NDP wants less cissies...

[CouchPotato]

Well at least when it comes to candidates collecting signatures.

The NDP leadership is underway — and the party is limiting signatures from 'cis' men

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OTTAWA — Prospective federal NDP leadership candidates will have to raise $100,000 and amass 500 signatures from members — most of which cannot come from cisgender men — to be officially in the running, according to rules that were released on Tuesday.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/the-ndp-leadership-is-underway-and-the-party-is-limiting-signatures-from-cis-men/ar-AA1LJO2y

[Moonlight Graham]

Discriminating against people who make up nearly half the voting population is a great way to win elections, and even red-pilling a bunch of them.  The concept that everyone should have equal say and equal rights regardless of their race or gender etc has now become a foreign one to the left.  They've abandoned the basic foundations of liberalism and liberal democratic rights.

Progressives have become such a dolt lot over the last decade.  It's no wonder the Democrats are in shambles with this kind of ludicrous nonsense.   These parties have made their bed and now get to lay in it.

Edited September 3, 2025 by Moonlight Graham

[Nationalist]

The Canadian NDP. Bigoted to the very end. Well...if you're Caucasian and straight...you now know who to not vote for.

[CouchPotato]

I think they should go even further, make it more complex, and turn it into a challenging and fun scavenger hunt. 20 signatures from unemployed transgender exterminators, 10 from left-handed lesbians with learning disabilities, a kiss from a one-eyed, two-spirit elder (video proof required), etc... Then, you have to hop back to NDP headquarters in a burlap sack and whoever gets there first becomes the new leader. 

[Politics1990]

i consider myself a ndp  person even though i voted carney in last election. i planned on going back to the ndp  but this is terrible  decision making by the top level people in party... hopfully whoever wins the leadeship doesnt have the same views as them otherwise i fully out  next election also.

[Moonbox]

I mean, if they're that utterly clueless and out of touch, best of luck to them.  Is it any surprise that the NDP was shut out completely from Ontario and it's manufacturing hubs?  What a joke.  

[eyeball]

11 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Progressives have become such a dolt lot over the last decade.  It's no wonder the Democrats are in shambles with this kind of ludicrous nonsense.   These parties have made their bed and now get to lay in it.

I hear you but there's no way I'm jumping into the bed so many conservative dolts have layed out.

It's the extremes that are tearing the world apart.

There should be a wide open opportunity here for a more rational populism to emerge but we'd probably still wind up with more car salesmen applying for the job than anyone else.

Maybe a world run by AI wouldn't be so bad after all.

[taxme]

6 hours ago, Politics1990 said:

i consider myself a ndp  person even though i voted carney in last election. i planned on going back to the ndp  but this is terrible  decision making by the top level people in party... hopfully whoever wins the leadeship doesnt have the same views as them otherwise i fully out  next election also.

A vote for the NDP is just another vote for the Lieberals or vice versa. Both are Marxist political party's and both despise Canada. There is nothing those two Marxists party's want to see more is for Canada to become a full blown communist country. Just my opinion. 

[Legato]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

There should be a wide open opportunity here for a more rational populism to emerge but we'd probably still wind up with more car salesmen applying for the job than anyone else.

 

The last NDP leader car sales guy went to a Jag meet and singh about it. 

NDP ended up with a K-car, on a pension.

 

[SpankyMcFarland]

With his rightward move, Carney has created space for the NDP if they have the wit to use it. On fundamental economic matters they have a stronger message than Poilievre’s Tories who can only appeal to working-class people on social issues. If we see more industrial strife, then protecting collective bargaining will become an important issue and a natural NDP one. 

[Moonlight Graham]

4 hours ago, eyeball said:

I hear you but there's no way I'm jumping into the bed so many conservative dolts have layed out.

It's the extremes that are tearing the world apart.

There should be a wide open opportunity here for a more rational populism to emerge but we'd probably still wind up with more car salesmen applying for the job than anyone else.

Maybe a world run by AI wouldn't be so bad after all.

Well said.

[herbie]

They're extremely good at shooting themselves in the foot before getting out of the gate.
Used to joke about in the 1980s they'd pick a blind woman with no English in a wheelchair as leader so as to congratulate themselves for the moral victory when they lost badly.

Even used to do a comic strip called NDP World in an underground paper. 

- guy goes out to see why bus hasn't moved all day. Driver hired has no legs can't reach the pedals
- guy is drowning so lifeguard puts on his hardhat, safety glasses, steel toed boots, guy's dead by then and lifeguard drowns too
- BOB, the guy with no arms and no legs appointed Consumer Complaints Minister

I was a little resentful then. In 3rd yr Psych I applied for a job in the Hospital. Several interviews only to be told they were required to hire laid off workers who directed traffic onto the ferry first....

[Moonlight Graham]

14 hours ago, Nationalist said:

The Canadian NDP. Bigoted to the very end. Well...if you're Caucasian and straight...you now know who to not vote for.

These things are a bad trend.   The last thing politics needs are parties separated by race and advocating for racial interests rather than ideological ones.   The way to avoid that is to avoid policies that give certain races, sexes etc privileges over others.

[Shady]

6 hours ago, eyeball said:

I hear you but there's no way I'm jumping into the bed so many conservative dolts have layed out.

It's the extremes that are tearing the world apart.

There should be a wide open opportunity here for a more rational populism to emerge but we'd probably still wind up with more car salesmen applying for the job than anyone else.

Maybe a world run by AI wouldn't be so bad after all.

The NDP is the only extreme mainstream party.  That’s why they were decimated in the last election.

[herbie]

8 hours ago, eyeball said:

I hear you but there's no way I'm jumping into the bed so many conservative dolts have layed out.

I hear you. Mulroney and Harper proved they're as useless about fiscal responsibility as the worst of Libs. And only run on gut issues like crime and immigration, nowadays locked their teeth into the American style social conservatism I'll fight tooth and nail against.

• Wasn't a Singh supporter, but it's the party and the platform you vote  for anyways

 

Edited September 4, 2025 by herbie

[SpankyMcFarland]

Jagmeet Singh made so many basic mistakes on image and policy. For example, that Rolex. Firstly, where were the (expletive deleted) handlers? Secondly, why would they be needed on such a basic messaging point if their leader had an ounce of awareness about his role? He should also have given serious consideration to ditching the turban and beard, especially when his relationship with the Khalistan crowd was, let’s say, ambivalent. Terry Milewski was at his absolute sneering best with him on that, knowing the subject inside out. By contrast, Ujjal Dosanjh already offered a clear model of secularized Canadian Sikhism he should have followed and had the actual scars to prove it. Yes, Singh was a good and talented person but he just didn’t have a clue on how to stop the shots coming his way as an ethnic minority leader from a privileged background heading a left-wing party. 

If I were trying to revive the party (and as a Chrétien Liberal my heart isn’t really in this) I would be looking for a hard-headed, genuinely working-class individual, perhaps with a union background, who would compete with Carney on collective bargaining when big strikes happen and the Tories on foreign temporary workers. Don’t let any potential voter go without a fight, except maybe to the Greens. Listen to what working-class Canadians actually want and be angry about their unmet needs. 
 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 4, 2025 by SpankyMcFarland

[Nefarious Banana]

2 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

The last thing politics needs are parties separated by race and advocating for racial interests rather than ideological ones.   The way to avoid that is to avoid policies that give certain races, sexes etc privileges over others.

That would be a good message to send to BC Provincial NDP leader David Eby . . . BC is being cleaved by un~elected UNDRIP and a brain~dead NDP Premier.  

[eyeball]

42 minutes ago, herbie said:

 

• Wasn't a Singh supporter, but it's the party and the platform you vote  for anyways

 

My area has consistently voted for the NDP provincially and federally for years. I don't know that it's mattered much who the individuals were. That said having a representative that's also the Minister of Health doesn't seem to be hurting.

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, Shady said:

The NDP is the only extreme mainstream party.  That’s why they were decimated in the last election.

That's not true. It was out of concern that PP still might squeak out a victory.

I always held out hope the NDP would retain enough seats to form a minority check on power in Parliament.

[Moonlight Graham]

3 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Jagmeet Singh made so many basic mistakes on image and policy. For example, that Rolex. Firstly, where were the (expletive deleted) handlers? Secondly, why would they be needed on such a basic messaging point if their leader had an ounce of awareness about his role? He should also have given serious consideration to ditching the turban and beard, especially when his relationship with the Khalistan crowd was, let’s say, ambivalent. Terry Milewski was at his absolute sneering best with him on that, knowing the subject inside out. By contrast, Ujjal Dosanjh already offered a clear model of secularized Canadian Sikhism he should have followed and had the actual scars to prove it. Yes, Singh was a good and talented person but he just didn’t have a clue on how to stop the shots coming his way as an ethnic minority leader from a privileged background heading a left-wing party. 

If I were trying to revive the party (and as a Chrétien Liberal my heart isn’t really in this) I would be looking for a hard-headed, genuinely working-class individual, perhaps with a union background, who would compete with Carney on collective bargaining when big strikes happen and the Tories on foreign temporary workers. Don’t let any potential voter go without a fight, except maybe to the Greens. Listen to what working-class Canadians actually want and be angry about their unmet needs. 

Interesting.

I think Singh was a nice guy but just too young and inexperienced to lead a federal party.   He was completely new to federal politics, which was obvious.  If he served in the Parliament for a decade guy and reached his 50's in age he'd have a better shot.  But they crowned the guy because he was young, fresh, and exciting.  He also had significant financial support during the leadership race from the Canadian Sikh community if you look at the public donor records.

The NDP, like the Liberals, need to abandon identity politics and focus on real issues for the working class that go beyond free government giveaways that are charged to the debt bill.  People can't find a doctor and can't afford a house and all you hear about is freebie programs and pandering woke stuff.  Economic fundamentals are ignored because its much easier to create a program and give people stuff they don't have to pay for because the money is borrowed.

As far as i'm concerned the NDP and Liberals are economically illiterate (minus possibly Carney).   The CPC are illiterate in their own ways LOL.

Canadian politics is infested with politicians who are far too ideological and not pragmatic enough.

[Shady]

10 hours ago, eyeball said:

That's not true. It was out of concern that PP still might squeak out a victory.

Pierre isn't extreme.  Cutting taxes, balancing the budget, energy projects, ending bail for repeat violent offenders, tying immigration to health care,  employment and housing isn't extreme.  It's boilerplate conservative policy.  As illustrated by some 42% of the vote being cast for it.  By definition the NDP are a fringe/extreme party by the results of the election.

[Moonbox]

15 minutes ago, Shady said:

It's boilerplate conservative policy. 

...and then there's everything else about him...🙄

 

[Shady]

Just now, Moonbox said:

...and then there's everything else about him...🙄

 

Like?

[CouchPotato]

59 minutes ago, Shady said:

Like?

His initials are PP, and if you say them outloud it sounds like pee pee. He smells like terds and farts all day long. He picks his nose and eats it and his nose shoots boogers and if you even go near him you get infested with Nazi cooties. He didn't get that security clearance that would have gagged him. He spends his time as opposition leader being critical of the government instead of agreeing with all the liberal policies leading to our decline. That's just really mean and divisive. These things are all more important than good policy.

[Shady]

2 minutes ago, CouchPotato said:

His initials are PP, and if you say them outloud it sounds like pee pee. He smells like terds and farts all day long. He picks his nose and eats it and his nose shoots boogers and if you even go near him you get infested with Nazi cooties. He didn't get that security clearance that would have gagged him. He spends his time as opposition leader being critical of the government instead of agreeing with all the liberal policies leading to our decline. That's just really mean and divisive. These things are all more important than good policy.

There is definitely such thing as Poilievre derangement syndrome.   The way he gets criticized, you'd think he's the one that's been PM for 10+ years!  LOL