Now - we heal, unite and pull together.

[Barquentine]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Sure...I can give my kids homes for cheap...as he can I suspect...but I've taught my kids to be independent.

 

9 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

and fck the young.

 

[Nationalist]

3 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

 

 

What's that supposed to mean Libbie?

[WestCanMan]

44 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

What's that supposed to mean Libbie?

Who cares? 

He's an id10t. The less he says here, the better.

Anyways, F unity. Liberals are worse than cancer. I have no more interest in uniting with Liberals than the Taliban. 

[betsy]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

@betsy - See? These Libbies have no idea what the young today are facing...nor do they care. Oh they know that the prices and mortgages are way out of reach in reality...but they just don't care. They have their "stuff"...and fck the young.

Canada is one of the most expensive countries in the world to live in. That's never been necessary. But our "leaders" have regulated and taxed Canada to that point. There is no reason Canada should be so expensive EXCEPT for Libbie doctrine. We have the resources and means to make Canada a bastion of success and welcoming for our young. But we sh1t all over our greatest treasures for fear and hatred.

These are our great Canadian "patriots". Those who had the opportunity to make a home in Canada...and fck the young.

 

Don' t forget -  Trudeau and  the LIBERAL Party has been known to be tone-deaf.  Out of touch with reality.

I suppose we see that attitude reflected on the liberals/progressives who vote for them, no matter what.

 

Edited Wednesday at 06:50 PM by betsy

[ExFlyer]

5 hours ago, Nationalist said:

betsy...I don't think Flyer cares. He has his real estate investments and is comfy with that. I'm in the same boat...but I DO care.

Sure...I can give my kids homes for cheap...as he can I suspect...but I've taught my kids to be independent. They WANT to build their own means, as I did. The problem is, to buy a new home in the GTA, one needs well over $100,000 down payment (probably closer to $200,000) and even then the monthly mortgage payments are about $4000.00. Yet their incomes are nowhere high enough to afford that plus insurance and bills.

When we bought our first house, I made about $3000/month clear. While prices have more than quadrupled since then, salaries have maybe increased by $500/month. On top of that, taxes have gone through the roof and inflation has gone insane.

So Flyer flippantly says...'Well they should learn to save.' I would ask...save for what? The impossible dream?

Libbie mentality...I find it shallow and frankly...destructive by its very nature.

I made far far less than you and still bought a house, I did without and was house poor but I did.

I love all you righteous people telling everyone that you cannot buy a house becasue ...I don't know why...do you??

I have said, houses on the market are selling. That is a fact...check your own real estate listings and sates statistics.

Who is buying??? Only extraordinarily rich people?? Are there that many rich people around?? If so, then the economy is doing quite well.

So, in your self rigorousness and super intellect, how do you get these homes to the people that cannot afford them?? You are a landlord, are you going to lower the rent so they can afford to live there? Are you going to lose money every month to make yourself a saviour??? I think not. You are in it to make money.

Your righteousness says something must be done...does your super intellect tell you what?? Exactly? Building more houses will not bring the price down.

How are you going to build "affordable" houses when property cost is high. When lumber prices are high. When wiring, roofing, electrical, HVAC etc is high priced. When labour rates are higher than ever. When you have to pay for the roads and sewers and water infrastructure etc that adds to the cost of a home?? Are you going to be the saviour and build it for the ones that cannot afford and you will take a loss and absorb all the costs?? I think not.

So, when the reality is hitting you on the head, it is you that is "flippant".  It costs what it costs and sells for what it costs.

You are being pompous, as pompous as PP and Jagmeet. Lots of rhetoric but in reality, the promises are impossible to keep.

 

 

 

Edited Wednesday at 06:52 PM by ExFlyer

[Barquentine]

6 hours ago, Nationalist said:

What's that supposed to mean Libbie?

You don't get irony either.

5 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Anyways, F unity. Liberals are worse than cancer. I have no more interest in uniting with Liberals than the Taliban.

You're free to leave.

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Barquentine said:

You're free to leave.

If anyone's going anywhere it's you, b1tch. 

[Nationalist]

7 hours ago, betsy said:

 

Don' t forget -  Trudeau and  the LIBERAL Party has been known to be tone-deaf.  Out of touch with reality.

I suppose we see that attitude reflected on the liberals/progressives who vote for them, no matter what.

 

Tone deaf? Lol...ya ok...tone deaf. While I truly do figure a few of the Libbies are just plain stoopid...I don't think most are. I think many know how abrasive the Liberal Party is to society...but they don't care. Why? It clearly boils down to hatred. Disgust. TDS. Even in Canada. 

Here's an amusing fact. I heard Trump on a news cast on the radio today, say he thinks he and the carney will get along fine and that of the 2, he figures Poilievre is the one who doesn't like him.

Betsy...sometimes one just has to stand back and take in the fullness and grandier of Libbie foolishness.

Edited yesterday at 02:10 AM by Nationalist

[Nationalist]

7 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

I made far far less than you and still bought a house, I did without and was house poor but I did.

I love all you righteous people telling everyone that you cannot buy a house becasue ...I don't know why...do you??

I have said, houses on the market are selling. That is a fact...check your own real estate listings and sates statistics.

Who is buying??? Only extraordinarily rich people?? Are there that many rich people around?? If so, then the economy is doing quite well.

So, in your self rigorousness and super intellect, how do you get these homes to the people that cannot afford them?? You are a landlord, are you going to lower the rent so they can afford to live there? Are you going to lose money every month to make yourself a saviour??? I think not. You are in it to make money.

Your righteousness says something must be done...does your super intellect tell you what?? Exactly? Building more houses will not bring the price down.

How are you going to build "affordable" houses when property cost is high. When lumber prices are high. When wiring, roofing, electrical, HVAC etc is high priced. When labour rates are higher than ever. When you have to pay for the roads and sewers and water infrastructure etc that adds to the cost of a home?? Are you going to be the saviour and build it for the ones that cannot afford and you will take a loss and absorb all the costs?? I think not.

So, when the reality is hitting you on the head, it is you that is "flippant".  It costs what it costs and sells for what it costs.

You are being pompous, as pompous as PP and Jagmeet. Lots of rhetoric but in reality, the promises are impossible to keep.

 

 

 

Ever ask "why" inflation...in particular house prices...are so nuts? How is it that 15 years ago a nice house in Toronto was 230,000 and today it's pushing 1.5 million. How did that happen? Could it have been...wealthy Chinese?...wealthy Indians? And how is it rents have gone up drastically. How many "student visa" kids are out there? Paying whatever because their family is paying for it all. After which, the student brings the whole family over. I've seen this up close...several times. Hell we even had to adjust home purchase laws to cool the rush down. Who did that? And fckin' Hell WHY?

Then there's the stifling regulations...and the icing on the cake...

"Hey The Rona is seriously hurting the entire economy! I got a great idea! Let's sh1t on fuel and energy production RIGHT NOW!" 

My Gawd...either the dumbest or the most malicious act leadership could have made.

I'll leave you to choose which...

[Army Guy]

On 4/29/2025 at 2:10 PM, TreeBeard said:

You mean the two prairie provinces, correct?  
 

BC, Yukon and MB seemed to elect plenty of Libs and don’t seem to be party to the grievance culture of the prairies. 
 

Saying “the west” seems to exaggerate the problem. 

Last time the west talked about separation it was BC, Alberta, Sask,Man....all the western provinces....it's a large block of canadians...Alberta is already in progress of making separation much easier....and if they go the entire nation of Canada will cease to exist....who is going to support Quebec....and the atlantic provinces...Canada will be a dream we once had and could not satisfy everyone in the union....You can sing the star spangled banner...right....thats is what is at stake, if we can't come together as one nation....it is mission impossible....we are to divided....

[Legato]

9 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

Last time the west talked about separation it was BC, Alberta, Sask,Man....all the western provinces....it's a large block of canadians...Alberta is already in progress of making separation much easier....and if they go the entire nation of Canada will cease to exist....who is going to support Quebec....and the atlantic provinces...Canada will be a dream we once had and could not satisfy everyone in the union....You can sing the star spangled banner...right....thats is what is at stake, if we can't come together as one nation....it is mission impossible....we are to divided....

But wait, Doug Ford is waiting in the wings to don his armour, lift Excalibur to the sky and gallop into the fray on a white horse to save us all from Trump and his Orcs.

It might work but I think he bought the round table from Ikea.

[herbie]

On 4/29/2025 at 6:50 AM, ExFlyer said:

You are a very bad example for conservatism LOL

He's NOT a conservative. He likes to think he is and will never understand how the influence of people like him prevent many of us for even thinking about voting CPC.

[TreeBeard]

43 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

Last time the west talked about separation it was BC, Alberta, Sask,Man....all the western provinces...

You’re full of shite.  BC and MB have never “discussed separation”. 
 

 

[Barquentine]

18 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

If anyone's going anywhere it's you, b1tch.

Oh, you're so silly!

[Army Guy]

17 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

You’re full of shite.  BC and MB have never “discussed separation”. 
 

 

Do some research, Alberta is already trying to leave the CPP and start it's own retirement plan Alberta's share comes to 20 % of the total package, along with BC. Alberta, Sask, Man are also looking to form a western union for CPP plan....This alone would collapse the CPP plan for all Canadians left in the union...

Alberta has talked to the western provinces about leaving the union of Canada...Smith has already warned about this before the election, and most canadians refuse to believe her....What do you think BC is going to do if it is cut off from the rest of Canada....

[CdnFox]

On 4/30/2025 at 11:50 AM, ExFlyer said:

I made far far less than you and still bought a house, I did without and was house poor but I did.

 

Lego doesn't count.

The kids today can't buy a house probably even not a Lego one. Not all of them can live in their mother's basement like you. And the ones who can would rather be out in the real world if they could make their own way

The kids today are screwed. Their housing costs representing obscene percentage of their income, they'll never be able to afford a down payment never mind a house unless Mommy and Daddy can help, and their prospects are getting worse. Their food costs more, their income is growing slowly and their opportunity is dwindling

That's the liberal legacy.

18 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

You’re full of shite.  BC and MB have never “discussed separation”. 
 

 

BC absolutely has and in fact pulled higher for it than Alberta at the time. This was just before harper's first election. But absolutely separatism has been on the table in British Columbia and if alberta and Saskatchewan left guaranteed if they had to make a choice PC would almost certainly go with them rather than try and remain part of Canada at a distance

[ExFlyer]

7 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Lego doesn't count.

The kids today can't buy a house probably even not a Lego one. Not all of them can live in their mother's basement like you. And the ones who can would rather be out in the real world if they could make their own way

The kids today are screwed. Their housing costs representing obscene percentage of their income, they'll never be able to afford a down payment never mind a house unless Mommy and Daddy can help, and their prospects are getting worse. Their food costs more, their income is growing slowly and their opportunity is dwindling

That's the liberal legacy.

....

Harper had the same problems. It is a good thing Carney was his financial advisor and Governor of Bank of Canada to help him.

There is nowhere that it says you are entitled to buy a house, or car, or vacation for that matter.

Harpers Legacy....not so good

https://policyoptions.irpp.org/magazines/october-2016/economic-performance-and-policy-during-the-harper-years/

[CdnFox]

Just now, ExFlyer said:

Harper had the same problems. It is a good thing Carney was his financial advisor and Governor of Bank of Canada to help him. years/

Carney wasn't his financial advisor, his finance minister was.  And Carney did as he was told by the two of them   

Harper thinks pp is the better choice.  So.... there you go!

[TreeBeard]

49 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

along with BC. Alberta, Sask, Man

BC and Manitoba have never discussed leaving the CPP.  I don’t even think Saskatchewan has. 

Also, a retirement plan is not secession.  
 

51 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

This alone would collapse the CPP plan for all Canadians left in the union...

This makes no sense given Ontario’s GDP is larger than all four of those provinces put together.

 

54 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

Alberta has talked to the western provinces about leaving the union of Canada

When?  And what did the other provinces think of this “plan”? 

 

55 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

What do you think BC is going to do if it is cut off from the rest of Canada....

Why would BC be cut off?   This is more fantasy.  Alberta has the borders it does because that’s what Canada decided.  Alberta has no right to secession or keeping its borders if it manages to convince Canada to change the Constitution so it could leave. 

[cougar]

On 4/30/2025 at 7:43 AM, Nationalist said:

...and fck the young.

Those who had the opportunity to make a home in Canada...and fck the young.

If you are correct, then it must be only conservatives who have kids. 

[Nationalist]

27 minutes ago, cougar said:

If you are correct, then it must be only conservatives who have kids. 

No. Just that many Libbies don't seem to care.

[cougar]

3 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

No. Just that many Libbies don't seem to care.

They must care about their own kids at least.  Strange.  😕

[Nationalist]

36 minutes ago, cougar said:

They must care about their own kids at least.  Strange.  😕

One would hope...but it sure doesn't look like they do.

[Army Guy]

4 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

BC and Manitoba have never discussed leaving the CPP.  I don’t even think Saskatchewan has. 

Also, a retirement plan is not secession.  
 

This makes no sense given Ontario’s GDP is larger than all four of those provinces put together.

 

When?  And what did the other provinces think of this “plan”? 

 

Why would BC be cut off?   This is more fantasy.  Alberta has the borders it does because that’s what Canada decided.  Alberta has no right to secession or keeping its borders if it manages to convince Canada to change the Constitution so it could leave. 

Again do your own research....

It is the start to one....where do you think Ottawa is going to get the money to give to the western provinces....

Ya right it is...

Do you think Alberta has asked them....they don't care what you think, they are concerned about the western provinces...

Why is it Quebec can make demands about secession and not Alberta....Quebec was not going to secede any borders..and neither is Alberta unless it is beneficial for alberta...The constitution already has a clauses in it for secession... it is not Canada's choice it is any province that wants to leave....what do you think is going to happen if for whatever reason alberta leaves....BC will have choices to make it will be cut off from the ROC....just like the maritimes did when Quebec had their vote...What do you think the US will do if alberta separates....they will offer them citizenship it will be trumps wet dream.....

Alberta has already warned Canada, this is not something they dreamed up yesterday....this has been in the works for some time.....And if Carney does not pay attention, that day will come Alberta separates and the rest will fall like dominoes...

[TreeBeard]

21 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

The constitution already has a clauses in it for secession... it is not Canada's choice it is any province that wants to leave...

You and @blackbird need to go back to grade 10 Social Studies class.  I can’t even believe Canadians could be this ignorant!   Where did you get the idea that the Constitution allows for secession???  
 

 

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-31.8/section-3.html?txthl=terms#:~:text=3 (1) It is recognized,would require negotiations involving at

• 3 (1) It is recognized that there is no right under the Constitution of Canada to effect the secession of a province from Canada unilaterally and that, therefore, an amendment to the Constitution of Canada would be required for any province to secede from Canada, which in turn would require negotiations involving at least the governments of all of the provinces and the Government of Canada.