Crown seeking 7 years for Tamara Lich

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

You post a litany of paranoiac BS...

The covidjit is calling other people paranoid now 😂

[ExFlyer]

2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

The covidjit is calling other people paranoid now 😂

Holy phuck...westconman made up a word....phuckin ingenious....NOT!!!!

 

Just proving his level of intellect.... so very low HA HA HA 

Edited July 24, 2025 by ExFlyer

[WestCanMan]

57 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Holy phuck...westconman made up a word....phuckin ingenious....NOT!!!!

 

Just proving his level of intellect.... so very low HA HA HA 

Use some adult words now, ef....

ce it, ef. 

You got sucked into believing a string of probably 50 lies, some of them as absurd as "my vax protects me but the unvaxed can give me covid which will kill me", and you sold out your fellow Canadians. Not even just "Canadians", you sold out our younger generations and even our children. 

Fauci started off by saying "covid came from over there" while he was standing in the Wuhan lab with a vial of coronavirus in his hand, and then he led you around by the nose for TWO YEARS while you were none the wiser 😆. 

Can you get sick if you're vaxed, loser?

Can you give granny covid if you're vaxed, loser?

Can you end up in the hospital if you're vaxed, loser?

Can you end up in the ICU if you're vaxed, loser?

Can you die if you're vaxed, loser?

Did the jab get us to herd immunity, loser?

Is the jab 97% effective, loser?

Is the jab 95% effective, loser?

Is the jab 88% effective, loser?

Is the jab 77% effective, loser?

Is the jab 67% effective, loser?

Is the jab 57% effective, loser?

Is the jab 47% effective, loser?

Is the jab 27% effective, loser?

Does it give you a 20% higher chance of surviving now, loser?

Have any m-vaxed Canadians even died of covid, loser?

Why did deaths go up by 36% in 2022, after we vaxed 86% of our population, loser?

Why did hospitalizations triple in 2022, after we vaxed 86% of our population, loser?

Why did our MSM stop talking about covid in 2022 when hospitalizations tripled and deaths went up by 36%, loser?

How is it possible that 90% of our covid deaths were among the vaxed in summer 2022 when the jabs are 97% effective, loser? All of the m-vaxed here would have to get infected 100 times each to end u with that many deaths if the jabs were 97% effective...

How is it possible that 75% of the covid deaths in summer 2022 were among the 3 and 4 times jabbed, loser? Isn't that like layer upon layer of "95% protection"? Or 85%? Or, or, or, or..... 😂 There were barely even any 4-jabbed here at that point, and not for very long. We only started giving idjit jab #4 in about May of that year. 

Is the jab safe, loser?

Has it ever injured a kid, loser?

How long did it take for the vax-fascists to finally admit that children were being grievously harmed and even killed by the jabs, loser?

Do kids even need a jab to protect them covid, loser?

Why did kids start dying of covid 6 times as fast in Canada after we started vaxing them, loser? 

Was it really safe to let people fly in from Wuhan and walk around our int'l airports and then waltz into restaurants, loser?

Was it necessary to prevent Canadians from walking in public parks a week later, loser? 

Did we really need to build "voluntary self-quarantine centres" in Yukon, loser? 

Do you just need 2 jabs, loser? 

Do you just need 3 jabs, loser?

Do you just need 4 jabs, loser?

Do you just need 5 jabs, loser?

Do you just need 6 jabs, loser?

Have you had your 7th jab yet, loser? OMG, are you still alive? GET IT! QUICK! AND FORCE YOUR GRANDKIDS TO TAKE IT! DON'T LET YOUR KIDS VISIT YOU IF THEY'RE NOT JABBED, LOSER!

Did you snitch on your neighbours for having friends over, loser?

Did you cheer when Trudeau poached our first 1.9 million jabs from the 3rd-world charity pool, you racist loser? Your first jab might have been earmarked for a doctor in Africa, racist loser. 

Buddy, just look at all the crap you believed that's all false now. 

YOU STILL HAVEN'T MENTIONED SOMETHING FAUCI SAID IN 2020 OR 2021 THAT'S STILL TRUE TODAY. ALL OF IT WAS EVENTUALLY PROVEN TO BE FALSE, LOSER. FFS, the guy was on our TV's for hours and hours and hours making claim after claim, surely you can find one thing that he said that was true, no?

Honest to God, the closest he came to saying the truth about anything was when he said "herd immunity", because he thinks of us as cattle.

And after all ^^that^^, YOU'RE STILL A FAUCI CULTIST 😆

Do you have a Fauci shrine in your home, loser? A Trudeau shrine?

[herbie]

F*cking max dimwit response. Quotes every anti-vax fallacy as evidence of proof.

Stick to chem trails, Planet X, creation science and flat Earth theories

[ExFlyer]

25 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Use some adult words now, ef....

....

More banter from a second stringer from the confux blowhard team LOL

I certainly hope you are not trying to gain credibility because if you are...it is an EPIC FAIL!!!

LOL HA HA HA

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

1.  

P.S.: And try to do that using stats that didn't come from anyone who had a hand in creating the virus, thanks. 

It's conspiracy theory, that is all. You have an ill-considered opinion that the global network of public health institutions have alterior motives, that they were corralled into following in 2010.

You think that you're equally able to be an epidemiological expert than someone who got their PhD and studied it for years?

And you expect me to believe that?

You're a stranger and so are they.  They have qualifications though and that means something to most of us.

[WestCanMan]

10 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

It's conspiracy theory, that is all. You have an ill-considered opinion that the global network of public health institutions have alterior motives, that they were corralled into following in 2010.

You think that you're equally able to be an epidemiological expert than someone who got their PhD and studied it for years?

And you expect me to believe that?

You're a stranger and so are they.  They have qualifications though and that means something to most of us.

It's not a conspiracy theory, MH.

There isn't a theory there. Just a bunch of facts that you don't like, and which do leave one wondering "How the F did that happen in a civilized country?"

 

Fauci actually did approve GoF research to make the vid transmissible among human cells. Fact.

Then Fauci said "It had to have come from over there", while knowing full well that it was probably his virus out killing people. Fact.

You know both of those things to be true, and yet you still trust Fauci. How does that work, Mike? 

And people were actually banned from FB and other social media giants for talking about the Wuhan lab at that point. Fact.

• Sure, it was considered conspiratorial at that point to say "there's a BSL4 lab in Wuhan that the virus may have come from', but now we all know it's there now, so it's gone from conspiracy to established fact. 

 

I'll pause right here, MH. Is any of that less than 100% factual and accurate?

Sure, it sounds conspiratorial when you say all of the above things together, but all of the above things are 100% true, and they're all important.

Tell me how much you trust Fauci on a scale from 1-100 mikey?  _________ 

[Nationalist]

4 hours ago, Moonbox said:

That's reasonable, but on this topic it's the proverbial "they" who apparently lied to you, and I don't think you could describe what sort of sources you would trust if they challenged and disproved  what you've already chosen to believe.  Could you?   

I trust nobody completely. 

I trust independent internet sources more that I trust any tv news.

Oh...and I trust my instincts and senses most.

Edited July 24, 2025 by Nationalist

[eyeball]

3 hours ago, herbie said:

F*cking max dimwit response. Quotes every anti-vax fallacy as evidence of proof.

Stick to chem trails, Planet X, creation science and flat Earth theories

He never got over 9/11 either.

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

It's not a conspiracy theory, MH.

There isn't a theory there. Just a bunch of facts that you don't like, and which do leave one wondering "How the F did that happen in a civilized country?"

Fauci actually did approve GoF research to make the vid transmissible among human cells. Fact.

Then Fauci said "It had to have come from over there", while knowing full well that it was probably his virus out killing people. Fact.

You know both of those things to be true, and yet you still trust Fauci. How does that work, Mike? 

And people were actually banned from FB and other social media giants for talking about the Wuhan lab at that point. Fact.

• Sure, it was considered conspiratorial at that point to say "there's a BSL4 lab in Wuhan that the virus may have come from', but now we all know it's there now, so it's gone from conspiracy to established fact. 

 

I'll pause right here, MH. Is any of that less than 100% factual and accurate?

Sure, it sounds conspiratorial when you say all of the above things together, but all of the above things are 100% true, and they're all important.

Tell me how much you trust Fauci on a scale from 1-100 mikey?  _________ 

I don't know these things to be true. 

I know that if it were true he couldn't do that alone, unless there was a conspiracy though.

Why wouldn't people turn him in ?  Answer: a conspiracy.

Conspiracy isn't about the facts it's about getting away with it.

I don't trust Fauchi, but I know how open systems work.    I know how institutions work.  Nobody could get away with 9/11.  Nobody can get away with a Climate Hoax.  Unless there was a conspiracy.

Is there one ?  

 

[herbie]

Some people are so absorbed with conspiracy theory they'll never grasp the FACT she was charged and convicted of MISCHIEF, specifically aiding the protest to become a public nuisance.
They're also so absorbed they've deluded themselves into believing that at the time the tiny minority of the public supported the conv1diots was the majority. And continue to lie to this day that it was so.

What else can you think of anyone that thinks the ulterior motive of all the World's Health Agencies is something other than protecting public health?

[Zeitgeist]

16 hours ago, herbie said:

Some people are so absorbed with conspiracy theory they'll never grasp the FACT she was charged and convicted of MISCHIEF, specifically aiding the protest to become a public nuisance.
They're also so absorbed they've deluded themselves into believing that at the time the tiny minority of the public supported the conv1diots was the majority. And continue to lie to this day that it was so.

What else can you think of anyone that thinks the ulterior motive of all the World's Health Agencies is something other than protecting public health?

Because unfortunately the WHO is heavily influenced by China.  It pushed an unproven narrative about the origins of Covid and gaslighted anyone who questioned this narrative, including respected virologists.  Questioning the narrative was painted as racist or anti-science.

The gain of function research taking place, supported by the CDC, was reckless.  It was irresponsible for Chinese virologists with links to the CPC to be permitted to work in a Canadian virus lab and transport viruses to China.  That the lab on the Chinese end was in Wuhan is too coincidental to ignore.

During the Obama years there was an exercise in preparing for a pandemic.  It’s hard not to at least surmise that researchers and governments were taking big risks and assuming that they could manage the fallout of an actual pandemic, whether or not it was due to a lab leak.

We know that the vaccines became irrelevant later in the pandemic, but the Canadian government maintained its vax mandate and restrictions until the public had simply had enough.  The convoy was the activist manifestation of that growing public sentiment.

The government imposed quasi martial law in an attempt to stomp out opposition, but they couldn’t maintain it through the Senate, so they rescinded the Emergencies Act.

Trudeau really mismanaged the pandemic response and stoked division, as he did with Truth and Reconciliation and the unproven claims of native burial sites which caused a serious blow to Canada’s international image and patriotism. The country became weaker and ripe for Trump’s coercion.

That the Liberals are still in office, I believe, speaks to a compromised, ideologically-captured mainstream Canadian press. This is due at least in part to government funding of media. It’s also due to a Liberal media bias. The Conservatives haven’t had a prayer in Canada of getting elected in a decade. The public is taught to fear them.

Edited July 25, 2025 by Zeitgeist

[Venandi]

3 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

That the Liberals are still in office, I believe, speaks to a compromised, ideologically-captured mainstream Canadian press. This is due at least in part to government funding of media. It’s also due to a Liberal media bias.

A few years ago I wouldn't have thought it possible to garner enough support for complete and total madness to form a quorum. It was nothing more than an interesting theory... I was always the one saying noooooo, stop it, they'll never fall for it.

Looking back, I failed to acknowledge the power of a unified government, security force, and media cooperative and I'm  glad I never made any bets on it. The other thing I failed to acknowledge was the level of investment (in a theory) people will maintain over time. Once fully invested, they rarely admit they were wrong. You can see that right here on the forum... and it doesn't matter a bit what side of the issue you're on either. It's on full display. I never expected that open discussion between peers in an environment of easy access to information would create impenetrable stove pipes; or that those stove pipes could generate as much name calling and hatred as they are clearly capable of doing.

Personally, the NS wolf hoax was a turning point for me and anyone unfamiliar with it should google it.... a small scale effort, completely accidental release and shutdown almost immediately, but it had exponentially larger effects than anyone could have anticipated.... funny and sad at the same time. Sort of like a Monty Python skit.

I still laugh at the thought of it, especially the email stream that starts with "please tell me this wasn't you guys." 

I can't see history being kind when future generations study the collective thought process behind efforts like defunding police or clawing shotguns out of the hands of rural duck hunters thinking it will curb drug fuelled ethnic gang violence in Toronto.

Show people (meaning true believers) government statistics and they will still maintain course to Crazy Island, absolutely convinced that it's the place to be. Even those whose resolve has flagged a bit will say things like: "well, we had to do something."

My fav though is that even knowing that a leaky lab in China was doing GOF research on the self same virus that caused a global pandemic, and that several (four I think) lab workers were hospitalized with covid  just prior to a massive spread, that people refused to see the connection and were convinced it was a species jump.

Not just persuaded, but utterly supportive of de-platforming, firing and harassing renowned virologists for suggesting we should pause and just think about it for a second.

Nope.... LOL, it was a Raccoon Dog from a wet market two blocks away. Almost as funny as the wolf hoax IMO.

My goodness, if anyone with a time machine had offered me a bet i(n advance of the pandemic happening), I'd have lost the farm and then some.

As a PS, here's a link to the CBC report on the wolf thingy. I couldn't resist reading it again. Some of the comments at the end are worth a glance too:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/leaked-wolf-letter-nova-scotia-1.7093141

 

 

Edited July 25, 2025 by Venandi

[Zeitgeist]

3 hours ago, Venandi said:

A few years ago I wouldn't have thought it possible to garner enough support for complete and total madness to form a quorum. It was nothing more than an interesting theory... I was always the one saying noooooo, stop it, they'll never fall for it.

Looking back, I failed to acknowledge the power of a unified government, security force, and media cooperative and I'm  glad I never made any bets on it. The other thing I failed to acknowledge was the level of investment (in a theory) people will maintain over time. Once fully invested, they rarely admit they were wrong. You can see that right here on the forum... and it doesn't matter a bit what side of the issue you're on either. It's on full display. I never expected that open discussion between peers in an environment of easy access to information would create impenetrable stove pipes; or that those stove pipes could generate as much name calling and hatred as they are clearly capable of doing.

Personally, the NS wolf hoax was a turning point for me and anyone unfamiliar with it should google it.... a small scale effort, completely accidental release and shutdown almost immediately, but it had exponentially larger effects than anyone could have anticipated.... funny and sad at the same time. Sort of like a Monty Python skit.

I still laugh at the thought of it, especially the email stream that starts with "please tell me this wasn't you guys." 

I can't see history being kind when future generations study the collective thought process behind efforts like defunding police or clawing shotguns out of the hands of rural duck hunters thinking it will curb drug fuelled ethnic gang violence in Toronto.

Show people (meaning true believers) government statistics and they will still maintain course to Crazy Island, absolutely convinced that it's the place to be. Even those whose resolve has flagged a bit will say things like: "well, we had to do something."

My fav though is that even knowing that a leaky lab in China was doing GOF research on the self same virus that caused a global pandemic, and that several (four I think) lab workers were hospitalized with covid  just prior to a massive spread, that people refused to see the connection and were convinced it was a species jump.

Not just persuaded, but utterly supportive of de-platforming, firing and harassing renowned virologists for suggesting we should pause and just think about it for a second.

Nope.... LOL, it was a Raccoon Dog from a wet market two blocks away. Almost as funny as the wolf hoax IMO.

My goodness, if anyone with a time machine had offered me a bet i(n advance of the pandemic happening), I'd have lost the farm and then some.

As a PS, here's a link to the CBC report on the wolf thingy. I couldn't resist reading it again. Some of the comments at the end are worth a glance too:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/leaked-wolf-letter-nova-scotia-1.7093141

 

 

The pandemic response was at least as alarming as the pandemic itself in my opinion.  I think of Jack Nicholson’s character in Anger Management doing things to make Adam Sandler’s character extremely angry then offering to help him manage the anger.  The whole pandemic episode looks like a reckless experiment that probably caused the pandemic then gave us a fascistic response to keep us safe.  Even asking questions about the origins of COVID and whether or not our restrictions and mandates were always appropriate made you a right wing conspiracy theorist nut job.  It was a gaslighting of anyone who demonstrated critical thinking.

Most of the public and many in government were simply trying to improve the situation, believing the authorities that they trusted.  I also think that many of the public did start questioning and pushing back.  Putting down the Convoy was an important humiliation for the Liberal government, because they wanted to make it clear who’s in charge.  They more or less won the war of public narratives.  Most of the same people are still running the show.  It’s a sad commentary on how powerless, unquestioning , and fearful the public can be.  The result isn’t good for democracy.  Public trust of government and public institutions has declined for a reason.

Edited July 25, 2025 by Zeitgeist

[ExFlyer]

So...back to topic...

Sentencing for convoy protest leaders Lich, Barber scheduled for Oct. 7

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/lich-barber-sentencing-hearing

[WestCanMan]

15 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

I don't know these things to be true. 

^That^ fight is about:

• the research that was done on the bat coronavirus in the Wuhan lab
• which was funded by the NIH
• while Fauci was the director
• and whether or not it constituted GoF research, 

as if "whether or not it's GoF research" is the major sticking point lol. That's like "Was it your right hand or your left hand in the cookie jar?"

Fauci approved NIH funding for research in the Wuhan lab that made a (or the?)bat coronavirus transmissible among humans, before covid came out. Full stop.

GoF research is illegal in the US, so Fauci funded this research in Wuhan, and it was Fauci himself who changed the definition of GoF research to exclude increased transmissibility. 

Fauci doesn't even deny that he funded that research, he's just saying it didn't constitute GoF research. 

That video isn't me accusing anyone of anything, MH. It's not conspiratorial. It is just an inescapable fact. Fauci had a hand in creating a covid virus in Wuhan. Is it the covid virus? No one in the gov't seems to give a fock. 

 

There is not yet a bigger story of the 2020s than "The guy who spearheaded the fight against covid, and directed us all towards the covid vaccines as the final solution, almost certainly had a hand in creating covid", but CBC missed it. Fauci was the fox in the henhouse, and we were asking him for advice. 

 

Do you think that Fauci's decision to say "covid came from a pangolin" is highly suspect now? 

Quote

I don't know these things to be true. 

Do you "know that Fauci funded research to make a covid virus before he gave us the pangolin speech" now?

Quote

I know that if it were true he couldn't do that alone, unless there was a conspiracy though.

Why wouldn't people turn him in ?  Answer: a conspiracy.

Conspiracy isn't about the facts it's about getting away with it.

I don't trust Fauchi, but I know how open systems work.    I know how institutions work.  Nobody could get away with 9/11.  Nobody can get away with a Climate Hoax.  Unless there was a conspiracy.

Is there one ?  

I can't tell you that it is a conspiracy, you can determine that for yourself.

What I will ask you is: "If a weak, oil-rich nation like Venezuela had created that virus, instead of it being a joint US/China venture, would the US and China be going after Venezuela?"

 

Back in spring 2020 I talked about the fact that in recent decades the Chinese Gov't was forcing couples to limit their family to 1 child, and the excess babies were seized, in an effort to curb their population growth. In 2020 a virus escaped a Chinese lab that killed octogenarians. 

Just facts. No judgment.  

Edited July 25, 2025 by WestCanMan

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

1. No one in the gov't seems to give a fock. 

2. I can't tell you that it is a conspiracy, you can determine that for yourself.

3. What I will ask you is: "If a weak, oil-rich nation like Venezuela had created that virus, instead of it being a joint US/China venture, would the US and China be going after Venezuela?"

4. Back in spring 2020 I talked about the fact that in recent decades the Chinese Gov't was forcing couples to limit their family to 1 child, and the excess babies were seized, in an effort to curb their population growth. In 2020 a virus escaped a Chinese lab that killed octogenarians. 

5. Just facts. No judgment.  

1. Nor do I, really.  
2. It COULD be negligence, matched with cover-up.
3. Would the US lie ?  Of course
4. And ?
5. No... it's implications.

I'm not saying everything you say is wrong.  I'm not saying that institutions are perfect, or even good, or even trustworthy.  But I can believe parts of what you say, without attributing it to some kind of political and partisan plot.

I don't think you're crazy, but maybe paranoid.

 

[WestCanMan]

9 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

Because unfortunately the WHO is heavily influenced by China.  It pushed an unproven narrative about the origins of Covid and gaslighted anyone who questioned this narrative, including respected virologists.  Questioning the narrative was painted as racist or anti-science.

They didn't just gaslight.

People who talked about the Wuhan BSL4 lab on social media, while the MSM was ignoring/downplaying the lab, were shadow-banned (the SM Giants, pretended that shadow-banning wasn't even a thing, as did leftards on this forum) and even received outright bans, just like they did when they talked about the Hunter laptop, which was also true.

When left4rds talk about "conspiracy theories", the BSL4 lab story was a big one. Left4rds protected the pangolin narrative like their first-born, and all pretended to be experts on furin cleavage sites. They tried to sealion, mock and ridicule anyone who objectively talked about common-sense, verifiable truths about the BSL4 lab.

Even the concept of shadow-banning was considered a conspiracy theory, as was the theory that there was an army of bots liking and sharing the DNC cult-leaders' talking points on social media.

And the Hunter laptop story: "CONSPIRACY!!!!!!!" lol.

When conservatives say "We're running out of conspiracy theories because all the old ones are true now", they weren't joking. There were a lot of them. ^That's^ just the tip of the iceberg.

 

When you talk to the left4rds here about these topics, just remember that they were all squarely on the wrong side of all these stories. They backed the false narratives with religious fervour and now they have to shut up and lump it. That's why they can't acknowledge the point we're at right now. 

[WestCanMan]

1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Nor do I, really.  
2. It COULD be negligence, matched with cover-up.
3. Would the US lie ?  Of course
4. And ?
5. No... it's implications.

I'm not saying everything you say is wrong.  I'm not saying that institutions are perfect, or even good, or even trustworthy.  But I can believe parts of what you say, without attributing it to some kind of political and partisan plot.

I don't think you're crazy, but maybe paranoid.

 

• You're assigning subjective undertones to my objective statements
• Those are all objective facts. Whether or not they show that the major players were complicit in spreading false narratives and butt-raping the laws of civil discussion in order to prevent the truth from getting out doesn't change that fact. I didn't ask you to jump to any conclusions, just acknowledge who was lying.  
• you're addressing the minor points here while ignoring the elephant in the room:

 

DID

FAUCI

FUND

RESEARCH

IN

THE

WUHAN

LAB

TO 

MAKE 

THE

BAT CORONAVIRUS

TRANSMISSIBLE

AMONG

HUMAN

CELLS,

BEFORE

HE

BLAMED

COVID

ON

A

PANGOLIN?

That's a yes or no answer, an objective truth, and there's no paranoia or conspiracy involved.

1. Do you understand that Fauci was almost certainly guilty of helping to create the covid virus
2. Do you understand that he knew ^that^ when he blamed a pangolin.

Just answer #1 and #2 please. I just want to make sure that you have gleaned the requisite knowledge to even continue with this discussion. 

As long as you're refusing to acknowledge incontrovertible truths laid bare before your eyes there's no point moving forward. I might as well talk to a brick wall. 

[taxme]

On 7/21/2025 at 6:32 PM, Moonlight Graham said:

On the charge of mischief.  For convincing people to block roads with trucks for a peaceful protest.  Would 6 months or a fine + community service and probation be fair?  Sure.  But 7 years is just disgusting politically motivation in this racist 2-tier justice system.

Anyone who disagrees is politically motivated and a hypocrite because none of them including the Crown would be seeking 7 years if this were an indigenous or Black Lives Matter peaceful protest.  Did the Crown seek 7 years for the indigenous people when they blocked railway lines with trucks for weeks in 2020 to protest pipelines?  No, they didn't even charge anyone:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Canadian_pipeline_and_railway_protests#

 

This is way Canada has become a failed country when we see non-whites get the breaks while white conservative minded people like Liesch and Barber get the gears. Freedom to protest is only now reserved for non-whites who commit all kinds of heinous crimes. This what ten years of Marxist lieberalism has done to Canada. 

This is nothing more than political revenge against freedom loving people by a scum bag like globalist Marxist Turdeau who should already be in jail for his crimes against Canadians and crimes against humanity.

Now if he were in jail he would now have to watch his ass. LOL. But then again, the Turd has probably already tried something like that? After all, the Turd did enjoy being with gays in their gay nonsense parades. I guess this is why his wife left the basturd. Just saying. 

[herbie]

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Some people are so absorbed with conspiracy theory they'll never grasp the FACT she was charged and convicted of MISCHIEF, specifically aiding the protest to become a public nuisance

Just can't accept reality people? Gotta carry on with BS like it's 2021 and Covid's ongoing?

No wonder none of you can remotely grasp why the Tories LOST the election. You can't grasp what your own eyes and ears deliver to your tiny withered brains even when given years to interpret it.

[Michael Hardner]

3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

•  

That's a yes or no answer, an objective truth, and there's no paranoia or conspiracy involved.

1. Do you understand that Fauci was almost certainly guilty of helping to create the covid virus
2. Do you understand that he knew ^that^ when he blamed a pangolin.

Just answer #1 and #2 please. I just want to make sure that you have gleaned the requisite knowledge to even continue with this discussion. 

As long as you're refusing to acknowledge incontrovertible truths laid bare before your eyes there's no point moving forward. I might as well talk to a brick wall. 

You're asking if the US engages in biological warfare? That is, plans and designs for it?  I don't doubt that. 

Would they cover it up? Of course. 

These are the same people who gave us wmd and the Gulf of Tonkin.

What's the implication though?

[taxme]

39 minutes ago, herbie said:

Just can't accept reality people? Gotta carry on with BS like it's 2021 and Covid's ongoing?

No wonder none of you can remotely grasp why the Tories LOST the election. You can't grasp what your own eyes and ears deliver to your tiny withered brains even when given years to interpret it.

The lieberals won by fraud. There can be no way that PP lost the election with the fantastic lead PP had on Carnage months before the election. Canada is still living in 2021 and still living under covid rules. 

Why does your beloved lieberal political party keep coming out with more and more anti-freedom speech laws all of the time like with C-11, C-18 and C-63? All those C's are meant to stifle freedom of speech. 

It is dumb ass lieberals like you that cannot see reality but prefer to live in a land of propaganda bullshit and lies. Carnage will not do anything to try and make Canada great. Carnage will still keep hammering away at destroying Canada. Lieberals like you appear to be the ones with no brains. 🤡

[WestCanMan]

15 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

You're asking if the US engages in biological warfare? That is, plans and designs for it?  I don't doubt that. 

No I am not. You re-framed my question into something that it absolutely wasn't. I was just s'posing that China may have done so (while they were busy doing so), but that was an aside.

• Did Fauci approve NIH funding for what became the covid virus? Don't extrapolate and give an answer in some random direction, just answer my question. It's an objective question, not a request for an opinion on a loaded question.

I can't say why Fauci did it, how altruistic or evil his intentions were, or whether or not the Chinese just did their own thing with a virus that Fauci funded just to study it.

I just know that Fauci funded it, and then failed to disclose its existence, and that there was a concerted effort by a lot of people to keep that info hidden for a long time, and it's sad to see who participated in that, and to what extent. 

If you gave me money so that we could jointly study that virus and then I let it out somewhere that makes you a sucker, not a willing perpetrator.  

Edited July 25, 2025 by WestCanMan

[herbie]

1 hour ago, taxme said:

The lieberals won by fraud. There can be no way that PP lost the election with the fantastic lead PP had on Carnage months before the election.

What more evidence of utter delusion does anyone need? Keep posting you haven't dug through the mantle yet....