herbie Posted November 18, 2023 Report Share Posted November 18, 2023 Maple Ridge, B.C., will be home to a new $1.05-billion lithium-ion battery plant and an anticipated 450 permanent jobs.https://globalnews.ca/news/10091780/billion-dollar-battery-plant-maple-ridge/ Might as well get in on it. BC used to be a major builder of heavy trucks good to see some secondary industry coming back. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack9000 Posted November 18, 2023 Report Share Posted November 18, 2023 sounds very promising Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted November 18, 2023 Report Share Posted November 18, 2023 Is Canada trying to be the battery building country??? Why are we allowing this toxic and environmentally unfriendly industry take foothold in Canada? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted November 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2023 And makes you think lithium is toxic and environmentally unfriendly? You forget to take yours today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted November 18, 2023 Report Share Posted November 18, 2023 (edited) It takes 500,000 lbs of ore, about two of these trucks full, to make one Tesla battery. Edited November 18, 2023 by eyeball 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted November 18, 2023 Report Share Posted November 18, 2023 Where they should really build a battery factory is in the middle of an ore field. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted November 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2023 And shipping materials needed, people into and products out of remote ore fields even makes sense? Or even environmental sense? Know how many trucks like that of ore it takes to make a pair of gold earrings? Or how much fuel the semis and ore ships use to bring it to a smelter? For nipple rings, nose studs and other non vital shiny things? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted November 20, 2023 Report Share Posted November 20, 2023 On 11/18/2023 at 9:13 AM, ExFlyer said: Is Canada trying to be the battery building country??? Why are we allowing this toxic and environmentally unfriendly industry take foothold in Canada? You do know that internal combustion engines are on their way out, do you not? Clearly battery tech is where the auto industry is moving. No one claims it doesn’t have its own issues and problems, but to suggest it is worse than oil for ICE is rather silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted November 20, 2023 Report Share Posted November 20, 2023 1 minute ago, TreeBeard said: You do know that internal combustion engines are on their way out, do you not? Clearly battery tech is where the auto industry is moving. No one claims it doesn’t have its own issues and problems, but to suggest it is worse than oil for ICE is rather silly. We'll see. https://www.automotivedive.com/news/gm-evs-abandons-plan-build-400000-mid-2024/697670/ https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-joins-gm-ford-slowing-ev-factory-ramp-demand-fears-spread-2023-10-19/ https://fortune.com/2023/11/04/carmakers-rethink-electric-vehicle-investments-demand-inflation-interest-rates/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted November 20, 2023 Report Share Posted November 20, 2023 This plant is not making EV batteries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted November 20, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2023 Hmmm. So putting a battery plant in Maple Ridge, right there in the spot where EVs make more sense than any other method is a bad idea? Everywhere you want to go on a daily basis is within range of the lowest range EV currently on the market. Maybe they could drive their F350s down to park at another $20 billion in actual taxpayer cost SkyTrain extension instead. Create 20 news jobs and no new industry instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 This plant will not be making EV batteries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted November 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Aristides said: This plant will not be making EV batteries. Where'd you find that? Wasn't in the initial press release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 1 hour ago, herbie said: Where'd you find that? Wasn't in the initial press release. From the link posted by the OP. Quote Battery cells produced in the plant will be used in products ranging from consumer electronics and power tools to medical devices. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted November 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 Oh good those exploited child workers and huge diesels will be used for laptops so people can whine about how horrible lithium is for cars.... They could adapt them if demand happens... they're all just stacks of cells in different shapes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 I thought that those new jobs were for foreign workers only.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, Army Guy said: I thought that those new jobs were for foreign workers only.... Wrong battery plant. But, while you’re on the topic, it’s the trade deal Harper created that opened the door to the foreign workers at the plant in Ontario. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/south-korea-battery-factory-trade-deal-1.7035141 Hundreds of South Koreans expected to work at the NextStar EV battery factory in Windsor, Ont., are legally eligible to work in Canada under a 2015 free trade agreement negotiated and implemented by Stephen Harper's former Conservative government. That’s Conservative policies for you… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: I thought that those new jobs were for foreign workers only.... Not "only". They'll have a few token canadians i'm sure. Someone's got to clean the toilets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 Be great when China takes over our auto industry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 2 hours ago, PIK said: Be great when China takes over our auto industry. Well at least they're moving it to bc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 On 11/18/2023 at 5:50 PM, herbie said: And makes you think lithium is toxic and environmentally unfriendly? You forget to take yours today? Have you done any research into lithium, it's production, and how toxic it is...not to mention they burst into flames every blue moon, and not to mention how hard they are to extinguish...And these trucks gulp fossil fuel like nothing we have seen...have anyone come up with a battery one yet ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 On 11/20/2023 at 3:26 PM, TreeBeard said: You do know that internal combustion engines are on their way out, do you not? Clearly battery tech is where the auto industry is moving. No one claims it doesn’t have its own issues and problems, but to suggest it is worse than oil for ICE is rather silly. Or they could switch to hydrogen, that almost burns clean, no mining involved, there are already working on a hydrogen plant in NB, and powered by 4 SMR reactors...there are plenty of options rather than going to batteries... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 33 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Or they could switch to hydrogen, that almost burns clean, ALMOST!?!?! AAAALLL MOOOOST?!?!!? Why do you hate the planet? There used to be a british saying in ww2 - "second best tomorrow". Meaning it's smarter to go with a second best solution tomorrow before the invasion rather than wait for a perfect solution after its too late. The environmentalists do NOT see the world that way. "almost" is simply not acceptable. They'd rather burn in the firey hell of climate change than go with your ALMOST perfect solution. Now shut up and go plant a tree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted January 17 Author Report Share Posted January 17 18 hours ago, Army Guy said: Or they could switch to hydrogen, that almost burns clean "Almost" ,eh? Yes you could burn hydrogen and p1ss 2/3 of the energy away in an ICE if you were a butt stubborn blockhead, or even inject some into diesel to clean it up. Most people would use it in a fuel cell to run electric motors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 On 11/19/2023 at 3:25 PM, herbie said: Know how many trucks like that of ore it takes to make a pair of gold earrings? Well yeah but, you can probably count on getting laid if you show up with a pair of gold earrings. Especially if you pulled up in a monster ore truck. Imagine the impression you'd make if it was a lithium powered monster ore truck? People would be throwing their panties at you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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