Aristides Posted March 4 Report Posted March 4 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Army Guy said: You can credit trump if you like, most credit a new face "other than Justins", and a new direction sort of a 180 degrees form Justins vision...... which traditional new faces enjoy a bump in the polls...it might be a bit of both.... I'm not talking about the relative merits of the parties or candidates, it's just a non partisan observation that Trump is the gift that keeps on giving for the Liberal party. Putting the campaign rhetoric aside, I don't believe either PP or Carney are the ogres that their opposition makes out them to be. And that is why for me, the campaign and debates are going to be very important because I truly am undecided and whoever gets my vote will have to earn it. Edited March 4 by Aristides 1 Quote
Army Guy Posted March 4 Report Posted March 4 10 minutes ago, Aristides said: I'm not talking about the relative merits of the parties or candidates, it's just a non partisan observation that Trump is the gift that keeps on giving for the Liberal party. Putting the campaign rhetoric aside, I don't believe either PP or Carney are the ogres that their opposition makes out them to be. And that is why for me, the campaign and debates are going to be very important because I truly am undecided and whoever gets my vote will have to earn it. I did say it could be a combination of the two, even liberals do not like justin and did not have a place to park their vote....and a new face is something to rally around...it happens all the time when a new face gets a bump in the polls.... I personally think carney is another Justin , he now has outright lied many times in his campaign to be party leader...for me thats a huge red flag....liberal voters do not seem bother by it...judging by the support they gave justin... I agree 100 % the campaign and debates are very very important, i did not vote in the last election because of the flip flopping that went on with the conservatives.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
TreeBeard Posted March 4 Author Report Posted March 4 44 minutes ago, Army Guy said: And i said how is their a connection between trump's and pp policies or campaign ...they are not even close to the same, not because the the trumps connection is a deaths' kiss, but rather PP and trumps policies are not even on the same vision plane.... How are they different? However, even if the policies are different, don’t you think it’s the rhetoric that is the issue for most Canadians? Clearly are looking for a way not to vote for PP, for some reason. 1 Quote
eyeball Posted March 4 Report Posted March 4 30 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Thats about right.... Thats how politics work, they feed of the citizens then spew their message based on that....have you not noticed the liberal flip flop on carbon pricing... That flip was simply to deflate the little axe the tax rubber dinghy PP was floating around in. 32 minutes ago, Army Guy said: I get it your more comfortable with Carney, and jagmeet who have lied to you on many occasions....they have the right attitudes they lie, cheat, misuse tax dollars , did i say lie, dishonest, have sh!tty moral s or values....i can see why attitude would win over those traits. Actually I wish Doug Ford was PM. I like his fùck you attitude towards America and I'm also thrilled with Premier Eby's approach. Rustad is an utter loon and a dyed in the wool MAGA chud who would have been a disaster for BC. I'm like most Canadian voters, I vote against what I don't want federally because voting for what I do want is so pointless. In any case, neither the Liberals or the Conservatives ever come close to winning in my riding so my choice is easy. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Army Guy Posted March 4 Report Posted March 4 1 minute ago, TreeBeard said: How are they different? However, even if the policies are different, don’t you think it’s the rhetoric that is the issue for most Canadians? Clearly are looking for a way not to vote for PP, for some reason. Thats the question i asked you....you can't answer a question with a question....how is PP policies and direction the same as trumps ? or is that all a liberal plot to discredit PP... Ahh its got nothing to do with policies or direction or who would be the best person to run the country.......its all about the rhetoric...cause that makes a good leader and that defines the whole process.......I've heard the same rhetoric for all sides of the political spectrum.... Sparks fly from PP a$$ , or he shoots lightning bolts from his eyes.....does it bother you where it comes from...left right, in fact i've heard it in almost every election campaign in our history....let me ask you how do you feel about candidate's out right lying to you... is that a factor or just rhetoric... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted March 4 Report Posted March 4 5 minutes ago, eyeball said: That flip was simply to deflate the little axe the tax rubber dinghy PP was floating around in. Actually I wish Doug Ford was PM. I like his fùck you attitude towards America and I'm also thrilled with Premier Eby's approach. Rustad is an utter loon and a dyed in the wool MAGA chud who would have been a disaster for BC. I'm like most Canadian voters, I vote against what I don't want federally because voting for what I do want is so pointless. In any case, neither the Liberals or the Conservatives ever come close to winning in my riding so my choice is easy. That flip flop was simply changing the course of climate change it means nothing for them...if it is the best way to fight climate change why are they giving it up....becasue it was never about climate change it was about getting votes... Eby is just like the liberals flip flopping for votes...he is trash... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
PIK Posted March 4 Report Posted March 4 When it comes time to scrap, a WEF Davos elite banker is not the guy you want leading the charge. But a consistent scrappy leader like PP and the conservative party. And it looks like many of the Trudeau clowns will be carneys clowns. Canadian haven't even started paying attention yet, and the cons have boots on the ground and a ton of money ready to go. 1 Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
eyeball Posted March 4 Report Posted March 4 31 minutes ago, Army Guy said: That flip flop was simply changing the course of climate change it means nothing for them...if it is the best way to fight climate change why are they giving it up....becasue it was never about climate change it was about getting votes... Karina Gould didn't give it up. 32 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Eby is just like the liberals flip flopping for votes...he is trash... He's not a right winger, that matters more than anything else to me. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted March 4 Report Posted March 4 12 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Not so lengthy anymore. CPC 38& Lib 35% NDP 14% https://338canada.com/20250222-leg.htm Oh i suspect it is in actuality. We'll see. 1 hour ago, eyeball said: He's not a right winger, that matters more than anything else to me. We know. More than climate change which you pretend to care about but don't. More than accountability or honesty in government which you also pretend to care about but don't. More than the future of Canada and more than the success the average Canadian person And what does that say about you? 1 1 Quote
PIK Posted March 4 Report Posted March 4 Canadians will start paying attention soon, usually how it works. And they'll realize that changing leaders, changes nothing. Going to have someone that's been advising Trudeau all these yrs, in charge over a bunch of the same clowns, that Trudeau had? Really? Canadians aren't that dumb. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
CdnFox Posted March 4 Report Posted March 4 5 hours ago, PIK said: Canadians will start paying attention soon, usually how it works. And they'll realize that changing leaders, changes nothing. Going to have someone that's been advising Trudeau all these yrs, in charge over a bunch of the same clowns, that Trudeau had? Really? Canadians aren't that dumb. He's already spent the entire week explaining his previous comments and dealing with his lies he's been caught on. Now he got caught on Mike insisting that canada is the largest supplier of semiconductors to the united states and his campaign is having to walk that back and try and explain it There's an old saying in politics, if you were explaining something you are losing. If you have to begin with "What i meant was..." You've got a problem. And the leadership race is going to be as friendly as it gets for him and he's already screwing it up. The shine will come off of him in a heartbeat in a campaign. and because people tend to hate someone that they thought was going to be there hero and disappointed them what you would like to see is the liberals crashing even further in the polls and nobody on the left of the spectrum will even want to go out and vote. You will see a result very similar to the Ontario elections where people were just fed up with the liberals and NDP Quote
Gaétan Posted March 4 Report Posted March 4 We have seen that journalists and political commentators have proceeded to embellish Marc Carney without him even saying a word, and he has risen in popularity to such an extent that the Liberals have even overtaken the Conservatives, who had been ahead in the polls by more than 15 points over the other parties for several months. So we have proof that the results of elections or polls are simply the result of the manipulation of the population by the media, have no value and are nothing but fraud. Quote
TreeBeard Posted March 4 Author Report Posted March 4 1 hour ago, Gaétan said: …results of elections or polls are simply the result of the manipulation of the population by the media, have no value and are nothing but fraud. If the Cons lose because people don’t like their ideas, or due to a media conspiracy, the point is that the Cons still lose. So what can they do to turn it around? Quote
Legato Posted March 4 Report Posted March 4 7 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: If the Cons lose because people don’t like their ideas, or due to a media conspiracy, the point is that the Cons still lose. So what can they do to turn it around? Ignore the polls. 2 Quote
TreeBeard Posted March 4 Author Report Posted March 4 1 minute ago, Legato said: Ignore the polls. So you think it’s a big conspiracy that the Libs are closing the gap to the Cons? Quote
Legato Posted March 4 Report Posted March 4 16 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: So you think it’s a big conspiracy that the Libs are closing the gap to the Cons? How does "ignore the polls" translate into "big conspiracy"? Your thoughts are not my thoughts. Quote
TreeBeard Posted March 4 Author Report Posted March 4 7 minutes ago, Legato said: How does "ignore the polls" translate into "big conspiracy"? Your thoughts are not my thoughts. Im trying to figure out your thinking. Either the polls are fake, in which case it doesn’t hurt to ignore them. Or the polls are real but you think everything is going fine for the Cons despite the nosedive. Quote
Legato Posted March 4 Report Posted March 4 45 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: Im trying to figure out your thinking. Either the polls are fake, in which case it doesn’t hurt to ignore them. Or the polls are real but you think everything is going fine for the Cons despite the nosedive. Not really, you are trying to apply your thinking. Not the same thing. 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted March 4 Report Posted March 4 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2025/03/03/british-nuclear-weapons-canada-trump-chrystia-freeland/ British nuclear weapons can protect Canada against Trump, says Trudeau party candidate Thanks, CBC, for propping up these f'ing ret4rds. And thanks to all the ret4rds who keep voting for them. 1 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
eyeball Posted March 4 Report Posted March 4 19 hours ago, CdnFox said: Oh i suspect it is in actuality. We'll see. We know. More than climate change which you pretend to care about but don't. More than accountability or honesty in government which you also pretend to care about but don't. More than the future of Canada and more than the success the average Canadian person And what does that say about you? The complete opposite when you're saying it. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
taxme Posted March 4 Report Posted March 4 On 3/1/2025 at 5:42 PM, Barquentine said: You've met me? Cause if so, you weren't memorable. It has been a great honor for me that i have never met you at all. But besides that, just from reading your posts has told me that you are a real sad pathetic left wing liberal buffoon. I just cannot help myself. I just have to tell you the truth. Accept it and move on. 🤪 Quote
taxme Posted March 4 Report Posted March 4 On 3/1/2025 at 5:24 PM, cougar said: Below is my voting hat. Do you want one in black or blue? I want one that says Make America Great Again, and if possible, a hat that says on it Make Canada Great Again, and let's get rid of liberalism. Black hat with white letters written on it will be fine. Works for me! 😇 Quote
taxme Posted March 4 Report Posted March 4 On 3/1/2025 at 8:08 PM, SpankyMcFarland said: Poilievre has to stand up to Trump. Really stand up the way he does to everybody domestically. The guy is threatening to take our country away and for that he deserves at least caustic mockery. Otherwise, can we trust a PM Poilievre to really stand up to the PPC wing of his own party? I believe that PP may be a closet Trump supporter. PP being a conservative, he has to want to go along with the same policies that Trump is implementing in America. PP needs to end woke, massive third world invasion, multiculturalism and diversity, gender, pronoun and trans nonsense and stupidity. All conservative common sense and logic moves. 🤗 Quote
PIK Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 2 hours ago, TreeBeard said: Im trying to figure out your thinking. Either the polls are fake, in which case it doesn’t hurt to ignore them. Or the polls are real but you think everything is going fine for the Cons despite the nosedive. Even pollster have said polls are very soft. New leader always gets the bump. But carney has done nothing but stumble, and in hiding. Wait till the election, and we will see how the Banker stands up. 1 Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
eyeball Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 1 minute ago, PIK said: Even pollster have said polls are very soft. New leader always gets the bump. But carney has done nothing but stumble, and in hiding. Wait till the election, and we will see how the Banker stands up. I watched Poilievre responding to Trump's tariffs and accusing him of stabbing Canada in the back and thought good on him. But less than a half a minute later he's bleating away about killing the carbon tax and doing everything else everyone is already talking about. Building pipelines, inter-provincial trade and yes axing the tax. These will be old news before he's even elected he's so far behind the curve. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
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