How do we keep Social Conservatism (Fascism) out of Canada?

[blackbird]

56 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

but the Old Testament is Judaism

The Old Testament is and always has been important to Christians.  You may be interested in this article.

The O.T. was the only Bible Jesus had to refer to.  It has much to teach us.

It also is full of prophecy about the first coming of the Messiah.  Also prophecy concerning the second coming of Christ.

Both the O.T. and the N.T. condemn homosexuality.  It opposes any extra-marital sex.  

But we have to be careful/gentle when dealing with that subject because we are all sinners.  Christians have been saved by grace.  There is nothing to boast of.

10 Reasons the Old Testament Is Important for Christians (thegospelcoalition.org)

 

 

[Dougie93]

3 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

It's the voice of the first and most venerable self help expert.  Let go of the ego and listen.  If you are able to submit yourself to a monarch, a person who is not a god, you should be able to submit to a framework of behavior. And this one is the best.

I only submit to the Commander-in-Chief within the confines of a strictly delineated constitutional paradigm

bearing in mind that we Protestants have unhorsed & unheaded monarchs whom were tyrants

reducing Jesus Christ to a "self help expert" ?

that's blasphemy where I come from

[Zeitgeist]

34 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

why should I as an individual make a moral choice against homosexuality ?

as I say, the Nazarene Himself never spoke about it

He has never directed me in either way on the subject

furthermore, He risked His life to defend prostitutes whom slept with Romans under pain of execution by stoning

so why would He suddenly round on the homosexuals with any particular wrath ?

I agree that Jesus didn’t condemn Mary Magdelin.  He also said, “Now go and sin no more.”  He recognized the act of prostitution as a sin.  There’s a big difference between condemnation and affirmation. That’s where we’re missing the point in our inclusivity-obsessed culture.  Loving a person isn’t the same thing as supporting a person’s choices.

[Dougie93]

10 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

I agree that Jesus didn’t condemn Mary Magdelin.  He also said, “Now go and sin no more.”  He recognized the act of prostitution as a sin.  There’s a big difference between condemnation and affirmation. That’s where we’re missing the point in our inclusivity-obsessed culture.  Loving a person isn’t the same thing as supporting a person’s choices.

I neither affirm nor condemn

to place myself in the position of judge therein, would be Popery in my view

[Zeitgeist]

14 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

I neither affirm nor condemn

to place myself in the position of judge therein, would be Popery in my view

“Judge not lest ye be judged”

[Dougie93]

28 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

 That’s where we’re missing the point in our inclusivity-obsessed culture. 

I would suggest that the culture is in fact Orwellian

in that, whatever it is proclaiming to be, the opposite is actually the case

[Dougie93]

6 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

“Judge not lest ye be judged”

I simply practice what I preach ;

no man nor office between you & your Creator, to include me

[herbie]

17 hours ago, eyeball said:

He said he was going to get rid of the CBC early in the game

Or make it a freedumb of choice issue for Canadians and remove it from the basic TV tier so you have to pay $5.99 a month and endure ten times as many commercials like DISC channel. That would be a 'true conservative' solution, privatize, make you pay 10X as much, and inconvenience you more. But you'll have "choice" you can choose to watch the Stanley Cup on SportsNet for $12.99 a month and only 3X as many commercials if you like.

6 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

And this one is the best.

No, that one is the best! And we must kill you for thinking otherwise.
Isn't that the way it works?

I think I'll stick with the leftist atheist so-called college professor, fake library media and pretend science and say if the voices in your head aren't YOU thinking, you're clinically insane.

[Michael Hardner]

22 minutes ago, herbie said:

1. Isn't that the way it works?

2. I think I'll stick with the leftist atheist so-called college professor, fake library media and pretend science and say if the voices in your head aren't YOU thinking, you're clinically insane.

1. No.

2. Ok. 

[herbie]

Like how does a discussion on keeping Fascism out of Canada wander off into "if Jesus condemned Mary Magdalene"? Was Mussolini one of her decedents according to some new Dan Brown conspiracy book they're filming in Toronto?

[Army Guy]

17 hours ago, jatt47 said:

I know, I've been around the rodeo. 

Recruiting hates the Kirpan. 

Recruiting has quotas it has to keep...screw them...they might not like Kirpans but your rights are enshrined in law....and they can't buck the law or charter of rights....if you want to soldier then stand up and fight for your right to defend this nation....there are recruiting centers in every city, each with their own quotas start shopping......

I've soldiered with dozens of nations soldiers, and dozens of different Canadians,from pretty much every back ground.... never had problems with any one race or creed or religion...we all have one thing in common we all bleed red for our flag and king...

[Zeitgeist]

3 hours ago, herbie said:

Like how does a discussion on keeping Fascism out of Canada wander off into "if Jesus condemned Mary Magdalene"? Was Mussolini one of her decedents according to some new Dan Brown conspiracy book they're filming in Toronto?

How does one make the stupid leap of logic that social conservatives are fascists?

[herbie]

Hmm read the list of things that define you was one. That would be a start.

[Zeitgeist]

36 minutes ago, herbie said:

Hmm read the list of things that define you was one. That would be a start.

So juvenile.  You like libertine values and handouts but don’t understand why overspending leads to the fiscal conservatism you hate or why the dubious values you like create family breakdown and social problems.  If you haven’t figured it out at your age, you probably won’t.  

Edited July 7, 2024 by Zeitgeist

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, herbie said:

Hmm read the list of things that define you was one. That would be a start.

That would also be an end - the list doesnt' match up to the definition of a social conservative at all. English your second language is it?

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

How does one make the stupid leap of logic that social conservatives are fascists?

Wudduya stupid'?

"Facist"  are really bad and social conservatives are really bad (all conservatives really) so OBVIOUSLY fascists and social conservatives must be the same thing. 

 

I'm not even kidding - this is how their minds work.  They pick works they think are really emotionally charged and then use them even if it's completely out of context.  That's how we get "Cultural" genocides, and "racist" math. 

They're children. 

[Dougie93]

11 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

How does one make the stupid leap of logic that social conservatives are fascists?

social conservatism being the paradigm which prevents the rise of Darwinian nihilistic movements

it is only when the socially conservative civil society collapses, that Fascism can rise to power

although in Canada, the majority Anglo population is so emasculated, effeminate & unmartial

that I can't see a Fascist regime rising domestically

rather, Fascism in Canada would have to be imported by foreign ethnonationalists

[ironstone]

On 6/19/2024 at 12:09 AM, CrazyCanuck89 said:

Frank Zappa had warned the American public about this back in the 80s.  The Greatest threat to America isn't Socialism or communism.  It's a fascist theocracy, that is the biggest problem.

His words ring true today.  We see the stench make it's way into Canada.

Can you give some examples of fascism in Canada today?

[herbie]

Yes don't read anything. Argue that history, the libraries and the dictionaries are all fake news instead. That repeating the same thing over and over yields different results. That making up a new name like 'social conservatives' for the same behaviour makes it different.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

Yes don't read anything. Argue that history, the libraries and the dictionaries are all fake news instead. That repeating the same thing over and over yields different results. That making up a new name like 'social conservatives' for the same behaviour makes it different.

In short - you'd prefer passive agressive lying to actual reality    Well...  you ARE on the left. You do you. 

[WestCanMan]

On 6/19/2024 at 8:57 AM, CdnFox said:

well - seeing as it's now 2024 i guess we just keep doing what we've been doing for the last 44 years?

OMG, I can't believe Frank Zappa was wrong. 

Next thing you know people will stop naming their kids Moon Unit and Dweezil.

[WestCanMan]

On 7/5/2024 at 10:15 AM, CrazyCanuck89 said:

The current NDP isn't a challenge. 

Correct. They're easy to beat because they're challenged. 

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They have loads of good policy,

What's their policy? To back the Liberals until the next scheduled election so that they all get their pensions? (actually 1 week after - they have to move the election back 1 week so that they qualify, and that is ALL they care about)

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Which is weird because many people benefit, including Conservatives.

I've only read a few of your posts and I already know that you're a dumb racist.

I'll poke and prod you until you admit it. Just watch me 😁

[WestCanMan]

10 hours ago, ironstone said:

Can you give some examples of fascism in Canada today?

I have some:

LPOC control over media and social media. 

LPOC control of the RCMP. 

LPOC martial law, and the beating of peaceful protesters after they've surrendered on their knees with their hands behind their head. 

LPOC vax-fascism, including:

1. vax mandates
2. the gesundheitspass

23 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

So juvenile.  You like libertine values and handouts but don’t understand why overspending leads to the fiscal conservatism you hate or why the dubious values you like create family breakdown and social problems.  If you haven’t figured it out at your age, you probably won’t.  

I'm not above responding to the herbies of this forum, but you are.

Keep saying what you want to say and ignore the sh1t-posters.  

[Five of swords]

On 6/19/2024 at 12:09 AM, CrazyCanuck89 said:

Frank Zappa had warned the American public about this back in the 80s.  The Greatest threat to America isn't Socialism or communism.  It's a fascist theocracy, that is the biggest problem.

His words ring true today.  We see the stench make it's way into Canada.

Fascism is socialist. Theocracy precludes fascism. 

[Five of swords]

On 6/19/2024 at 11:35 AM, blackbird said:

Your claim that social Conservatism is Fascism is completely false to begin with.  Seems you are attempting to stoke a debate about something that is not real.  There is no connection between Fascism and social Convservatism.

I don't know what your definition of social Conservatism would be but it must be some kind of woke or Communist false definition.  

Adolph Hitler was a Fascist and the Nazis were Fascists.  They were absolute brutal dictators and had an evil ideology of the superiority of their race.

That was not social conservatism at all.  Social Conservatism is not extreme right wing either.  Ordinary conservatism could be described as right of centre on the political spectrum and social Conservatism is just a part of right wing beliefs but encompasses people who are Christians and believe in Christian principles.  That is hardly Fascism.

Calling social Conservatives Fascists is a smear and a BIG lie.  You should be ashamed and apologize for smearing people.

National socialists did not have an ideology about the superiority of their race.