herbie Posted November 18, 2023 Report Posted November 18, 2023 Maple Ridge, B.C., will be home to a new $1.05-billion lithium-ion battery plant and an anticipated 450 permanent jobs.https://globalnews.ca/news/10091780/billion-dollar-battery-plant-maple-ridge/ Might as well get in on it. BC used to be a major builder of heavy trucks good to see some secondary industry coming back. 2 Quote
Jack9000 Posted November 18, 2023 Report Posted November 18, 2023 sounds very promising Quote PROUD NDP SUPPORTER. #SINGHOUT
ExFlyer Posted November 18, 2023 Report Posted November 18, 2023 Is Canada trying to be the battery building country??? Why are we allowing this toxic and environmentally unfriendly industry take foothold in Canada? Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
herbie Posted November 18, 2023 Author Report Posted November 18, 2023 And makes you think lithium is toxic and environmentally unfriendly? You forget to take yours today? Quote
eyeball Posted November 18, 2023 Report Posted November 18, 2023 (edited) It takes 500,000 lbs of ore, about two of these trucks full, to make one Tesla battery. Edited November 18, 2023 by eyeball 3 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted November 18, 2023 Report Posted November 18, 2023 Where they should really build a battery factory is in the middle of an ore field. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
herbie Posted November 19, 2023 Author Report Posted November 19, 2023 And shipping materials needed, people into and products out of remote ore fields even makes sense? Or even environmental sense? Know how many trucks like that of ore it takes to make a pair of gold earrings? Or how much fuel the semis and ore ships use to bring it to a smelter? For nipple rings, nose studs and other non vital shiny things? 2 Quote
TreeBeard Posted November 20, 2023 Report Posted November 20, 2023 On 11/18/2023 at 9:13 AM, ExFlyer said: Is Canada trying to be the battery building country??? Why are we allowing this toxic and environmentally unfriendly industry take foothold in Canada? You do know that internal combustion engines are on their way out, do you not? Clearly battery tech is where the auto industry is moving. No one claims it doesn’t have its own issues and problems, but to suggest it is worse than oil for ICE is rather silly. Quote
ExFlyer Posted November 20, 2023 Report Posted November 20, 2023 1 minute ago, TreeBeard said: You do know that internal combustion engines are on their way out, do you not? Clearly battery tech is where the auto industry is moving. No one claims it doesn’t have its own issues and problems, but to suggest it is worse than oil for ICE is rather silly. We'll see. https://www.automotivedive.com/news/gm-evs-abandons-plan-build-400000-mid-2024/697670/ https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-joins-gm-ford-slowing-ev-factory-ramp-demand-fears-spread-2023-10-19/ https://fortune.com/2023/11/04/carmakers-rethink-electric-vehicle-investments-demand-inflation-interest-rates/ Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Aristides Posted November 20, 2023 Report Posted November 20, 2023 This plant is not making EV batteries. Quote
herbie Posted November 20, 2023 Author Report Posted November 20, 2023 Hmmm. So putting a battery plant in Maple Ridge, right there in the spot where EVs make more sense than any other method is a bad idea? Everywhere you want to go on a daily basis is within range of the lowest range EV currently on the market. Maybe they could drive their F350s down to park at another $20 billion in actual taxpayer cost SkyTrain extension instead. Create 20 news jobs and no new industry instead. Quote
Aristides Posted November 21, 2023 Report Posted November 21, 2023 This plant will not be making EV batteries. Quote
herbie Posted November 21, 2023 Author Report Posted November 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Aristides said: This plant will not be making EV batteries. Where'd you find that? Wasn't in the initial press release. Quote
Aristides Posted November 21, 2023 Report Posted November 21, 2023 1 hour ago, herbie said: Where'd you find that? Wasn't in the initial press release. From the link posted by the OP. Quote Battery cells produced in the plant will be used in products ranging from consumer electronics and power tools to medical devices. 1 Quote
herbie Posted November 21, 2023 Author Report Posted November 21, 2023 Oh good those exploited child workers and huge diesels will be used for laptops so people can whine about how horrible lithium is for cars.... They could adapt them if demand happens... they're all just stacks of cells in different shapes. Quote
Army Guy Posted November 27, 2023 Report Posted November 27, 2023 I thought that those new jobs were for foreign workers only.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
TreeBeard Posted November 27, 2023 Report Posted November 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, Army Guy said: I thought that those new jobs were for foreign workers only.... Wrong battery plant. But, while you’re on the topic, it’s the trade deal Harper created that opened the door to the foreign workers at the plant in Ontario. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/south-korea-battery-factory-trade-deal-1.7035141 Hundreds of South Koreans expected to work at the NextStar EV battery factory in Windsor, Ont., are legally eligible to work in Canada under a 2015 free trade agreement negotiated and implemented by Stephen Harper's former Conservative government. That’s Conservative policies for you… Quote
CdnFox Posted November 27, 2023 Report Posted November 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: I thought that those new jobs were for foreign workers only.... Not "only". They'll have a few token canadians i'm sure. Someone's got to clean the toilets. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
PIK Posted January 6, 2024 Report Posted January 6, 2024 Be great when China takes over our auto industry. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
CdnFox Posted January 6, 2024 Report Posted January 6, 2024 2 hours ago, PIK said: Be great when China takes over our auto industry. Well at least they're moving it to bc Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Army Guy Posted January 17, 2024 Report Posted January 17, 2024 On 11/18/2023 at 5:50 PM, herbie said: And makes you think lithium is toxic and environmentally unfriendly? You forget to take yours today? Have you done any research into lithium, it's production, and how toxic it is...not to mention they burst into flames every blue moon, and not to mention how hard they are to extinguish...And these trucks gulp fossil fuel like nothing we have seen...have anyone come up with a battery one yet ? Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted January 17, 2024 Report Posted January 17, 2024 On 11/20/2023 at 3:26 PM, TreeBeard said: You do know that internal combustion engines are on their way out, do you not? Clearly battery tech is where the auto industry is moving. No one claims it doesn’t have its own issues and problems, but to suggest it is worse than oil for ICE is rather silly. Or they could switch to hydrogen, that almost burns clean, no mining involved, there are already working on a hydrogen plant in NB, and powered by 4 SMR reactors...there are plenty of options rather than going to batteries... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
CdnFox Posted January 17, 2024 Report Posted January 17, 2024 33 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Or they could switch to hydrogen, that almost burns clean, ALMOST!?!?! AAAALLL MOOOOST?!?!!? Why do you hate the planet? There used to be a british saying in ww2 - "second best tomorrow". Meaning it's smarter to go with a second best solution tomorrow before the invasion rather than wait for a perfect solution after its too late. The environmentalists do NOT see the world that way. "almost" is simply not acceptable. They'd rather burn in the firey hell of climate change than go with your ALMOST perfect solution. Now shut up and go plant a tree. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
herbie Posted January 17, 2024 Author Report Posted January 17, 2024 18 hours ago, Army Guy said: Or they could switch to hydrogen, that almost burns clean "Almost" ,eh? Yes you could burn hydrogen and p1ss 2/3 of the energy away in an ICE if you were a butt stubborn blockhead, or even inject some into diesel to clean it up. Most people would use it in a fuel cell to run electric motors. Quote
eyeball Posted February 20, 2024 Report Posted February 20, 2024 On 11/19/2023 at 3:25 PM, herbie said: Know how many trucks like that of ore it takes to make a pair of gold earrings? Well yeah but, you can probably count on getting laid if you show up with a pair of gold earrings. Especially if you pulled up in a monster ore truck. Imagine the impression you'd make if it was a lithium powered monster ore truck? People would be throwing their panties at you. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
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