5 Traitors Named

[Queenmandy85]

Then, be patient. We will have a Socred government led by Mr. Poilievre in 11 months and it will be his task to deal with the economic chaos that will hit us from the Trump administration. Let us wish him luck. 

 

Edited October 30, 2024 by Queenmandy85

[Dougie93]

19 hours ago, Army Guy said:

the real question is CSIS willing to reveal their sources that prove everything. 

intelligence is by definition not evidence and so cannot be presented as proof of anything, specifically in court

use of intelligence to mount a criminal case is technically unlawful, otherwise known as "parallel construction"

furthermore, Five Eyes ( FVEY ) intelligence agencies

are both duty bound and operationally constrained to protect their sources & methods

[Dougie93]

20 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

I tend to be skeptical about anything produced by CSIS or any other intelligence agency. I am not saying the allegations are without merit, just that CSIS, Mi6, CIA, GRU etc have a lousy track  record going back to before the execution of Margarite Gertrude Zelle.

also bear in mind, that unlike Mata Hari in 1917

under Canadian constitutional law now,

the moment any intelligence is invoked against these persons

they cannot be convicted of any offence therein related to said intelligence

since it would all be inadmissible in court on the spot

as it is unlawful to charge anyone on the basis of clandestine intelligence gathering

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Then, be patient. We will have a Socred government led by Mr. Poilievre in 11 months and it will be his task to deal with the economic chaos that will hit us from the Trump administration. Let us wish him luck. 

 

Oh look, the lefty who already spent so much time lying in this thread is pretending that there is such a thing as a socred party out there again because misinformation and dishonesty is kind of your thing isn't it. What up dishonest piece of shit you are

[August1991]

23 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Every government official from China should be banned from the country.

 

Disagree. Strongly.

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We now live in a multi-polar world.

And BTW, we Canadians are good at this.

[Moonlight Graham]

On 10/31/2024 at 12:13 AM, August1991 said:

Disagree. Strongly.

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We now live in a multi-polar world.

And BTW, we Canadians are good at this.

Taking it in the rear-end?

Canadians have so often been bottom-b*tches and the say "sorry" after getting slapped around, and then brag about being "nice".  Yeah it's easy to be called "nice" when everyone pushed you around.  Doesn't mean its good though.

Edited November 1, 2024 by Moonlight Graham

[taxme]

On 10/29/2024 at 8:40 PM, Queenmandy85 said:

I don't think you do. My MP is Kevin Waugh. I may not like Mr. Poilievre, but Kevin is an excellent MP. I will likely vote for him.

So, now we both know who I will vote for...unless I change my mind. 11 months is a long time in politics. 😎

Trudeau has been a decent Prime Minister. Inspite of your unfortunate rhetoric, he got us through covid with fewer fatalities than many western countries, he managed to get a decent result in NAFTA and in the post pandemic economic turmoil, our inflation was lower and shorter than many western countries, including the Mother Country.

Imagine you are sitting down with the Prime Minister and you have the opportunity to point out all the mistakes he is making. His response, "If you know so much, why am I Prime Minister and you are not."

In 11 months, my meeting with Prime Minister Poilievre will be the same. 

Cheers.

The dictator in Ottawa has never held a decent thought yet. The imbecile never got us thru covid. It was the people of Canada that had to get thru covid thanks to the imbeciles excessive mandates of taking away every right and freedom that we had during covid. There was no good reason as to why the country had to be shut down like it was by that fool. 

The Covid big pharma scamdemic was one of the biggest hoaxes ever played on mankind. Millions of people suffered and many many people died under covid restrictions. The restrictions were worse than the so called covid lies and hoax.

The imbecile was forced by Trump to take the new NAFTA agreement or leave NAFTA. The fool never got a decent result in his favor with NAFTA. 

If i were the PM of Canada today, i would have the fool arrested and charged with crimes against Canadians and crimes against humanity. What he did to Canadians during covid was to make our lives as miserable as hell. 

This same Marxist dictator was able to shut down many truckers and trucker supporters bank accounts and credit cards and many people had to scarmble around to find some money somewhere to survive. Get lost with your decent nonsense about Trudeau. 

Hopefully soon, we can get Poiiievre as the next PM of Canada and finally get rid of this traitor to Canada once and for all. I ca guarantee you that if the dictator steals the next election, this forum will be gone. Believe it or not. 

Cheers! 

[Queenmandy85]

15 minutes ago, taxme said:

Cheers! 

And cheers to you as well. Have a good weekend.

[taxme]

8 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

And cheers to you as well. Have a good weekend.

Another leftist liberal that runs away from a question asked of them. Liberals like you do a lot of talking but can never back up what you preach. The dictator in Ottawa is a Marxist. Prove me wrong, lefty? 😁

[herbie]

1 hour ago, taxme said:

The dictator in Ottawa is a Marxist. Prove me wrong

Impossible to prove to a rightwing dupe that accuses a minority PM of being a dictator all the while wanting an actual dictator to rule.
One that years later clings to anti-vax BS that Trudeau mandated shots when they never even got one. That not being able to come from a country where you weren't vaxxed that you couldn't even get into without them in the first place was a 'loss of freedom'.
So swallowed by rightwing dogma he'd accuse a Trudeau of being a traitor to Canada with a straight face.

A butt stubborn fascist ignoroid wrong on so many levels.

[August1991]

15 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

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Canadians have so often been bottom....

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I strongly disagree.

We Canadians get along. We have a bilingual federal State with no official State culture.

We have created a structure of peace.

[August1991]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

Impossible to prove to a rightwing dupe that accuses a minority PM of being a dictator all the while wanting an actual dictator to rule.

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Some people want to control things, people. Politicians want power, control.

Our federal PM is a dictator.

Fortunately, we live in a federal State. And we now have a Charter.

[Legato]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

Impossible to prove to a rightwing dupe that accuses a minority PM of being a dictator all the while wanting an actual dictator to rule.
One that years later clings to anti-vax BS that Trudeau mandated shots when they never even got one. That not being able to come from a country where you weren't vaxxed that you couldn't even get into without them in the first place was a 'loss of freedom'.
So swallowed by rightwing dogma he'd accuse a Trudeau of being a traitor to Canada with a straight face.

A butt stubborn fascist ignoroid wrong on so many levels.

Ha yes the minority PM propped up by the giant Singhing dupe walking hand in hand through traitors gate. All sang with a straight face.

Merrily merrily we go along the piper playing our tune.

[Queenmandy85]

6 hours ago, taxme said:

If i were the PM of Canada today, i would have the fool arrested and charged with crimes against Canadians and crimes against humanity.

That would be just as wrong as the Prime Minister asking for a deferred prosecution for SNC Lav. You would be interferring in the Justice system.

 

5 hours ago, taxme said:

Another leftist liberal that runs away from a question asked of them. Liberals like you do a lot of talking but can never back up what you preach. The dictator in Ottawa is a Marxist. Prove me wrong, lefty?

That's easy. Justin Trudeau is a card carrying member of the Liberal Party of Canada.  Anna Di Carlo is the leader of the Communist Party of Canada (Marxist-Leninist). Elizabeth Rowley is leader of the Communist Party of Canada. If memory serves, the both Communist Parties combined  received les than 10,000 votes in the last Federal election. Now, since it is a secret ballot, there is no way to know for certain that Prime Minister Trudeau did not vote for Garnet Colly running under the banner of the Communist Party of Canada (Marxist-Leninist, (the other Communist Party did not run a candidate in Papineau) you are only speculating that the Prime Minister voted against himself. You are really stretching credulity to believe Prime Minister Trudeau is a marxist. However, when you say, "The Covid big pharma scamdemic was one of the biggest hoaxes ever played on mankind," when over a million Americans and 50,000 Canadians died from Covid, you are not inspiring confidence in your version of events.

But, on the other hand, your posts are always interesting. Thank you.

Edited November 2, 2024 by Queenmandy85
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[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

That would be just as wrong as the Prime Minister asking for a deferred prosecution for SNC Lav. You would be interferring in the Justice system.

So you're saying as a liberal you would approve of that action then. I mean you've come right out and said that Justin is a good leader and been a good prime minister so you must approve of his actions like that.

Here's the problem. When you allow scumbags to get away with that kind of thing and liberal supporters put him back into power afterwards, it is only a matter of time until the other parties supporters ask the valid question why the hell are we following the rules if they don't.

I mean there's no penalty for it. So I say full steam ahead and lock the bastard up. It's the world that you have brought into existence and accepted as being the way you would like it and it's far too late for you to complain about it now or appeal to our sensibilities when you won't stop it in your own party

[Moonlight Graham]

9 hours ago, August1991 said:

I strongly disagree.

We Canadians get along. We have a bilingual federal State with no official State culture.

We have created a structure of peace.

Most Quebec schools don't even sing the Canadian national anthem or fly the Canadian flag.  Polls show a Quebec separatist party may be the official opposition after next election.  Quebec hasn't even signed our constitution LOL

[August1991]

32 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Most Quebec schools don't even sing the Canadian national anthem or fly the Canadian flag.  Polls show a Quebec separatist party may be the official opposition after next election.  Quebec hasn't even signed our constitution LOL

And yet, French Canadians get along with English Canadians - Catholics with Protestants.

Albertans get along with Quebecers.

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I reckon that Poilievre will get elected on this point alone: he makes us get along.

[Queenmandy85]

12 hours ago, CdnFox said:

So you're saying as a liberal you would approve of that action then. I mean you've come right out and said that Justin is a good leader and been a good prime minister so you must approve of his actions like that.

You are incorrect on both counts. 

A. I am not a Liberal. If there were a Conservative Party, I would vote Conservative, if the candidate was a good one. Since MacKay stabbed the Conservative Party in the back and sold out to the Reform Party, I have no party. I did join the CPC some months ago to support Jean Charest, but Mr. Poilievre is too immature and too estranged with truth and reality for me to support him. So, I will vote for a local candidate who happens to be an excellent MP. It is unfortunate that he is CPC, but life is full of difficult choices. 

B. I strongly disapproved of the Prime Minister's request to ask the Crown Prosecutor for a deferred prosecution for SNC Lav. I lost a lot of respect for him over that and even worse, the fallout demonstrated that he has a problem working with women. His claim to be a feminist has proven to be a Poilievre style one liner.

I don't think Mr. Poilievre has thought through his options. Firstly, he should be savouring his role as Leader of His Majesty's Loyal Opposition. It is the best job in Parliament.

Secondly, his fetish to "axe the tax" is painting him into a corner. He will have to come up with an alternative and even Scott Moe says that when his Government looked at the alternatives, they were all more expensive and less efficient than the carbon tax. 

Thirdly, he will be tasked with navigating Canada's future against the President Trump administration, with its tariffs and runaway inflation. The economic chaos the Americans will inflict on us will make the previous difficulties pale to insignificance.

Finally, ( returning to the purpose of this thread) when he is appointed Prime Minister, he will have to make a dreaded choice about his own security clearance. He is terrified of something in his closet and it will come out. The only question is, what is it?

He is sitting pretty right now. He is popular and at his peak. A year from now, he will be Prime Minister and it will be a rapid fall from favour. He will lose the following election because it will be a minority situation and no other party will be willing to hold their nose and give him the confidence of the house.

Edited November 2, 2024 by Queenmandy85

[Queenmandy85]

It is ironic. Mr. Poilievre will be appointer Prime Minister in 10 months with over 200 MP's supporting him in the HofC. If we had proportional representation, he would never become PM. The CPC stands at 42% to 43% and that has not changed in over a year. Under PR, that trnslates into 142 seats. Since all of the other parties have voted non-confidence in Mr. Poilievre, it is clear none of them would support his appointment to the office of PM.

[CdnFox]

53 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

You are incorrect on both counts. 

Well that would make you a hypocrite then wouldn't it

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A. I am not a Liberal. If there were a Conservative Party, I would vote Conservative, if the candidate was a good one.

You are a liberal, you just define liberal as being conservative when it isn't. There is a perfectly serviceable Conservative party currently or the duly elected leader who is just fine. But you really want there's something closer to John kraschan's liberals rather than Trudeau's far left liberals but I'm afraid it's all liberals.

And you have already stated that you feel that Justin Trudeau was a good prime minister. If that's your example of a good prime minister then you are definitely not a conservative. I understand that right now because the liberals have absolutely led the country to an unmitigated disaster and that the current liberal prime minister is without a doubt the worst prime minister this country has ever seen but many liberals are trying to distance themselves from today's woke liberals. And some pretend that The kind of liberal-ism that they like is actually conservatism. And it isn't.

It is somewhat childish to say that you don't like Poilievre because he's not savoring the opposition role which appears to be your argument. If that were true then the liberals would always aspire to be the opposition as well and would be disappointed when they want elections. It's just a dumb thing to say.

It is very clear that Poilievre has thought through all of the options. There's no doubt he says things that people want to hear because that's what all politicians do. No politician ever walked around saying things people didn't want to hear. But he's very clearly got a plan. He understands the underlying issues vastly better than any of the liberals and can see what has to happen for things to change. It often reveals itself in little ways and small statements right now because of course he's not going to put his entire plan on the table before the election. But it's definitely there. He's dancing immigration shows he understands the problems there. His comments about tax exemptions for certain developments shows that he understands the challenges of how to motivate and correct the shortage of housing without creating excessive housing inflation etc etc.

He is comfortably the best choice for dealing with trump. Justin blew that day one and is a complete and utter hopeless case. Poilievre will do fine.

Finally you demonstrate your complete lack of knowledge understanding and sense of history. He has already held security clearance in the past. And he won't have to make any choices about security clearance when he becomes prime minister, he automatically has to do it.

The difference is when he becomes prime minister he absolutely can make the decision to release information that Justin is currently withholding. He also can absolutely choose to take action to correct the problems which Justin isn't doing. There is no problem in his mind or anyone else's with him having clearance as the Prime Minister. The reason he doesn't want it right now is because if he gets it and reads that document then he can no longer demand that the Prime Minister take action or answer questions. That doesn't apply if he actually is the prime minister.

 

You just play that kind of level of dishonesty and yet you're going to tell us you're not a liberal? You're practically the definition.

No wonder you're so out of touch that you think the social credit is still around.

[Queenmandy85]

I think we have identified the problem. You are wrong on most things except immigration. 

Conservatives are monarchists and Grits are more inclined to republicanism.

 

Edited November 2, 2024 by Queenmandy85

[WestCanMan]

On 10/28/2024 at 7:58 PM, Goddess said:

Sorry, I can't find a CBC article.  It appears they did not attend the press conference.

Just Google: 

• "Traitors, shmaitors. If a guy wears nice enough socks, he's OK in our books." - CBC

and it will come up. 

[Goddess]

On 10/29/2024 at 8:55 PM, CdnFox said:

They do absolutely have a path to release the information if they wish

They released it to the Washington Post.

[WestCanMan]

On 10/30/2024 at 9:18 AM, Dougie93 said:

also bear in mind, that unlike Mata Hari in 1917

under Canadian constitutional law now,

the moment any intelligence is invoked against these persons

they cannot be convicted of any offence therein related to said intelligence

since it would all be inadmissible in court on the spot

as it is unlawful to charge anyone on the basis of clandestine intelligence gathering

I wonder if that's how the Indian gov't ended up killing that "Canadian citizen"...

Canada: "Now we know that he's a terrorist, but we can't do anything about it."

India: "Hold my rum and Coke."

[taxme]

On 11/1/2024 at 1:33 PM, herbie said:

Impossible to prove to a rightwing dupe that accuses a minority PM of being a dictator all the while wanting an actual dictator to rule.
One that years later clings to anti-vax BS that Trudeau mandated shots when they never even got one. That not being able to come from a country where you weren't vaxxed that you couldn't even get into without them in the first place was a 'loss of freedom'.
So swallowed by rightwing dogma he'd accuse a Trudeau of being a traitor to Canada with a straight face.

A butt stubborn fascist ignoroid wrong on so many levels.

The Marxist dictator in Ottawa froze the bank and credit card accounts of hundreds and hundreds of truckers and their supporters from being allowed access to their bank or credit cards accounts during the truckers demonstration in Ottawa. Many had to scrounge around to get money to live. Would you be happy about that if it happened to you? Is that not a sign of a Marxist, comrade? Forcing people to take the covid vax was not a democratic thing to be doing. 

Where and what was the problem with people who took the vax? They were now protected from covid. They were now immune from people like me who did not take the vax. I did not worry about taking the vax because there was no covid bug at all. It was all about pushing big pharma vaccines which made billions of profit for big pharma from them being allowed to push and inject their puss into stupid peoples bodies. 

From what i am seeing today, it is left wingers like you that was and still is the problem. Right wingers have the answer. 

The Marxist dictator in Ottawa is a traitor to Canada. Believe it or not. 

And it is stubborn comrades like you that has been wrong on so many occasions and issues here in Canada. You appear to be a poor little lefty liberal snowflake loser on so many levels. Go away, lefty. 🤡