CARNEY Drops MORE Tariffs As Soon As Daddy Trump Tells him. Trump says he likes the guy.

[BeaverFever]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

It depends on what tariffs you're talking about, and whether you're talking to liberals or conservatives.

If Cdn liberals are talking about tariffs that Canadian liberals put on American goods, then the tariffs are heroic and they save the Canadian economy while prices here are completely unaffected. Even imaginary tariffs that a liberal candidate lies about are heroic. 

If Cdn liberals are talking about tariffs that American conservatives put on Canadian goods then all they do is increase the price of goods in the US, and the American economy isn't protected by them. 

Now you understand liberal economics at the PhD level. 

Another false statement. The smart tariffs that Canadians put on American goods those were targeted at specific products meant to have maximum impact on USA and minimum impact on Canadians. Tariffs o items that Canadians could easily substitute or do without such as Kentucky bourbon and Florida OJ.  And it dis have am effect. So yes heroic and smart and minimal impact on prices.  And at the end of the day Canada wants ZERO Tariffs, our tariffs are only retaliatory. 
 

By contrast Trump had dumb tariffs, applied across-the board to every import from every country regardless of whether Americans can substitute it or do without. Many the things he’s tariffing are things Americans and American industries need like potash, cobalt, coffee and bananas and so kn that USA can’t ever produce. So yes, they will increase prices and hurt more than they help. I’ll remind you that the steel tariffs under Trump 1.0 cost tens of thousands of American manufacturing jobs, exponentially more than they created in the steel industry because steel prices went through the roof and manufacturers couldn’t afford it. 

[herbie]

Did you see how in June more Mexican built vehicles were sold in Canada than US built ones?

Let's agree to actual Mexican free trade and not tariff each other's car at all.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Of course Trump is going to say crap like that,, there’s not an honest bone in his body. Even when he loses, he not only claims he won but that that he had the greatest victory in history. 
 

2 be clear TACO Trump backed off his tariff threats MULTIPLE TIMES. That includes when he made the same concession that Carney just did almost 6 months ago. As you’ll recall, when Trump first announced the bogus Fentanyl tariffs against Canada they were originally across the board against our entire economy. Then he walked it back and said it would only be on goods that didn’t comply with USMCA.  He’s been whining ever since that we didn’t exempt USMCA-compliant products like they did. So if your standard is that having USMCA exemption is caving in, Trump caved in months ago. 
 

Of course the worst part about dealing with dishonourable scumbags like Trump and his cult is that they will cease upon any arrangement or courtesy or good faith gesture that is the normal part of bargaining to gloat and jeer and claim they forced you to submit. While we adults have to take the high road and not get dragged into the childish name calling. 
 

As Carney has conveyed from the beginning the real game is pivoting away from USA. There’s no real deal to be made with an incompetent, corrupt and dishonourable president whose words are worthless and who doesn’t respond to reason or facts or respond rationally.  Carney is just buying time and making whatever futile gestures he can in the meantime. 
 

Canada is still the least tariffed country in the world because of the USMCA exemption 

Trump has repetitively added new tariffs month after month. We got the steel tariff, we got the lumber tariff, then he added more products to the steel tariff, we've got the general overall tariff, he only backed down on some of the vehicle stuff because the auto industry begged him to and no, he never backed down on the cusma stuff it was never applied.

Right off the bat you're wrong.

And carney said clearly from the beginning he could do a deal with trump and that he could handle trump. Let's not pretend that elbows up wasn't part of his election campaign. Unfortunately he lied and we're getting clobbered as a result

And none of this is normal good faith gestures. Nobody who knows anything about negotiations thanks carney is handling this well.

The challenge is we're about to go into the whole Free trade review and I could definitely see trump simply saying we're not going to bother negotiate we'll just do it all as part of that, and by that time we'll be just about desperate enough to take what we're given. And i doubt we'll be given much.

As to pivoting away from america Kearney has managed to blow that as well. Inter provincial trade negotiations are dead in the water and nothing really happened there, our Pipeline and infrastructure companies have said they're going to invest most of their money in America. The First Nations are up in arms, The only deals he's talking about involve borrowing yet more billions of dollars that we simply can't afford anymore

And actually Canada is the most tariffed. We have the lowest theoretical rate, but Due to paperwork issues many of our products that should qualify simply aren't. But the real problem is we do more business as a percentage of our economy than any other country. So any level of tariff disproportionately hurts us. The amount of money we're paying in tariffs as a percentage of our economy is probably the largest in the world. And that will slaughter us

[paxamericana]

8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

elbows up

Oh dear, how nationally humiliating.

 

Edited August 27, 2025 by paxamericana

[paxamericana]

10 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

And at the end of the day Canada wants ZERO Tariffs

51st. That’s the best deal on the table.

[Nefarious Banana]

1 hour ago, paxamericana said:

51st. That’s the best deal on the table.

Your clown won't be around forever.  Your country is in as much sh!t as mine.  

Edited August 27, 2025 by Nefarious Banana
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[paxamericana]

47 minutes ago, Nefarious Banana said:

You're clown won't be around forever.  Your country is in as much sh!t as mine.  

Canada 👏is 👏not 👏a 👏sovereign 👏country 👏mmkay. Canada exist to leech off of America's warmth.

Below is a map of where the highest concentration of shameless NATO deadbeat lives.

 

Edited August 27, 2025 by paxamericana

[Nefarious Banana]

Alaska . . . Eleventh province.

[Nefarious Banana]

The United States are anything but . . . united.  

 

[WestCanMan]

12 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Another false statement. The smart tariffs that Canadians put on American goods those were targeted at specific products meant to have maximum impact on USA and minimum impact on Canadians. Tariffs o items that Canadians could easily substitute or do without such as Kentucky bourbon and Florida OJ.  And it dis have am effect. So yes heroic and smart and minimal impact on prices.  And at the end of the day Canada wants ZERO Tariffs, our tariffs are only retaliatory. 
 

By contrast Trump had dumb tariffs, applied across-the board to every import from every country regardless of whether Americans can substitute it or do without. Many the things he’s tariffing are things Americans and American industries need like potash, cobalt, coffee and bananas and so kn that USA can’t ever produce. So yes, they will increase prices and hurt more than they help. I’ll remind you that the steel tariffs under Trump 1.0 cost tens of thousands of American manufacturing jobs, exponentially more than they created in the steel industry because steel prices went through the roof and manufacturers couldn’t afford it. 

^This^ guy doesn't just have a PhD in Left4rd economics, he teaches "Ekonimiks 4 Dummeez" at the Cultist Community Collij.

"Twump tawiffs stoopid. Cawney's tawiffs gooder. An he woulda kept them on if he not get spanked by mean Twumpie!"

[eyeball]

10 hours ago, CdnFox said:

The amount of money we're paying in tariffs as a percentage of our economy is probably the largest in the world.

So you really do figure Trump sends Carney a bill and Carney writes Trump a check.

LMAO!

[Nationalist]

So Marc has his elbows up again i see.

Good...good...

You been had.

[BeaverFever]

10 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Trump has repetitively added new tariffs month after month. We got the steel tariff, we got the lumber tariff, then he added more products to the steel tariff, we've got the general overall tariff, he only backed down on some of the vehicle stuff because the auto industry begged him to and no, he never backed down on the cusma stuff it was never applied.

Right off the bat you're wrong.

You’re wrong. Trump first announced across the board tariffs specifically on Canada and used his fentanyl lies to justify them. He then “paused” the tariffs TWICE after Trudeau and later Carney struck back.  Trump then walked those back to only be on non-USMCA compliant before implementing them.  The “general overall” tariff you refer to is now only on the 15% of trade that is mot USMCA compliant. When Trump announced his country-specific “liberation day” tariffs against each nation, Canada was excluded I  interesting that you don’t count any of these as Canadian wins or signs of Trump weaknesses   This your own bias where you selectively perceive wins and losses that align with your personal preferences   

 

Secondly Trump’s “strategic sector” tariffs on steel,  aluminum, lumber etc were applied against THE ENTIRE WORLD EQUALLY   No country was exempted.  Its very dishonest and disingenuous to suggest that somehow Carney is to blame or failed to stop them  when literally every country on earth is in the same boat  

Of course Trump’s walk-backs are because of domestic pressure not foreign pressure, that’s been a plan the entire tome  A corrupt isolationist like Trump doesn’t care what foreign countries have to say unless it’s to flatter or enrich him  The destructive nature of Trump tariffs on his own citizens and possibly the impact of Canadian counter-tariffs on American industries are what caused the auto sector to lobby Trump  

11 hours ago, CdnFox said:

And carney said clearly from the beginning he could do a deal with trump and that he could handle trump. Let's not pretend that elbows up wasn't part of his election campaign. Unfortunately he lied and we're getting clobbered as a result

And none of this is normal good faith gestures. Nobody who knows anything about negotiations thanks carney is handling this well.

He is dealing with Trump, we are not getting clobbered we are the least tariffed country in the world and if you poke your head outside of the conservative info bubble you’re ensconced in, most people actually do think Carney is doing well and he continues to have high approval ratings.

 

11 hours ago, CdnFox said:

As to pivoting away from america Kearney has managed to blow that as well. Inter provincial trade negotiations are dead in the water and nothing really happened there, our Pipeline and infrastructure companies have said they're going to invest most of their money in America. The First Nations are up in arms, The only deals he's talking about involve borrowing yet more billions of dollars that we simply can't afford anymore

Lol none of that is true you need to come into the real world and find out for yourself what is actively happening not just what your conservative propaganda outlets tell you to believe.   Some FN groups did publicly condemn his plans for fast tracked development while others are on board but you can’t have it both ways claiming he’s doing nothing and that he’s running roughshod over FN.  Both can’t be true at the same time.   Internal trade barriers are not dead in the water,  there are regular updates all the time. Canada just opposes its first LNG shipping facility in BC with much fanfare and Carney just signed a bunch of energy deals in Europe  Enbridge’s US growth strategy was initiated last year before the trade war  

 

[Shady]

Don’t worry guys, Carney has a plan.

 

 

[paxamericana]

3 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

fentanyl lies to justify them

not really, the cartel have been steadily moving fentanyl production up north because of the lax border. They import precursor material from either China or Mexico and do final production in Canada. 

 

3 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

A corrupt isolationist

Americans are natural isolationist, you would have to pay us to get us to care. Trump is giving you that option. After the Soviet collapse, we're not really concern with the security umbrella for the entire planet, unless, you pay us. Again you all need to thank Trump.

3 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

 Enbridge’s US growth strategy

The US is now a net exporter of petroleum product and crude. We're the only country able to guarantee security for said trade too I should add. 

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, eyeball said:

So you really do figure Trump sends Carney a bill and Carney writes Trump a check.

 

??????   Sure... because that's what i said right? ????  I definitely said carney writes trump a cheque directly  LOLOL

LOL  i've told you the voices in your head are not your friends

 

[eyeball]

10 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Sure... because that's what i said right?

That's right, the amount of money we're paying in tariffs you said. 

So again, how does that work, we write them a check or just send bags of cash?

[CdnFox]

8 minutes ago, eyeball said:

That's right, the amount of money we're paying in tariffs you said. 

 

We are at the moment. it's been very well covered that canadian busienss are currently paying the tariffs themselves by discounting them from the price and eating them, and it's also been very widely reported that they can't keep doing so for much longer at all, and they're concerned that when they have to go back to paying full price their orders will dry up entirely.

But... either way how did you get "carney writes a check to trump" out of that? LOL wait till the weekend before you start drinking   

1 hour ago, Shady said:

Don’t worry guys, Carney has a plan.

 

 

In the end this is what will kill him. 

You can announce whatever you like and post whatever figures you like but if people feel they're personally not better off then you're going to have a problem. 

[BeaverFever]

6 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

^This^ guy doesn't just have a PhD in Left4rd economics, he teaches "Ekonimiks 4 Dummeez" at the Cultist Community Collij.

"Twump tawiffs stoopid. Cawney's tawiffs gooder. An he woulda kept them on if he not get spanked by mean Twumpie!"

OMG how juvenile. Thanks for confirming I BURIED YOU in facts and you couldn’t muster an intelligent response. Typical dropout behaviour 

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

it's been very well covered that canadian busienss are currently paying the tariffs themselves by discounting them from the price and eating them

Bullshit.

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

and it's also been very widely reported that they can't keep doing so for much longer at all, and they're concerned that when they have to go back to paying full price their orders will dry up entirely.

More retarded bullshit.

Since Trump’s tariffs took effect in April, his levies have generated about $96 billion in revenue, after customs duties jumped to $28 billion in July, marking an annual increase of 273%. Customs duties accounted for $27 billion in revenue for June, $22 billion in May and $16 billion in April.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerroush/2025/08/12/trump-says-his-tariffs-collected-trillions-in-revenue-so-far-heres-the-real-figure/

Who paid these billions of dollars to the US government?

[WestCanMan]

22 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

OMG how juvenile. Thanks for confirming I BURIED YOU in facts and you couldn’t muster an intelligent response. Typical dropout behaviour 

You didn't state any facts, Beave, you posted insane LPOC drivel.

Trump puts devastating tariffs on us and Carney yaps and then puts his tail between his legs. 

I've never seen anyone try harder to polish a turd than you just did there. 

[August1991]

On 8/22/2025 at 9:41 PM, paxamericana said:

Elbows down Canucks!

 

Some experts say to raise tariffs.

Other experts say to lower tariffs.

=====

Canada's Anglo MSM invariably says that the federal Liberals are doing the correct thing.

Years ago, Pierre Trudeau wrote about this.

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, eyeball said:

Bullshit.

absolute truth, There's been many articles on this, a major spokesperson for small business in canada was on the vassey show talking about it.  Right now canadian businesses have been footing the bill as much as possible. They wanted to keep the trade relationship strong and keep their customers.

But they also say they can't continue to do so and what will happen is that they will lose business. So either way will be paying for it

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Since Trump’s tariffs took effect in April, his levies have generated about $96 billion in revenue, after customs duties jumped to $28 billion in July, marking an annual increase of 273%. Customs duties accounted for $27 billion in revenue for June, $22 billion in May and $16 billion in April.

 

uhhh yeah.  And? What's the point?  do you even know what you're talking about anymore?

Canadian businesses discount their product so that their buyers don't have to pay the cost of the tariffs.  

I'll go slow.  If a product sells for 10 dollars and costs 5 dollars to make, the seller makes 5 dollars.  trump introduces tariffs, so now he wants 5 dollars if it crosses the border.  Rather thant let the buyer pay 15 dollars for the product, the seller reduces his price to five, The purchaser still pays ten dollars, trump gets his five and the seller is out 5 bucks. 

Nobody thinks you're smart, but surely to god you can handle at least that much math?

[ExFlyer]

22 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

^This^ guy doesn't just have a PhD in Left4rd economics, he teaches "Ekonimiks 4 Dummeez" at the Cultist Community Collij.

"Twump tawiffs stoopid. Cawney's tawiffs gooder. An he woulda kept them on if he not get spanked by mean Twumpie!"

Since being elected on April 28th, PM Carney and his government have hit the ground running turning promises into action both at home and on the world stage.

Here’s a look at what they’ve accomplished so far, and what’s coming next:


 Domestic Wins

 One Canada Act Passed
– Reduces interprovincial trade barriers and improves cooperation among provinces and territories.
– Early agreements signed with Ontario, BC, and Atlantic premiers.

 Middle-Class Tax Relief & Affordability
– Introduced tax cuts for middle-income Canadians.
– Announced measures to tackle housing costs and food insecurity.

 Housing Action
– Fast-tracked funding agreements with provinces and cities to accelerate affordable builds.
– Launched a national task force to modernize building codes and speed up permits.

 Carbon Tax Repeal & New Climate Approach
– Repealed the federal carbon tax on consumers.
– Introduced a pragmatic framework to stay on track with climate goals.

 Criminal Justice & Public Safety
– Advanced Bill C-5 to strengthen bail rules and penalties for repeat violent offenders.
– Increased funding for community policing and safety partnerships.

 Team Canada Collaboration
– Convened the First Ministers Meeting to foster provincial collaboration.
– Premier Ford and others have openly supported Carney’s approach.


 Global & Trade Leadership

 G7 Summit Leadership
– Brokered agreements on AI governance and global wildfire prevention.
– Secured $4.3B in defense and reconstruction aid for Ukraine.
– Reaffirmed Canada’s NATO defense spending target by end of 2025.

 Canada–UK Trade Working Group
– Deepening trade, AI, and critical minerals cooperation with the UK.

 Reset with India
– Restored full diplomatic relations and launched working groups on trade and student mobility.

 Canada–EU Summit
– Signed an updated Strategic Partnership Agreement to expand cooperation on supply chains, digital trade, and security.

 Strengthened Australia Ties
– Joint commitments on clean energy, Indo-Pacific security, and agriculture trade.

 Historic Greenland Agreement
– Bilateral deal on Arctic sovereignty, renewable energy, and port development reinforcing Canada’s leadership in the North.

 NATO Summit
– Committed additional Arctic defense funding and enhanced Ukraine support.

 US–Canada Trade Deal
– In negotiations to modernize NAFTA/USMCA.


 Economic & Fiscal Strategy

 Attracted new EU and UK investments in critical minerals and advanced manufacturing.

 Encouraged foreign investors to buy Canadian bonds as a hedge against US unpredictability.

 Committed to balancing fiscal responsibility with growth, no plans to gut services to meet targets.


 What’s Next This Summer & Fall

 Final US–Canada trade deal expected by August.

 New Arctic sovereignty and defense investments.

 Legislation to streamline immigration and tighten border security.

 National Housing Acceleration Program rollout.

 Fall budget unveiling investments, tax cuts, and efficiency measures.


 Bottom Line
It’s been just over two months, and this government has already delivered:

 Core platform promises—tax relief, carbon tax repeal, housing action

 Major international wins—restored alliances, secured funding, strengthened security

 A clear path forward to make Canada more resilient and less dependent on any one trading partner

More work ahead but these results speak for themselves. 

 

[WestCanMan]

9 hours ago, CdnFox said:

absolute truth, There's been many articles on this, a major spokesperson for small business in canada was on the vassey show talking about it.  Right now canadian businesses have been footing the bill as much as possible. They wanted to keep the trade relationship strong and keep their customers.

But they also say they can't continue to do so and what will happen is that they will lose business. So either way will be paying for it

uhhh yeah.  And? What's the point?  do you even know what you're talking about anymore?

Canadian businesses discount their product so that their buyers don't have to pay the cost of the tariffs.  

I'll go slow.  If a product sells for 10 dollars and costs 5 dollars to make, the seller makes 5 dollars.  trump introduces tariffs, so now he wants 5 dollars if it crosses the border.  Rather thant let the buyer pay 15 dollars for the product, the seller reduces his price to five, The purchaser still pays ten dollars, trump gets his five and the seller is out 5 bucks. 

Nobody thinks you're smart, but surely to god you can handle at least that much math?

When you finally get a leftist to admit to something, let me know. 

At best you get people on the left like LinkSoul who will stop lying and run away when they've been skewered, but none of them ever admit to anything. 

We could have bread lines a mile long and liberals would still say "Carney is winning" while they were trying to feed their children grass. 

Edited August 28, 2025 by WestCanMan