesn't want the files released?

Why do you think he doesn't? 

[Legato]

12 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

You would think that after months of accusations and innuendo an innocent person would want something released if they knew it would vindicated them. That's only common sense and self-preservation. 

Wonder why Trump doesn't want the files released?

So why didn't the Biden crowd of misfits release the documents? We all know they scraped every barrel bottom to find something against Trump.

[LinkSoul60]

5 minutes ago, Venandi said:

I'm guessing that it's because people who had nothing to do with Epstein's illegal activities would be irreparably hurt by the release... including some of the victims who never made the spotlight. 

Look how quickly Criissy jumped to conclusions about Trump recruiting 16 year old girls for his "massage parlour."

Personally, I think total release is a bad idea for that reason... the idea may not resonate with progressives but I'd say "indict the bag guys and leave innocent people alone." 

Wonder why you don't want the same thing?

I'm guessing Trump is named throughout the files and wants to be spared of that humiliation.

His victims want it released so do it.