Homelessness increased by 20 per cent despite $443 million Liberal plan: PBO

[CdnFox]

PBO finds homelessness rose 20 per cent under Liberals' plan | National Post

OTTAWA — Despite $443 million in new annual spending aimed to reduce homelessness the number of people without a roof over their head has grown by 20 per cent in Canada, according to the Parliamentary Budget Officer.

The new $443 million was a 374 per cent increase compared to prior spending, but it doesn’t appear to be having the desired effect.

“In the latest point in time count published by Infrastructure Canada, the number of homeless people had increased by 20 per cent relative to 2018 reaching 34,270, and we estimate that the number of chronically homeless people had increased by 38 per cent relative to 2018.”

 

I think this is one of the biggest problems people have with the liberal overspending. Is bad enough that we spent more than we can probably afford, but it never seems like anything gets better. We pay more global warming tax but global warming is just as bad. We pay more infrastructure tax but the infrastructure doesn't get better. We pay more to the public service and yet can't get a passport or get through customs. Etc

And now we have paid vastly more money for homelessness only to see homelessness increase by leaps and bounds. A 38% increase in chronic homelessness is horrific.

[myata]

Now our beloved leader "PP" with his magical tongue and hand-ridden caucus will say a few words and it'll all go away. Somehow. Magically. Just believe.

[Michael Hardner]

6 minutes ago, myata said:

Now our beloved leader "PP" with his magical tongue and hand-ridden caucus will say a few words and it'll all go away. Somehow. Magically. Just believe.

What will happen, though, is that the tribesmen will switch sides as to how bad our problems are in different areas.

And don't forget the time honoured tradition of blaming the last guys for the mess we're in.

[Guest]

28 minutes ago, myata said:

Now our beloved leader "PP" with his magical tongue and hand-ridden caucus will say a few words and it'll all go away. Somehow. Magically. Just believe.

I think he's just going to throw far less money at the problem.

You can't eradicate homelessness. You certainly shouldn't throw millions at it, and have it increase, either. 

I expect PP to be far more fiscally responsible, all while not exasperating the homelessness issue. I don't expect him to fix this, and anyone who does isn't being realistic.

People voting for that guy, want things back at a level where it's there, but out of sight enough that they don't have to deal with it or feel guilty about it.

Kind of like cities making it harder to sleep on beaches due to designs that make it impossible, anywhere in tourism hot spots.

[myata]

32 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

And don't forget the time honoured tradition of blaming the last guys for the mess we're in.

In a binary political system? Isn't it like, the eternal (political) engine, reinvented? (and beating, hands on all laws of the sane nature)

[myata]

59 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

People voting for that guy, want things back at a level where it's there, but out of sight enough that they don't have to deal with it or feel guilty about it.

And all of these great things minus all the bad ones, will just happen out of one face, cheeks and a tongue? No accountability, checks and controls needed, just believe?

[ExFlyer]

49 minutes ago, myata said:

And all of these great things minus all the bad ones, will just happen out of one face, cheeks and a tongue? No accountability, checks and controls needed, just believe?

Accountability of what?

Checks for what?

Controls of what?

You, the one that whines about government interference are demanding more??? LOL

[Moonbox]

2 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

I think he's just going to throw far less money at the problem.

You can't eradicate homelessness. You certainly shouldn't throw millions at it, and have it increase, either. 

$347M is nothing.  That's like trying to bail out a ship that just hit an iceberg with a sand bucket.  

"Titanic still sinking, despite $15 investment in large sand bucket."

That's how that article reads.  😆

[Guest]

1 hour ago, myata said:

No accountability

Are you kidding me? PP will be under a microscope.

Trudeau gets softballs. PP will get lynched (figuratively) if he doesn't deliver.

He will have to answer the bell should he make the issue worse.

I think people are just so fatigued of Trudeau, they will give him the benefit of the doubt, but if he feels he will get a leash as long as Trudeau's, he's smoking the same stuff he is trying to get out of hospitals in BC.

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, myata said:

Now our beloved leader "PP" with his magical tongue and hand-ridden caucus will say a few words and it'll all go away. Somehow. Magically. Just believe.

No NO -  if you just vote "Justin" like you did last time then THIS time he'll get it right for sure!!!! 

[myata]

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

PP will get lynched (figuratively) if he doesn't deliver.

When did you last see any issue or matter of any notable importance delivered or resolved, in this country? Regardless of the color of the cheeks and tongue? I won't even try to go through all recent failures.

The first underground was built in the 19th century and here in the 21st we're missing all schedules and estimates, in the national capital. How naive could one be, credibly?

[CdnFox]

7 minutes ago, myata said:

When did you last see any issue or matter of any notable importance delivered or resolved, in this country? Regardless of the color of the cheeks and tongue? I won't even try to go through all recent failures.

 

2015, before Justin got elected. 

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

 Trudeau gets softballs.  

To the contrary - PP does a great job of holding Trudeau's feet to the fire, including blaming him for provincial shortfalls.  My public Facebook feed is full of people blaming Trudeau for lots of things outside his control and that's a credit to Pierre.

 

[myata]

The culture of blaming is the natural result of the binary system. In a normal, functional one one does not need to blame: just get the one who can do the job and get the right results. It's not possible in the binary system where the only options are mirror-twins, with the same attitudes and effectiveness. They have the absolute zero, round zilch of the incentive to do anything at all: can just wait till the twin fks up one time too many, and pluck it (the power) right off the tree. You lose no matter what, at best a mediocre results at astronomical cost and have little else to do but to blame. But it won't change much and you aren't even expecting it, right?

[eyeball]

3 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Are you kidding me? PP will be under a microscope.

We need a macroscope. A microscope won't cut it.

[Legato]

3 minutes ago, eyeball said:

We need a macroscope. A microscope won't cut it.

The macroscope is the MSM, unfortunately it has a left tilt so everything out of focus.

[impartialobserver]

It would be interesting to see a regional breakdown. In the Western US, we have slightly more homeless than the midwest due to somewhat more favorable climate and recent sharp increases in housing costs. 

[Boges]

Is it not surprising that homelessness is up at the same time housing is at a shortage and prices have completely outpaced wages? 

I think the Federal Liberals are trying to incentivize building more housing nationally but high interest rates don't help. 

People who don't have lots of liquid cash simply can't afford to buy a home. 

[Goddess]

Nobody wants to talk about it, lest they be called "racist" and "anti-immigration" - but we need to put a halt on immigration, TFWs and fake students - right NOW.

Canada's population increased by a million in just 9 months.  Calgary's population increased 6% in a year and Edmonton, nearly 5%.

The strain on infrastructure, housing, healthcare, the economy, schools, food banks - literally everything - is not sustainable.

I believe I read recently that looking after illegals entering the country is costing taxpayers $12 billion a year and that the numbers being reported are likely quite a bit higher, like almost double.

We can't afford it.

 

[Michael Hardner]

5 minutes ago, Goddess said:

1. Nobody wants to talk about it, lest they be called "racist" and "anti-immigration" - but we need to put a halt on immigration, TFWs and fake students - right NOW.

2. I believe I read recently that looking after illegals entering the country is costing taxpayers $12 billion a year and that the numbers being reported are likely quite a bit higher, like almost double.

1. Old news.  Today - everybody talks about it.  Liberals talk about it, which is why they're limiting student immigration now.  There's only so far you can go with programs that everybody opposes.

2. Cite... $12B ?  That sounds high, and you are asserting $24B so please back that one up.

But policy changes to stop 'illegals' is about mobilizing enforcement isn't it ?  It would be interesting if Poilievre was going to prioritize that.  The truth is that the housing industry is big money - a larger share of the GDP than in the past - and governments are rightfully afraid of pricking the balloon.

Poilievre is a landlord btw.

 

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

To the contrary - PP does a great job of holding Trudeau's feet to the fire, including blaming him for provincial shortfalls.  My public Facebook feed is full of people blaming Trudeau for lots of things outside his control and that's a credit to Pierre.

 

Really? That seems pretty unlikely, which subjects are your Facebook feed full of that the federal government has absolutely no influence over that PP is saying justin should do some thing about?

[CdnFox]

23 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Old news.  Today - everybody talks about it.  Liberals talk about it, which is why they're limiting student immigration now.  There's only so far you can go with programs that everybody opposes.
 

So far this year they've broken new records for immigration.  Old news current problem.  But of course, your usual tactic of 'why are we talking about this'.

 

[Goddess]

35 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Cite... $12B ?  That sounds high, and you are asserting $24B so please back that one up.

I'll see if I can find it - I was reading something about it recently but didn't save the info at the time.  I'm not asserting the dollars are doubled.  I read the numbers being brought in are likely much more than we're being told - possibly double.  Sorry for the confusion.

[herbie]

So long as the price of housing increases homelessness will keep increasing. You want the govt to fix that? Then you better bite your tongue and vote for an actual Communist candidate cuz no one else will actively control the real estate, construction and financing markets.

Even a revival of postwar veterans housing programs would cost $trillions and still no one could make the mortgage payments at today's values.

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, herbie said:

So long as the price of housing increases homelessness will keep increasing. You want the govt to fix that? Then you better bite your tongue and vote for an actual Communist candidate cuz no one else will actively control the real estate, construction and financing markets.

Why on earth would they need to? They control immigration and all they need to do is slow that to a level that our developers can keep up with, and then incentivize our developers. Trudeau is going with the leftist route, that's why it's failing. The last thing we need is more leftist