CdnFox Posted March 14 Author Report Posted March 14 18 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: For PM I would prefer career politicians or at least people with a long time in politics. Coupled with my ageism, that would mean 40-something candidates for the top job with at least ten years in parliament which doesn’t give much time for a career outside politics. On those criteria, at least, PP would be preferable. Needless to say I’ve left some wiggle room. Trump upends all other considerations. The only question that matters this year: who is best placed to manage this mortal threat to our country? It's true, but it comes back to the same thing. Politicians, not businessmen know how to negotiate this kind of a situation and how to develop alliances to deal with it. Politicians, not businessman, our focused on the country and not their own personal profit or gain by and large. Trump is a businessman. How's that working out as a leader? The tariffs doing their job are they? Reducing costs, raising profitability and GDP? Justin was the school teacher. How did that work out for us? Harper was a career politician. He was widely hailed as having the absolute best response to you and recovery from the great recession and he turned over a balanced budget despite the fact that he never cut health care or any of the core services. We have to get serious and stop screwing around. The liberals always look for some white night leader who will swoop in on popularity and grab power and then things go to hell. We cannot afford to do this again. We need a strong conservative government led by a career politician who knows the job, understands the country, has one loyalty and not three, and isn't looking forward to being the director of a bunch of Charities that he funnels money into from the Canadian government when he retires. If you love the country, there's really only one answer at the moment. 1 Quote
-TSS- Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 Is he even a member of Canadian parliament? Doesn't it kind of tell you something about the Liberal-party that they don't even themselves consider any of their active politicians qualified to lead the party and the country? 1 Quote
Dougie93 Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 8 minutes ago, -TSS- said: Is he even a member of Canadian parliament? Doesn't it kind of tell you something about the Liberal-party that they don't even themselves consider any of their active politicians qualified to lead the party and the country? the Liberals are the Natural Governing Party in Canada, it was really only Justin Trudeau whom discredited them, Quote
Army Guy Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 3 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Carney’s cabinet is leaner, 24 versus 39, and arguably meaner or at least more right-wing. As Stephen Maher put it: https://www.thestar.com/opinion/contributors/this-is-the-signal-mark-carney-is-sending-with-his-cabinet-picks/article_952ed974-00f6-11f0-aff4-7f7c7a59cb7b.html He has chosen 3 new people, other than that it is the same cabinet as justin had with exception of a few shuffles.... you mention Blair, and the military files why is it important they have blair, are the liberals planning anything we don't know... Will this government seek new markets, because sparking up fossil fuels resources are not in Carneys wheel house nor do they fit with his new carbon pricing plan...getting rid of Guilbeault is perhaps his best move to date... His first move is a trip to Europe....why and other than Moe why has there been radio silence about china tariffs ? Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Barquentine Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 2 hours ago, CdnFox said: It will already take decades to recover from the damage that's been done there may be no recovery by the time Kearney and his crew get finished pillaging the country Usually you're pretty smart but when you come up with ludicrous crap like this, you can't be taken seriously. it's disappointing. Quote
CdnFox Posted March 15 Author Report Posted March 15 Just now, Barquentine said: Usually you're pretty smart but when you come up with ludicrous crap like this, you can't be taken seriously. it's disappointing. LOL don't hate me because you don't like the message The first part is an opinion it's demonstrable. It will take decades to recover from the damage that's been done by the liberals over the last 10 years and I can go into extreme and excruciating detail about that. So I assume it's the second part that you take umbrage with. However the evidence is pretty strong there as well. Remember that you know in carney i've been working together for the last 4 years or more and that Carney has strong ties to Trudeau and this government. When you look at what Trudeau has done with funneling money into non-governmental organizations the pattern is exceptionally clear. Government spending on third-party consultants has shot through the roof and is it at all time high worth billions. Many of them are single sourced and friendly with the liberals. And we all know how this works, when Justin Trudeau leaves parliament and politics these people will come forward and kindly offer him a job to sit on their board of directors doing nothing and making a healthy salary anyway as payback. Mark carney sat on a large number of similar boards. Basically they get paid for any favors they've done in the past and in some cases because of their contacts from their time working with government or non-government organizations or quangos as they're known in europe. Make no mistake. Kearney will be very rich from being prime minister if he is allowed to win a charm in office And I see no evidence in the slightest that he gives a flying F about Canada. So just like Justin he's going to focus on doing things that win him favor and money when he's outside of politics and not worry about the consequences to the people that live here I'm sorry if that hurts your feelings but that is the way it is. You need to grow up fast and look at how people make money from government. Nobody is without fault but it is painfully obvious that carney is not here for Canada Quote
WestCanMan Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 On 3/12/2025 at 8:47 PM, CdnFox said: So the liberals posted this picture the other day of Mark Carney, supposedly looking like a real canadian in an oilers jersey drinking a beer. An American beer. held just under an ad for a similar American beer. In the middle of a trade war. These people have zero idea what it means to be Canadian. They're going to run a horrible campaign Cringeworthy. I hope the Oilers sweep the leafs in the SCF lol. That way, in all of Ontario, he'll only win a few seats around Ottawa, and Albertans won't vote for him anyways. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
-TSS- Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 If the Liberals lose the election do you think he will exit politics the next day? I mean he entered politics fast and he would exit politics also fast. Quote
CdnFox Posted March 15 Author Report Posted March 15 1 hour ago, -TSS- said: If the Liberals lose the election do you think he will exit politics the next day? I mean he entered politics fast and he would exit politics also fast. Well he didn't enter politics as fast as you think. He's been deeply connected with the liberal party for some time and actually was going to run in 2012 till they talked him out of it in favor of Justin Trudeau. In many respects the coronation they just gave him was payback for that To a degree it depends on whether or not he loses both the election and or his seat. If he loses the election I don't think there's any doubt that he'll step down as leader, if he loses the election and his seat I think that's his last day as a elected politician. Just like Michael ignatief in many ways he's just visiting If he wins his seat he might just resign his leader and then hang around. An MP technically doesn't even really need to show up in parliament. And he only needs to win two terms to get his pension, a term and a half really. That's not very much money for him but he might just decide to stick it around because why not? An extra 50 grand a year or so doesn't hurt. But for him the real money is elsewhere, so I suspect there's a pretty good chance that even if he wins his seat he'll finish out that term doing virtually nothing and then go away. The pocket the regular pay and be looking to work on the side as it is Quote
Barquentine Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 12 hours ago, CdnFox said: The first part is an opinion it's demonstrable If the corrupt Canada-hating Pcs win the next election, it will be our last. PeePee will immediately bow down to Trump and beg him to have mercy on us and make us the 51St. There will be no more Canada, period! Just showing you how ridiculous your apocalyptic warnings are. If PeePee wins, we'll be ok. If Carney wins, we'll be ok. And oh yeah, you brag about being wealthy and things are so good for you, so just how horrible were the last ten years under the Liberals? Are you better off than you were ten years ago? I'm not very wealthy but I'm better off now. 1 Quote
Legato Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 11 minutes ago, Barquentine said: If the corrupt Canada-hating Pcs win the next election, it will be our last. PeePee will immediately bow down to Trump and beg him to have mercy on us and make us the 51St. There will be no more Canada, period! Just showing you how ridiculous your apocalyptic warnings are. If PeePee wins, we'll be ok. If Carney wins, we'll be ok. And oh yeah, you brag about being wealthy and things are so good for you, so just how horrible were the last ten years under the Liberals? Are you better off than you were ten years ago? I'm not very wealthy but I'm better off now. Sounds like you have not had your coffee yet. When you have, please give us normal folk some examples of the corruption and hate you speak of. Quote
Barquentine Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 4 minutes ago, Legato said: please give us normal folk some examples of the corruption and hate you speak of. You can't read? My satire went over your head! 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 On 3/13/2025 at 2:49 PM, TreeBeard said: The topic of the election is going to be Trump, like it or not. Poilievre has been a parrot of everything Trump up to recently. Even now, he goes on about how shitty Canada is and about Trudeau who, newsflash, is gone. He’s running a losing campaign. oh the irony…. a man who has never held a private sector job…. a career politician since his 20s is the manly man. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5421779/Justin-Trudeau-ridiculed-Indians-fake-outfits.html LOL... Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
-TSS- Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 These days people have gone so insane that when they say crazy things you can't be sure are they being serious or is it some sarcasm. Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 Just saw the ‘bring it home’ ad for Poilievre. That’s the first positive Tory ad I can recall seeing - no mention of the Liberals. He’ll need an awful lot more of that. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted March 15 Author Report Posted March 15 33 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Just saw the ‘bring it home’ ad for Poilievre. That’s the first positive Tory ad I can recall seeing - no mention of the Liberals. He’ll need an awful lot more of that. Not an awful lot more. Depressingly, despite the fact that almost universally voters say they don't like negative ads the results are overwhelming that they work best. I expect we'll see some more of that for sure but sadly you don't win elections in Canada by being positive alone Quote
-TSS- Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 Do you have by-elections in Canada? I mean if a seat becomes vacant in the middle of a parliamentary-term there's an extra-election to fill it. Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 30 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Not an awful lot more. Depressingly, despite the fact that almost universally voters say they don't like negative ads the results are overwhelming that they work best. I expect we'll see some more of that for sure but sadly you don't win elections in Canada by being positive alone I think this particular election requires a different message from Poilievre. As usual there are opponents but there is also a foreign enemy looming far larger. The big question this time: who is the best leader to combat Trumpism? 1 Quote
TreeBeard Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 20 hours ago, -TSS- said: Is he even a member of Canadian parliament? Doesn't it kind of tell you something about the Liberal-party that they don't even themselves consider any of their active politicians qualified to lead the party and the country? Not really, no. Lots of people not in parliament run for leadership of parties in Canada. 14 minutes ago, -TSS- said: Do you have by-elections in Canada? I mean if a seat becomes vacant in the middle of a parliamentary-term there's an extra-election to fill it. Yea, of course we do. So what? Quote
CdnFox Posted March 15 Author Report Posted March 15 (edited) 1 hour ago, SpankyMcFarland said: I think this particular election requires a different message from Poilievre. As usual there are opponents but there is also a foreign enemy looming far larger. The big question this time: who is the best leader to combat Trumpism? Polls indicate that it's a lot deeper than that. Trump didn't magically change the fact that people can't really afford housing. Trump didn't change the prices of the grocery stores. And those still are issues that are front and center and even more important than trump when they poll people. In short, it's the economy stupid. And the problem for Kearney is that he just announced a cabinet that is 84% filled with the exact same people who were there in the previous cabinet under Trudeau. He has basically signaled nothing has changed. He himself was an advisor for 4 years So you can still go after the liberal track record and the Trudeau track record successfully against Carney. and the fact people can't live or eat is still going to be front and center in their minds. Obviously you still have to paint a picture and tell a story that people can believe it if you're going to get them to switch but I think carney is still going to have to run on the liberal track record and that's going to be negative Edited March 15 by CdnFox Quote
Gaétan Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 Mark Carney demonstrated his true nature as an unjust and evil individual by condemning Hamas during the French debate while being careful not to do the same to the Israeli army which has done a thousand times worse Quote
Army Guy Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 9 hours ago, Barquentine said: If the corrupt Canada-hating Pcs win the next election, it will be our last. PeePee will immediately bow down to Trump and beg him to have mercy on us and make us the 51St. There will be no more Canada, period! Just showing you how ridiculous your apocalyptic warnings are. If PeePee wins, we'll be ok. If Carney wins, we'll be ok. And oh yeah, you brag about being wealthy and things are so good for you, so just how horrible were the last ten years under the Liberals? Are you better off than you were ten years ago? I'm not very wealthy but I'm better off now. How do you know if you could have been even more wealthier with a different leader in charge....How do you feel with all the scandals, minsters taking public money for their own companies, how about Randy, the guy that does not even know his ethic background and said he was indigenous to benefit his company getting government contracts, other ministers giveing friends contracts, i mean the list goes on...Do this people have the moral values you expect in our government or are you ok with this type of behavior....So if thats what you base your government success on if your wealthier, it sets a pretty low bar, maybe you can give us a list of their actions that have bettered the country....I'll give the first one, the legalized pot, but screwed up its implementation... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
CITIZEN_2015 Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 I was the one who six months ago said honeymoon for conservatives will be over bt election date which I accurately predicted to be in April. Mark Carney will succeed and navigates Canada through very stormy waters unique in the history of this country. He will be elected as Prime Minister end of April or in early May. He can only form a minority government. There will be a tariff war between Canada and US lasting about 2 years. Canada will go into mild recession in the second half of 2025 and will come out of it in early 2026 with slow growth accelerating in 2027. Jobless rate hits 8% by the end of 2025 while inflation rises to 6% (stagnation). jobless rate back to 6% and inflation back to 2% by 2027. US removes tariffs in 2027 and economy booms in 2027 and thereafter. Mark Carney will call an election again in 2027 and wins a majority. Quote
Barquentine Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 12 hours ago, Army Guy said: How do you know if you could have been even more wealthier with a different leader in charge I can't know that. But I can know the reality that I stated. 13 hours ago, Army Guy said: So if thats what you base your government success on if your wealthier That's what gets gov'ts elected and what keeps them in power. If you feel you're worse off, vote 'em out. Quote
Army Guy Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 9 hours ago, Barquentine said: I can't know that. But I can know the reality that I stated. That's what gets gov'ts elected and what keeps them in power. If you feel you're worse off, vote 'em out. Has there ever been a Canadian government in which your wealth has shrunk....our standard of living has increased ever since the inception of Canada....those that have lost money say in 2008 have made all of that back...just saying it is not a good metric...I see your going to stay silent on how the country benefited from the liberal government or comment of the corruption that we know off. Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
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