Israeli ministry 'concept paper' proposes transferring Gaza civilians to Egypt's Sinai, with Canada as a possible final destination

[Legato]

2 hours ago, Gaétan said:

You are a racist

If he's a racist then you must be tootaling around in a F1 McLaren.

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, eyeball said:

That's a good rationale for taking over the entire planet.

Well some countries have said so over the years  

But no, not really.

 

4 hours ago, Gaétan said:

These are lies from the stinking garbage radios of the rich who say to vote for Poilievre, the most polluter activist in Canada.

And your next prime minister

[eyeball]

55 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Well some countries have said so over the years  

But no, not really.

Yes really, it gives free licence to the principle that might makes right - to the point it becomes an obligation when considered in the context of security.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Yes really, it gives free licence to the principle that might makes right - to the point it becomes an obligation when considered in the context of security.

Only to stupid people and sociopaths. Every one else knows that confrontation is always a very risky business. You put your safety at risk engaging in it even if you've thought everything through, and for no good reason if there was no real threat to begin with.  Ask hilter about that.

Only a child would think as you do

[eyeball]

10 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Only a child would think as you do

That's because the memory of what they learned in kindergarten is still fresh.

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

That's because the memory of what they learned in kindergarten is still fresh.

They're supposed to learn to share and play nice with each other, not take over the world.... what the hell kindergarten did you GO to ?!?!?!

[WestCanMan]

3 minutes ago, eyeball said:

That's because the memory of what they learned in kindergarten is still fresh.

That's when you peaked. 

[eyeball]

10 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

That's when you peaked. 

That's when you failed.

[WestCanMan]

30 minutes ago, eyeball said:

That's when you failed.

Did you graduate from kindergarten eyeball? 

Awwww, your parents must have been so proud of you, being the first one in the family and all...

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Did you graduate from kindergarten eyeball? 

Awwww, your parents must have been so proud of you, being the first one in the family and all...

That's not true! - others in his family graduated from school before this.

Sure, it was obedience school but hey - credit where credit is due dammit!

[Moonlight Graham]

22 hours ago, blackbird said:

I believe the climate changes and has always changed.  I do not believe man can control the climate in any way.  To me that is wishful thinking.  We are being conned and taxed for something that we cannot control.  Most of the world does not pay carbon taxes like we do and carbon taxes do not change people's use of essential things like natural gas for heating.  We still have to heat our homes in this cold country.

Science isn't based on "beliefs", that's what a religion is.  You have a brain so use it.  Darwinism is unforgiving.  Adapt or die.

[blackbird]

34 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Science isn't based on "beliefs", that's what a religion is.  You have a brain so use it.  Darwinism is unforgiving.  Adapt or die.

Climate change alarmism is not based on "science".

I would be happy to see your proof that man is causing excessive climate change.

Just saying man is the cause is not science.  That is false religion tied to worship of Mother Earth.

Darwinism is a false religion that many blindly follow.

Yes, man needs to adapt to climate change.  Not try to stop it.

[taxme]

On 10/31/2023 at 6:36 PM, CdnFox said:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/israeli-ministry-concept-paper-proposes-transferring-gaza-civilians-to-egypt-s-sinai-with-canada-as-a-possible-final-destination-1.6623901?cid=sm%3Atrueanthem%3A{{campaignname}}%3Atwitterpost&taid=654045e558ec2f0001896eee

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office played down the report compiled by the Intelligence Ministry as a hypothetical exercise -- a "concept paper." But its conclusions deepened long-standing Egyptian fears that Israel wants to make Gaza into Egypt's problem

In its report, the Intelligence Ministry -- a junior ministry that conducts research but does not set policy -- offered three alternatives "to effect a significant change in the civilian reality in the Gaza Strip in light of the Hamas crimes that led to the Sword of Iron war."

The document's authors deem this alternative to be the most desirable for Israel's security.

The document proposes moving Gaza's civilian population to tent cities in northern Sinai, then building permanent cities and an undefined humanitarian corridor. A security zone would be established inside Israel to block the displaced Palestinians from entering. The report did not say what would become of Gaza once its population is cleared out.

Egypt would not necessarily be the Palestinian refugees' last stop. The document speaks about Egypt, Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates supporting the plan either financially, or by taking in uprooted residents of Gaza as refugees and in the long term as citizens. Canada's "lenient" immigration practices also make it a potential resettlement target, the document adds.

Just what Canada needs is a bunch more new immigrants when we will have no housing for them nor jobs. Canada is taking in way too many new legal and illegal immigrants/.refugees that it can handle. 

With all of the fight now going on against climate change bringing in more people will only add to that climate crisis chaos, infrastructure and housing. Canada does not need more new immigrants/refugees, Canada needs less. But then, ask the politicians if they really give a crap. All of our wonderful and illustrious politicians seems to want to do is to just keep bringing in more and more and more of unneeded and unwanted new immigrants and refugees. Enough already. ? 

[August1991]

On 11/1/2023 at 12:34 PM, CdnFox said:

But we don't get along.

that's a lie you keep repeating despite the mountains of evidence to the contrary.  Canadians don't get along, we're in constant regional conflict, class conflict, language conflict, and now gender conflict, and we fight with the US all the time. And in the US the divisions are very frequently violent.

 

We Canadians get along. Been there, done that. 

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Survive? No, we get along. 

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Science isn't based on "beliefs", that's what a religion is.  You have a brain so use it.  Darwinism is unforgiving.  Adapt or die.

Science is for sale. Covid taught us that much. 

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, August1991 said:

We Canadians get along. Been there, done that. 

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Survive? No, we get along. 

no we don't, and apparently some of us are prepared to lie about it  

[I am Groot]

On 11/1/2023 at 9:41 PM, BeaverFever said:

No not even the moderate ones. But yes the non-moderate ones. So are you saying conservative views about women and sexual minorities have no place in Canada?  I might agree with you there.  Funny how today mainstream conservatives are trying to unite with Muslims for that same reason. 

I'm quite sure this isn't a serious attempt at an answer as you know full well the difference between conservative views on women - which are largely the same as liberal views on women - and the views of very religious people from the developing world. I never yet met a conservative, regardless of how far right, who believed women should cover their hair, never mind their faces at all times and wear voluminous robes to hide the shape of their bodies from lustful men. Nor that believed those who don't were whores. 

[I am Groot]

On 11/1/2023 at 9:37 PM, BeaverFever said:

Well I really don’t think the people knew what they were getting into. Hamas was elected just the one time over a decade ago as sort of a fluke and has held on through force since then. 

Possible. But I've seen nothing to indicate that there is unrest in Gaza directed against them. The few polls taken that I've found on google seem to indicate that if another election were held last month they probably would have won. Some indicate they might win against the PA in a 'palestinian wide' election, though that edge is narrow and often in the other direction.  There is, at any rate, a lot of support for them, as evidenced from the cheering crowds when they returned from their attack with hostages.

[I am Groot]

On 11/1/2023 at 1:50 PM, Gaétan said:

There is no justification for murdering innocent people or anybody innocent or not but i understand why there was a murder.

One can understand why they would attack Israelis without agreeing there was the slightest justification for the brutality inflicted on ordinary Israeli citizens; gang rape, torture, burning babies in ovens, chopping off the limbs of children or their mother's breasts for fun before cutting their throats or shooting them... None of this has the slightest hint of justification to any civilized human being. Ergo, the attackers were not civilized human beings. They were savages. So give some thought to the society, culture, and values that can spawn so many savages.

[SpankyMcFarland]

Leaving aside the ethnic cleansing angle I think Arab states should take as many Palestinians as want to leave Gaza and give them citizenship. It’s their region and their responsibility. Of course, these countries are not famous for welcoming immigrants from nearly anywhere. Israeli American businessman Sheldon Adelson, for example, was famous for being keen on open borders in the US to staff his hotels but equally keen on closed borders for African migrants to Israel. 

Edited November 5, 2023 by SpankyMcFarland

[eyeball]

10 hours ago, I am Groot said:

So give some thought to the society, culture, and values that can spawn so many savages.

That's exactly what people who understand what spawned the root causes of the conflict between these two brutalized peoples are doing.

If you choose to regard understanding as being the same as support you're only considering one side of the conflict without any thought given to what that is spawning in our society. 

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

That's exactly what people who understand what spawned the root causes of the conflict between these two brutalized peoples are doing.

If you choose to regard understanding as being the same as support you're only considering one side of the conflict without any thought given to what that is spawning in our society. 

 

If you choose to disguise your support as 'attempting to be understanding' then prepared to be called on it.  Nobody believes that bullshit.

I can understand the motives of a rapist but you'll never hear me say "well i understand why he did that, even if i don't support it'.   I would say his reasons are invalid and he had no right to do that. 

See the difference?

[Gaétan]

On 11/4/2023 at 10:15 AM, I am Groot said:

One can understand why they would attack Israelis without agreeing there was the slightest justification for the brutality inflicted on ordinary Israeli citizens; gang rape, torture, burning babies in ovens, chopping off the limbs of children or their mother's breasts for fun before cutting their throats or shooting them... None of this has the slightest hint of justification to any civilized human being. Ergo, the attackers were not civilized human beings. They were savages. So give some thought to the society, culture, and values that can spawn so many savages.

This is the mossad propaganda on the web but not true. I understand why Hamas murdered israelis it is because they keep them in prison in Gaza and they steal their land, and i understand why there was murder of palestinians, they want to kill them all to steal their territory but i don't support murder on either side.,

[myata]

On 11/4/2023 at 10:20 PM, CdnFox said:

you'll never hear me say "well i understand why he did that, even if i don't support it'.

Putin is a head of a criminal gang, on a state level that is involved in mass murder; destruction; attacks on civilians and civilian infrastructure; rape including gang; violation of every existing and imaginable law and convention. This is a fact.

Then, in the words of someone you know very well, Putin is 'genius'.

Now we will try to understand, and pare open your moral position and integrity. Can you support someone who called a serial killer and raper, 'genius'? Can you say, "well I understand why he (the killer) did that"?

Can you have it both ways: condemning serial killers if and when you don't like them, and understanding them when they are cute and genuis?

Edited November 6, 2023 by myata

[eyeball]

On 11/4/2023 at 7:20 PM, CdnFox said:

If you choose to disguise your support as 'attempting to be understanding' then prepared to be called on it.  Nobody believes that bullshit.

Understanding is just not same as support no matter how much you try to bullshit your way around it.

Is the US navy on hand to support Israel or understand it?