Of course conservatives are happier!

[blackbird]

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By definition, conservatives believe that there are values, beliefs, attitudes and ideas worth conserving. Hence, they wake up every morning with a sense of existential glee; they recognize that their society, whilst far from perfect, contains many tried and tested ideas worth preserving. Liberals and progressives on the other hand wake up with a dark cloud of existential doom because their society is apparently racist, sexist, transphobic, Islamophobic and ableist. Canada supposedly sits on stolen land. Capitalism is an exploitative system that rapes Mother Earth. We have less than 15 minutes to go because of the existential crisis associated with climate change. Hence, from the perspective of the Noble Progressive, we must dismantle the current system and fight for Unicornia, which lies just around the corner. How could one be happy when there is so much ugliness in the world?

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Gad Saad: Of course conservatives are happier — they believe society is worth it (msn.com)

I realize not all conservatives will agree with me about my source of truth, but this is my belief.

 

Edited December 13, 2023 by blackbird

[Gaétan]

The Conservatives are worse than the Liberals, as soon as they are elected, you will see huge transfers of money from the richest to tax havens and the money for food banks will be given in grants to the wealthiest

Edited December 13, 2023 by Gaétan

[Legato]

5 minutes ago, Gaétan said:

The Conservatives are worse than the Liberals, as soon as they are elected, you will see huge transfers of money from the richest to tax havens and the money for food banks will be given in grants to the wealthiest

What's the interest on loans from a food bank?

[herbie]

They're so damn happy they're whining all day on every forum on the Internet.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, herbie said:

They're so damn happy they're whining all day on every forum on the Internet.

Actually, fun fact - if you look at the actual posts while they tend to have opinions, it's those on the left such as yourself who actually do most of the whining and anger-posting.  You're especally bad these days.  Conservatives might say "well it seems silly putting tampons in boys bathrooms'  but you actually freak out about it and throw out vitriolic rage-fuelled posts, whereas we find it funny and a little sad.

Soooooo.... 

[TreeBeard]

6 hours ago, blackbird said:

How could one be happy when there is so much ugliness in the world?

If I was under the delusion that I was going to live forever, I wouldn’t care what happened here in this life on this earth and I’d be happier for it.  
 

Reality can be a buzzkill.  

[Perspektiv]

17 hours ago, blackbird said:

How could one be happy when there is so much ugliness in the world?

One of the laws of happiness, is the ability to focus solely on what one can control.

From the conservative people I know, this tended to be the mentality. To provide for their family, to be a good and honorable citizen, and understanding that some things you will have zero control over. Many also had an unwavering faith.

On the hard left, I have met nothing  but miserable people who are just radiating with heavy handed levels of anxiety, depression and unhappiness.

They see everything as a cause, and feel all causes must be fought to give themselves an illusion of changing the world. If you're not fighting with them, you're against them.

Michael Jackson famously coined the "be the change you seek in this world".

Trying to actually change the world is futile. Its a massive planet, and millions if not billions of people will have far more pressing needs. 

I see it like a country like the US, which is incredibly f-ed up, telling China how to run their country. Feeling an entitlement to this.

I live in a city where a lot of people have unhappy faces.

When I used to take the bus you would see the soul missing from the drivers.

This could anger you, in wanting to fight the system, or you can simply take steps as to not become part of it. Lead by example, vs shaming and belittling others.

I just don't understand this worrying about everything in the world. 

I have enough s*** on my plate.

I see it like a homeless person aggressively begging me for change. I will give if I have any.

Water or food, if I can buy you some.

But you approaching me with aggression, to the tune of getting angry at me for not "helping"?

Thats when the black in me wants to come out and slap the dude.

Am sorry you're in this situation, but you're not my problem. I easily can sleep at night.

I do what I can, but just like on a flight. I give myself oxygen first.

[Moonbox]

16 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Actually, fun fact - if you look at the actual posts while they tend to have opinions, it's those on the left such as yourself who actually do most of the whining and anger-posting.  You're especally bad these days.  Conservatives might say "well it seems silly putting tampons in boys bathrooms'  but you actually freak out about it and throw out vitriolic rage-fuelled posts, whereas we find it funny and a little sad.

Soooooo.... 

Your lack of self-awareness is, as always, hilarious.  ?

[WestCanMan]

23 hours ago, blackbird said:

Liberals and progressives on the other hand wake up with a dark cloud of existential doom because their society is apparently racist, sexist, transphobic, Islamophobic and ableist. Canada supposedly sits on stolen land. Capitalism is an exploitative system that rapes Mother Earth. We have less than 15 minutes to go because of the existential crisis associated with climate change.

I don't think they believe any of that, they just have to say it to look cool within their cult.

Eg, do you think that MH really feels like "islamic societies are more liberal and tolerant than our Canadian society"?

Of course not: no one is that stupid. But in order to have any standing within the leftist cult, he has to say it like he means it. 

[impartialobserver]

I am quite content with life. Politics is like diarrhea. Occasionally, it is necessary and best to get through it and on to something more meaningful and enjoyable. 

Edited December 14, 2023 by impartialobserver

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Moonbox said:

Your lack of self-awareness is, as always, hilarious.  ?

Awww muffin - finally realized you were wrong and have resorted to cheap insults to make yourself feel better have you? Like a chihuahua on the other side of a fence barking as the big dogs walk by his little yard  

Because you're so desperate to not ALWAYS fail, you keep picking dumb fights with me out of the blue. And becasue you're no where near as smart as you think you are and rush to the attack without thinking, you always wind up looking stupid. And then you get mad at me.

This is not my fault. This is your fault for being stupid, If you put your mind to it and focus on actual arguments you can look smarter.  Don't blame me for your failings, just do better.

[Moonbox]

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Awww muffin - finally realized you were wrong and have resorted to cheap insults to make yourself feel better have you? Like a chihuahua on the other side of a fence barking as the big dogs walk by his little yard  

Again, your lack of self-awareness is hilarious.  Your first post in this thread was picking a fight, and having that pointed out triggered your default state of yap-yap-yap, complete with your programmed "aww muffin" response.  ??

[CdnFox]

8 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Again, your lack of self-awareness is hilarious.  Your first post in this thread was picking a fight,

Same old same old.  Yawn.

Yours was the first post in our conversation. I responded to you. You weren't even on the thread till you decided to take a swing at me, as you frequently do.  Sigh - once again in your rush to not look stupid you screwed up simple facts.

[SpankyMcFarland]

On 12/13/2023 at 8:32 PM, CdnFox said:

Actually, fun fact - if you look at the actual posts while they tend to have opinions, it's those on the left such as yourself who actually do most of the whining and anger-posting.  You're especally bad these days.  Conservatives might say "well it seems silly putting tampons in boys bathrooms'  but you actually freak out about it and throw out vitriolic rage-fuelled posts, whereas we find it funny and a little sad.

Soooooo.... 

Anger-posting is an exclusively lefty thing? This site shows abundant evidence to the contrary. 

[SpankyMcFarland]

Small ‘c’ conservatives expect less than liberals. The status quo is closer to what they think they deserve. More of them are religious which may make more grateful for their lot in life. 

Edited December 23, 2023 by SpankyMcFarland

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Anger-posting is an exclusively lefty thing? This site shows abundant evidence to the contrary. 

the term "the most" is synonomous with "exclusively'?  

Once again - the left has to lie and twist to try to make a point. Did i use the word exclusively anywhere? no? Hmmm. Did i say they tend to do it "the most"? yes.  Not the same thing - but you know i'm right and you're ANGRY i'm right so you have to lie about what i said so you can make it look like i was wrong when i wasn't.

And you realize i was replying to your anger post ? 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Small ‘c’ conservatives expect less than liberals. The status quo is closer to what they think they deserve. More of them are religious which may make more grateful for their lot in life. 

I think that's true, although to clarify - they want and need less from other people by and large.

They are content to mind their own world and be left alone, and that makes them happy. Where as those on the left and perhaps on the far right concern themselves with the behavior of others, and demand to change or impact that behavior.  You have to be pretty hate filled to go try to prevent someone else from talking at an event - you don't see a lot of conservatives do that. 

But the left - WE CANNOT ALLOW  BEN SHAPIRO TO SPEAK!!!!!  WE MUST BURN DOWN THE UNIVERSITY INSTEAD!!!!

That kind of anger and hatred leaves a permanent mark on people, it doesn't just go away the next day.

Meanwhile conservatives are at home eating a nice dinner and talking about their next fishing trip.  Because Fishs don't care about your Feelings.    LOL

Edited December 23, 2023 by CdnFox

[SpankyMcFarland]

41 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

the term "the most" is synonomous with "exclusively'?  

Once again - the left has to lie and twist to try to make a point. Did i use the word exclusively anywhere? no? Hmmm. Did i say they tend to do it "the most"? yes.  Not the same thing - but you know i'm right and you're ANGRY i'm right so you have to lie about what i said so you can make it look like i was wrong when i wasn't.

And you realize i was replying to your anger post ? 

Would you consider yourself an angry person? Do you ever wonder whether people might see your posts that way? 

To any genuine socialists out there - I know it’s absurd to consider me left-wing. 
 

 

Edited December 23, 2023 by SpankyMcFarland

[SpankyMcFarland]

37 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I think that's true, although to clarify - they want and need less from other people by and large.

They are content to mind their own world and be left alone, and that makes them happy. Where as those on the left and perhaps on the far right concern themselves with the behavior of others, and demand to change or impact that behavior.  You have to be pretty hate filled to go try to prevent someone else from talking at an event - you don't see a lot of conservatives do that. 

But the left - WE CANNOT ALLOW  BEN SHAPIRO TO SPEAK!!!!!  WE MUST BURN DOWN THE UNIVERSITY INSTEAD!!!!

That kind of anger and hatred leaves a permanent mark on people, it doesn't just go away the next day.

Meanwhile conservatives are at home eating a nice dinner and talking about their next fishing trip.  Because Fishs don't care about your Feelings.    LOL

Actually, I see quite a lot of that activity on the right too. What do you think DeSantis is doing to educational institutions in Florida. These vices are human ones. 
 

 

44 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

the term "the most" is synonomous with "exclusively'?  

Once again - the left has to lie and twist to try to make a point. Did i use the word exclusively anywhere? no? Hmmm. Did i say they tend to do it "the most"? yes.  Not the same thing - but you know i'm right and you're ANGRY i'm right so you have to lie about what i said so you can make it look like i was wrong when i wasn't.

And you realize i was replying to your anger post ? 

I’ll leave it to others to decide which of us exhibits more anger in their posts. 

[SpankyMcFarland]

On 12/13/2023 at 3:47 PM, blackbird said:

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By definition, conservatives believe that there are values, beliefs, attitudes and ideas worth conserving. Hence, they wake up every morning with a sense of existential glee; they recognize that their society, whilst far from perfect, contains many tried and tested ideas worth preserving. Liberals and progressives on the other hand wake up with a dark cloud of existential doom because their society is apparently racist, sexist, transphobic, Islamophobic and ableist. Canada supposedly sits on stolen land. Capitalism is an exploitative system that rapes Mother Earth. We have less than 15 minutes to go because of the existential crisis associated with climate change. Hence, from the perspective of the Noble Progressive, we must dismantle the current system and fight for Unicornia, which lies just around the corner. How could one be happy when there is so much ugliness in the world?

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Gad Saad: Of course conservatives are happier — they believe society is worth it (msn.com)

I realize not all conservatives will agree with me about my source of truth, but this is my belief.

 

Any mature person should see the world and its past as clearly as possible. Human history is tragic and climate change is extremely serious, becoming more so each year. That doesn’t stop a person from marvelling at the beauty and preciousness of life. If anything, the fragility of our plight makes life even more valuable. 

For all I know, conservatives in general may be happier by some measures. I doubt some of the ones who post here are happier, though. They show little sign of it. 
 

 

Edited December 23, 2023 by SpankyMcFarland

[blackbird]

It's funny how some posters who lean to the left are still in denial.  They would never admit the truth even though it stares them in the face. 

As an example of the "denial syndrome", I wrote that the failing health care system in Canada was also being harmed by the Liberal government throwing over 4 billion dollars to Iraq.  Yet some lefty still managed to deny it and question how spending money on other things would affect our health care system.  He evidently doesn't understand the money all comes from the same source, the Canadian taxpayers who only pay a specific amount.  The money tree is not endless.

I just noticed the brilliant writer, Conrad Black wrote an opinion piece about the Human Right's Commission's moronic attack on Christmas.   Can you believe it?   These people should all be fired.  What a useless organization.

"It is illustrative of the nonsense that now chronically afflicts our country and much of the Western world that the Canadian Human Rights Commission recently reported that statutory holidays for Christian celebrations, including Christians, are “a form of discrimination” that is “deeply rooted in our identity as a settler colonialism state.” It is more accurate to say that the Human Rights Commission is a form of idiocy deeply rooted in our woke, politically correct foolishness."

Conrad Black: The Human Rights Commission's moronic attack on Christmas (msn.com)

This surely is proof of how unhappy the progressive left/liberals must be.  How could anyone be happy going around hating Christmas holidays and celebrations and thinking Christians or Christianity is a form of discrimination that is ruining their life.  How sad could such people be.  Their mind is twisted and demented.  Very tragic.  

 

[Perspektiv]

I don't know if I would say conservatives are happier, than simply them being more accepting of the world for what it is. Feeling more fulfilled, because they don't worry about things they can't do a thing about. Many are faith driven, so in their moments of weakness, tend to pray for strength. Of course, this does relate to happiness.

My wife is far more conservative than me. She also is God fearing.

She presents as happy to all those who know her, but carries the weight of the world on her shoulders, as is the sole source of support to her extended family who are still in the Philippines, which includes orphaned children who could starve to death on the streets without her guidance.

She opens up to me, as am her husband, so have shouldered every rant, frustration and tear.

To those who barely know her, they see her as incredibly strong, as her stoic presence is unwavering. She has a boss aura to her. To her, who is she to complain.

She has friends who weren't as fortunate as her, and are struggling immensely. Some have committed suicide during covid-19, being alienated further with the heavy loads that they carried.

Some who almost considered selling their bodies due to extreme poverty and financial pressures and emergencies that required immediate attention (IE hospitalized kids at hospitals requiring upfront down payments) but with no funds to undertake such life and death pressures, something even at her most desperate, my wife was fortunate enough to never need to do.

She sees the unfairness of it all, but her strong faith in God gives her the strength to build her empire when she is at times, wanting to give up, as she wants to give back to her community.

It breaks my heart to go to her country and see young children begging for food, forget cash.

Ribs showing, making you feel horrible for the beautiful breakfast you had. The shelter. The clothing that you enjoy. 

You look at a running faucet differently, after having to collect rain water due to yet another outtage, or showering without hot water, as you're visiting family and want to take in their lifestyle, as is.

People in such countries, do the ice bucket challenge, twice a day if they are fortunate enough to have access to water o_O 

I eventually got used to it, but truly gave me a new lease on life, for little things like warm water and constantly running water.

It truly puts my life in perspective. I eat three meals a day, we have a comfortable house, a nice car and can afford to take care of ourselves, and support her family.

While it isn't lost on me how unfair and cruel the world is, I literally have zero control for any of this.

I am one man. I would drive myself into an early grave, in attempting to help everyone.

When I hand a bottle of cold water to a homeless person during a heatwave and tell them "God bless you", I couldn't mean those words any more. Its conceding to my powerlessness, but still feeling so fortunate  that I can do something. Donate to food banks, clothing and toy drives, etc.

Just like the wife, we focused on getting ourselves right, and building our empire brick by brick. Start small, finish big.

We want greener initiatives, we implement them into our business model. 

I see the hard left, like my first time in the Philippines. 

I couldn't handle the long lineups, the fact people were so easygoing about time, when I was raised under a firm schedule, and how green initiatives get smothered under corruption.

I was furious about all the issues I saw, and was in disbelief at the lack of anything done about it, or what felt like it, based on what I saw.

The current me, knows I can't help over 94 million people, but what I do know, is I can create good jobs with the wife, and benefit our immediate circle of people. I can influence future generations of children to be all they can be, and use part of their success to give back.

This makes me very happy, and leaves me fulfilled. I can sleep at night knowing I gave it my best. A question I ask myself daily.

I have worked with a few far leftist people, and where we clashed, is on their feeling I should be living as a ball of hate filled anxiety, who is ashamed of being on "borrowed land". How dare I be happy, with what is going on.

Most leftists just like conservatives, are moderate. So are highly rational. 

I find its the younger generation of leftists that are often very far left, which encounters this high level of anger and "woke" activism, to replace having to be a productive member of society.

I only point to these people, when I consider my statement on conservatives being happier.

[CdnFox]

15 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Would you consider yourself an angry person?

 

I'm actually a pretty happy person    BUt i am agressive especially with those who are pridefully 1diots. Just like most dogs are pretty happy, but will likely shake the hell out of a rat they catch in the pantry.   

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Do you ever wonder whether people might see your posts that way? 

Not really - people are wrong all the time.

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To any genuine socialists out there - I know it’s absurd to consider me left-wing. 

LOLOL - well it would be far far more absurd to call you right wing    Sorry kid, you're definitely on the left side of the spectrum. You really should join us over here on the right, we're so happy, we actually bring beer and bouncy castles to our protests  

[herbie]

I see Mr Christian is moaning again that we didn't take away from the poor to use on ourselves.
Even if multi-billions have been poured into Health Care in the last year or so it hasn't already fixed itself. The new hospital here was started in 2022 but it's not already opened and fully staffed, the kid next door that started Med School hasn't already graduated. I WANT IT ALL...RIGHT EFFING NOW!!!

I thought conservatives were supposed to be happier.

This pensioner lady I know said the battery on her iPad is wearing out, how much for a new battery? Told her that was a ridiculously expansive fix, you sit in your armchair and play with it so just plug it in while you do.
The plug is too far away.
So spend $5 for an extension cord.

- She brought over her new iPad for me to set up, complaining it was almost $800 she had to put on her charge card. Way more than her first one, and concluded that it was Trudeau's fault she had to borrow that much money. Not a happy conservative.

 

 

[Perspektiv]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

concluded that it was Trudeau's fault she had to borrow that much money. Not a happy conservative.

 

 

You're reaching quite a bit there.

I mean, there obviously will be unhappy conservatives.

But what I see more, is pure vitriolic hate and anger, on the far left.

People who have a purpose, will naturally be happier.

A lot more purpose behind being a contributing portion of civilization.