Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Posted (edited)
18 hours ago, eyeball said:

And then it was apparently scrapped because Britain's allies were more interested in accepting Nazi refugees instead of Jewish refugees.

I'm betting Britain knew exactly what would happen when they encouraged Israel's creation, it would help create the divisive conditions that would make securing the abundance of oil in the region easier in the new emerging struggle with the Soviets -  which is apparently also the reason we were more accepting of Nazi refugees.

That’s pretty twisted.  Be grateful that Israel exists as a bastion of progressivism.  If Jews aren’t the First Nations of Israel, who is?

Oh and before you go on with your BS anti-British rant, remember who was the first country to declare war on Hitler’s Germany.  

Edited by Zeitgeist
Posted
On 11/8/2023 at 4:01 PM, TreeBeard said:

You think the Nazis can be relied upon for an accurate portrayal of what actually happened?

And why not? 

Posted
19 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

 

This post is so incredible that one would assume it is parody.

Not so much parody, but more of what i have read and heard from the other side of the story. It never hurts to get the other side of the story. I am just a curious fellow. ?

  • Like 1
Posted
18 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

No country named Palestine has ever existed.

Well then, where did the Palestinian people come from and where did the Palestinian name come from? Was the name Palestine just recently dreamt up? 

Posted
13 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Antisemitism has a long history in the world.

With Christianity behind it most of the time.

 

15 minutes ago, blackbird said:

But then why claim aboriginals have certain valid claims to the land based on their history but not the Jews? 

I'm not, I'm questioning why history means nothing in the case of first nations and everything in the case of Jews.

Your answer, which seems to satisfy the standard for much of the justification and evidence for not treating the consequences of colonization the same everywhere is Christianity's bible where it says God gave the land to Jews some 4000 years ago.  For some reason you seem to think this factoid cancels out all the tough titties about all the countless other nations that have been conquered and relocated throughout history.

Hypocrisy much?

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

Posted
16 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Multiculturalism is fine as long as we bring in the right cultures and that excludes those who are hateful, women haters, islamo-fascists, terrorist supporters. Europeans are much more culturally compatible with Canadians than Middle East and Africa or Asia so why the majority of recent immigrants are from non-compatible cultures? The white culture of Canada should be preserved in my view.

There appears to be a concerted, or dare i say conspiracy, effort to try and make Canada become a non-white country in the next decade or so. Ever since old man Marxist Trudeau came on the scene, that buffoon gave us multiculturalism without any authority to do so by the Canadian people and now his punk kid is trying to keep the old mans program and agenda going.  

It is not hard to notice that if Canada has an immigration policy of bringing in approx. 80% of non-white people and approx. 20% white people, which has been going on for the past several decades now, it's not hard to see that white people will become a minority in their own white homeland. British/European immigration has almost come to an halt. 

Just look at those people that they show on TV at those citizenship swearing in ceremonies? They are practically all made up of people of color. I have no problem with non-white people coming to Canada, It is the number that i have a problem with. 

It's not that white people are not having babies. It is because Canada is being bombarded with non-white people who do bred like flies. Where a white family may have two or three children, non-white families have five or six children. Just look at a Muslim family. 

If this present day massive non-white immigration policy does not end very soon, where a moratorium should be implemented on immigration like now, then Canada is in for one big multicultural problem like we are seeing today by the Arabs and Jews in our streets in Canada. The signs are there, but is anybody listening or noticing? It sure does look like nobody is paying attention. Aw well. ?

 

Posted
15 hours ago, eyeball said:

With way less than a 1000 words.

image.thumb.png.7ae7b008b969ae1d0d46e2ac87d52627.png

How's that working out for you, the PLO was dismissed by the people, the voters, for a much harder line group Hamas, another known terrorist group...The same group that promised NO peace with Israel...The people have spoken in less than 1000 words, and they want death to all Jews globally...Nice bunch of people, one day the majority of Canadians will wake up and see them for what they are, terrorists.... 

We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.

Posted
17 hours ago, blackbird said:

Alright, sorry if I did not explain it properly.  I also don't entirely blame you for not having all this information.  It appears most people have no idea of the root causes and history of antisemitism.  Most know very little about it. 

Please bear with me.  I just found what appears to be a very excellent article describing the roots of antisemitism over the past 2,000 years.  It seems to include a wealth of information on the subject.  This may be the best article I have come across on the internet on it.  I am not sure if I should post part of it on here or just give the link.  I think it may be too long to post the whole article.  Some people get upset if I post something that is too long.

I will paste the first part of the article here, but please go to the link because the whole article gives extremely valuable information right up to the present on this subject.

quote

Anti-Semitism, (see Researcher’s Note) hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious or racial group. The term anti-Semitism was coined in 1879 by the German agitator Wilhelm Marr to designate the anti-Jewish campaigns underway in central Europe at that time. Nazi anti-Semitism, which culminated in the Holocaust, had a racist dimension in that it targeted Jews because of their supposed biological characteristics—even those who had themselves converted to other religions or whose parents were converts. This variety of anti-Jewish racism dates only to the emergence of so-called “scientific racism” in the 19th century and is different in nature from earlier anti-Jewish prejudices.

The persistence of anti-Semitism into the 21st century and the marked rise in anti-Semitic incidents in the early decades of the century have prompted new consideration of how to define and combat the phenomenon, which has both incorporated old tropes and taken on new forms.

The origins of Christian anti-Semitism

Anti-Semitism has existed to some degree wherever Jews have settled outside Palestine. In the ancient Greco-Roman world, religious differences were the primary basis for anti-Semitism. In the Hellenistic Age, for instance, Jews’ social segregation and their refusal to acknowledge the gods worshipped by other peoples aroused resentment among some pagans, particularly in the 1st century BCE–1st century CE. Unlike polytheistic religions, which acknowledge multiple gods, Judaism is monotheistic—it recognizes only one God. However, pagans saw Jews’ principled refusal to worship emperors as gods as a sign of disloyalty.

Although Jesus of Nazareth and his disciples were practicing Jews and Christianity is rooted in the Jewish teaching of monotheism, Judaism and Christianity became rivals soon after Jesus was crucified by Pontius Pilate, who executed him according to contemporary Roman practice. Religious rivalry initially was theological. It soon also became political.

unquote

Anti-Semitism | History, Meaning, Facts, & Examples | Britannica

I hope this helps.  I plan to examine this closely myself as it is full of valuable information.

Also, I would add that much of the professing Christian church has been one of the main sources of antisemitism in the past 2,000 years.  Antisemitism and any form of hate is entirely unbiblical and cannot be justified as it goes against the major command to love thy neighbour as thyself.

 

I believe that the Jews have always tried to distance themselves from gentiles. They appear to be wanting to stay in their own Jewish group of people only, and not mingle with other gentiles. Just my opinion. 

Christianity came about after Christ was executed at the behest of many Jewish religious leaders in Rome. Remember that it was Christ who went after the Jewish money-changers as he liked to call them and Jesus appeared to have paid the price for doing so. Pontius Pilate did what he was asked or maybe even forced to do. But that is only one side of the story that has been told. True or not? Who knows. 

 

Posted
1 hour ago, eyeball said:

With Christianity behind it most of the time.

That is what I said in a recent post and it is described in the link I gave on the history of antisemitism.  Did you read the Britannica article on the history of antisemitism?

 

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Your answer, which seems to satisfy the standard for much of the justification and evidence for not treating the consequences of colonization the same everywhere is Christianity's bible where it says God gave the land to Jews some 4000 years ago. 

I am not sure what you mean exactly in that sentence.  

The world is a complex place and the situation regarding Israel is unique in the sense all the countries around it are sworn enemies.  Israel is surrounded by terrorists whose only purpose for being is to kill Israelis and destroy the nation of Israel.   Israel is a special nation in that it is very tiny and the only real friend of the west in the middle east. 

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, taxme said:

I believe that the Jews have always tried to distance themselves from gentiles. They appear to be wanting to stay in their own Jewish group of people only, and not mingle with other gentiles.

That may be true to some degree.  But as the article in Britannica says, they have often been forced to live in ghettos in many countries and isolated from the rest of society.  They have been heavily discriminated against in Europe through the centuries.  So the gentiles certainly have a history of persecution and discrimination against the Jews.   Associating with a Jew was probably heavily frowned on.

1 hour ago, taxme said:

Remember that it was Christ who went after the Jewish money-changers as he liked to call them

Seems to me he overturned the tables of the money changers because they were set up in what was considered a place of worship, the temple.  I don't think he was opposed to money changers outside of that location.

 

1 hour ago, taxme said:

But that is only one side of the story that has been told. True or not? Who knows. 

I believe the accounts of what happened in the gospels as factual.  No reason not to.  There are four gospels each written by different authors which give accounts from different perspectives but all in general agreement.

"The four canonical gospels share the same basic outline of the life of Jesus: he begins his public ministry in conjunction with that of John the Baptist, calls disciples, teaches and heals and confronts the Pharisees, dies on the cross and is raised from the dead."   

Gospel - Wikipedia

Did you get a chance to read the history of antisemitism at the link I gave from Britannica?

Edited by blackbird
Posted
10 minutes ago, blackbird said:

The world is a complex place

Sometimes people just like to muddy the water to make it appear deep.

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

Posted
2 hours ago, eyeball said:

Christianity's bible where it says God gave the land to Jews some 4000 years ago. 

That is true.  In addition, the U.N. recognized the State of Israel after it was established in 1948 even though there are countries which refuse to recognize its right to exist.

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, taxme said:

There appears to be a concerted, or dare i say conspiracy, effort to try and make Canada become a non-white country in the next decade or so. Ever since old man Marxist Trudeau came on the scene, that buffoon gave us multiculturalism without any authority to do so by the Canadian people and now his punk kid is trying to keep the old mans program and agenda going.  

It is not hard to notice that if Canada has an immigration policy of bringing in approx. 80% of non-white people and approx. 20% white people, which has been going on for the past several decades now, it's not hard to see that white people will become a minority in their own white homeland. British/European immigration has almost come to an halt. 

Just look at those people that they show on TV at those citizenship swearing in ceremonies? They are practically all made up of people of color. I have no problem with non-white people coming to Canada, It is the number that i have a problem with. 

It's not that white people are not having babies. It is because Canada is being bombarded with non-white people who do bred like flies. Where a white family may have two or three children, non-white families have five or six children. Just look at a Muslim family. 

If this present day massive non-white immigration policy does not end very soon, where a moratorium should be implemented on immigration like now, then Canada is in for one big multicultural problem like we are seeing today by the Arabs and Jews in our streets in Canada. The signs are there, but is anybody listening or noticing? It sure does look like nobody is paying attention. Aw well. ?

 

I wouldn't put so much emphasis on white color of skin but rather the right culture. I have myself a very white (pale) skin and in comparison to over hundreds I yet to find anyone with whiter skin then myself though I would not judge or ban people based on skin color alone but what is under that skin. There are also many white Canadians who beat up their wives or girlfriends and hate or attack gay and lesbians.

Those with inferior cultures alien to our culture of respect for women and equality for all and respect for human rights and other religions and other sexual orientations must be banned from entering Canada no matter what skin color. It is true that based on this a good majority from Mid East and Africa and Asia will be banned but believe it or not there are also some who may have been born there (by no choice of their own) and be even more progressive than white Canadians when it comes to above criteria.

Edited by CITIZEN_2015
Posted
7 hours ago, I am Groot said:

You hate Jews. Everyone here knows it. You don't seem to be religious, so you're not acting out of religious zeal. That leaves the usual jealousy and anger. Everyone here knows it. You're not fooling anyone.

Canada's 'first nations' had no written language so no one knows anything about their history other than rumor and what can be discerned from the violence done to various bodies the archeologists dig up.

STFU with your i hate the Jews shit. What or why do you keep saying that I hate Jews? Yup, showing concern for the murdering of innocent Palestinian women and children sure does make me angry alright. But with you, you seem to be enjoying the massacre of innocent people. Everyone here knows that. You are not fooling anyone here. You are no better than Hamas. 

I do not think that native Indians gave a shit about anything. All they did was pretty much hunt, fish and make babies, and some tribes even fought and killed other Indians from other tribes. They say that they own all the land and it belongs to them. So, what they are pretty much saying is that they must own all the land in China also? Show us the deeds, people? 

 

Posted
2 hours ago, blackbird said:

That may be true to some degree.  But as the article in Britannica says, they have often been forced to live in ghettos in many countries and isolated from the rest of society.  They have been heavily discriminated against in Europe through the centuries.  So the gentiles certainly have a history of persecution and discrimination against the Jews.   Associating with a Jew was probably heavily frowned on.

Seems to me he overturned the tables of the money changers because they were set up in what was considered a place of worship, the temple.  I don't think he was opposed to money changers outside of that location.

 

I believe the accounts of what happened in the gospels as factual.  No reason not to.  There are four gospels each written by different authors which give accounts from different perspectives but all in general agreement.

"The four canonical gospels share the same basic outline of the life of Jesus: he begins his public ministry in conjunction with that of John the Baptist, calls disciples, teaches and heals and confronts the Pharisees, dies on the cross and is raised from the dead."   

Gospel - Wikipedia

Did you get a chance to read the history of antisemitism at the link I gave from Britannica?

I do not recall seeing any link. But it will probably be the same old gibberish that we are talking about now. The unfortunate thing for you and me and thee is that we were not there at the time to know as to what the hell happened in those days. All we have to go by is what others tell us. Should they be believed? Not sure about that one. Stories handed down thru time do get changed along the way. One can tell a story about whatever, and somewhere down the line, the story has somehow changed from it's original beginnings. Who knows what to believe anymore. 

Posted
2 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

I wouldn't put so much emphasis on white color of skin but rather the right culture. I have myself a very white (pale) skin and in comparison to over hundreds I yet to find anyone with whiter skin then myself though I would not judge or ban people based on skin color alone but what is under that skin. There are also many white Canadians who beat up their wives or girlfriends and hate or attack gay and lesbians.

Those with inferior cultures alien to our culture of respect for women and equality for all and respect for human rights and other religions and other sexual orientations must be banned from entering Canada no matter what skin color. It is true that based on this a good majority from Mid East and Africa and Asia will be banned but believe it or not there are also some who may have been born there (by no choice of their own) and be even more progressive than white Canadians when it comes to above criteria.

No one can say that white people are perfect people. They do have their faults also. As i explained and said already. There are just too many non-white immigrants and refugees coming to Canada, and that disturbs me immensely. I do not want o see my grand kids to grow up in a multicultural and diverse hell hole. A country that will not try and protect it's own culture is doomed to failure as a country.

Canada is well on it's way to be trying to racial genocide itself. A country with way too many cultures, languages, religions and traditions and then encourage those new refugees and immigrants to keep those mentioned above, and there is no need to assimilate is a recipe for disaster.  

Most of those new immigrants and refugees are bringing with them their religious beliefs and prejudices. We have way too many cultures are now celebrating their many cultures in our streets and parading around as if they were back in their own country that they left. For me, that is an insult and a finger to my white culture. What the hell did they come here for if they do not want to assimilate into my white country and start practicing our white heritage and culture. 

I could go on and on but i believe that i have said enough already about our immigration policy. It stinks. ?

  • Thanks 1
Posted
6 hours ago, taxme said:

And why not? 

It actually needs to be explained to you why Nazis can’t be trusted to give accurate history?  LOL

You really take advantage of the lack of moderation on this site to troll hard, eh?

Posted
5 hours ago, Army Guy said:

How's that working out for you, the PLO was dismissed by the people, the voters, for a much harder line group Hamas, another known terrorist group...The same group that promised NO peace with Israel...The people have spoken in less than 1000 words, and they want death to all Jews globally...Nice bunch of people, one day the majority of Canadians will wake up and see them for what they are, terrorists.... 

They will talk openly about genocide, then they will commit a massive terrorist attack targeting women and children, burning them to death, and then when they end up on TV in a real interview, taking actual questions, they'll say "That's not islam. islam doesn't allow for the deaths of women, children, and non-combatants."

Terrorism and killing children in what Palestinians do. It's what Pakistanis do - it's normal there. It's what Afghanis do. It's what they did in Iraq and Syria just a few years ago. In Saudi and a dozen other countries women get spit on, beaten up and raped for not wearing a Hijab, in Iran women get whipped and sent to jail for taking of their hijabs, in a dozen muslim countries you can still get the death penalty for apostasy, even "systemic genocidal rape" is an islamic strategy for ethically cleansing.

Quote

The people have spoken in less than 1000 words, and they want death to all Jews globally...Nice bunch of people, one day the majority of Canadians will wake up and see them for what they are, terrorists.... 

If they finally manage to kill all the Jews then Hindus will next. They tried to exterminate Hinduism for centuries. The Sikhs are a smaller population but the muslims are scared of them, so they'll be after the Hindus. Etc, etc...

If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed.

Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid.

Ex-Canadian since April 2025

Posted
3 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

It actually needs to be explained to you why Nazis can’t be trusted to give accurate history?  LOL

You really take advantage of the lack of moderation on this site to troll hard, eh?

Look who's calling other people Nazis now lol.

Leftards are the party of virulent anti-Semitism, you back Nazis in Ukraine or pretend that they don't exist, you issued a gesundheitspass, run political police forces, cheat on elections, criminalize election skepticism when you 'win', you have militias like the KKK/BLM/Antifa and now Hamas supporters, etc.

  • Thanks 1

If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed.

Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid.

Ex-Canadian since April 2025

Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, taxme said:

But it will probably be the same old gibberish that we are talking about now

No.  I gave a link to Encyclopedia Britannica.  This encyclopedia has been published since 1768.  It is not gibberish but is probably a highly respected source of information.

Anti-Semitism | History, Meaning, Facts, & Examples | Britannica

The article says in part:

"Anti-Semitism in modern Europe

The end of the Middle Ages brought little change in Jews’ position in Europe, and the Catholic Reformation renewed anti-Jewish legislation and reinforced the system of ghettoized segregation in Roman Catholic countries. Jews remained subject to occasional massacres, such as those that occurred during wars between Eastern Orthodox Ukrainians and Roman Catholic Poles in the mid-17th century, which rivaled the worst massacres of Jews in the Middle Ages. Periodic persecutions of Jews in western Europe continued until the late 18th century, when the Enlightenment changed their position, at least in the West. It did not necessarily reduce anti-Semitism. Although the major Enlightenment figures championed the light of reason in debunking what they regarded as the superstitions of Christian belief, their thinking did not lead to any greater acceptance of Jews. Instead of holding Jews responsible for the Crucifixion, Enlightenment thinkers blamed them for the advent of Christianity and for the injustices and cruelty committed by followers of monotheistic religions. Some of the most prominent, including Denis Diderot and Voltaire, pilloried the Jews as a group alienated from society who practiced a primitive and superstitious religion.

Until the French Revolution of 1789, the status of Jews in Europe remained tenuous. Treated as outsiders, they had few civil rights. They were taxed as a community, not as individuals. Exclusion from the larger society reinforced their religious identity and strengthened their communal institutions, which served judicial and quasi-governmental functions. In the French Revolution, with its promise of liberty, equality, and fraternity, the rights of citizenship were extended to Jews. Still, respect and rights were conditioned on the willingness of Jews to abandon their age-old customs and their communal identity. This was the meaning of the slogan “To the Jews as individuals everything, to the Jews as a people, nothing.”

France was the vanguard of the movement that gave civic and legal equality to the Jews. Napoleon’s conquest of the German states led to emancipation in some of them, but after his defeat, Jews faced a series of legal setbacks. Full emancipation of Jews throughout Germany came only with the unification of Germany in 1871.

Even in France itself, emancipation did not end anti-Semitism but merely transformed it. With the emergence of nationalism as the defining factor in European society in the 19th century, anti-Semitism acquired a racial rather than a religious character as ethnically homogeneous peoples decried the existence in their midst of “alien” Jewish elements. Pseudoscientific theories asserting that the Jews were inferior to the so-called Aryan “race” gave anti-Semitism new respectability and popular support, especially in countries where Jews could be made scapegoats for existing social or political grievances. In this new climate, anti-Semitism became a powerful political tool, as politicians were quick to discover. In the 1890s Karl Lueger won the mayoralty of Vienna—a city of diverse culture and many Jews—with his anti-Semitic campaigns. In both Germany and Austria in the late 19th century, anti-Semitism became an organized movement with its own political parties."

Edited by blackbird
Posted
3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Look who's calling other people Nazis now lol.

Leftards are the party of virulent anti-Semitism, you back Nazis in Ukraine or pretend that they don't exist, you issued a gesundheitspass, run political police forces, cheat on elections, criminalize election skepticism when you 'win', you have militias like the KKK/BLM/Antifa and now Hamas supporters, etc.

Careful dealing with TreeBeard.  I think he deliberately tries to taunt or annoy people on here. 

  • Like 1
Posted
4 hours ago, taxme said:

No one can say that white people are perfect people. They do have their faults also. As i explained and said already. There are just too many non-white immigrants and refugees coming to Canada, and that disturbs me immensely. I do not want o see my grand kids to grow up in a multicultural and diverse hell hole. A country that will not try and protect it's own culture is doomed to failure as a country.

Canada is well on it's way to be trying to racial genocide itself. A country with way too many cultures, languages, religions and traditions and then encourage those new refugees and immigrants to keep those mentioned above, and there is no need to assimilate is a recipe for disaster.  

Most of those new immigrants and refugees are bringing with them their religious beliefs and prejudices. We have way too many cultures are now celebrating their many cultures in our streets and parading around as if they were back in their own country that they left. For me, that is an insult and a finger to my white culture. What the hell did they come here for if they do not want to assimilate into my white country and start practicing our white heritage and culture. 

I could go on and on but i believe that i have said enough already about our immigration policy. It stinks. ?

Well, at least we agree about something.

  • Like 1
Posted
5 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

It actually needs to be explained to you why Nazis can’t be trusted to give accurate history?  LOL

You really take advantage of the lack of moderation on this site to troll hard, eh?

Actually you're quite wrong.  (shocking i know).

The nazis were typical germans in that they kept METICULOUS records and journals during the war.  Whether it was flattering or not they wrote it down as accurately and in as much detail as they could in most cases, and we actually learn more about many parts of the war reading german accounts and records than we do reading russian or other allied accounts including our own

Of all the forces in world war 2 - the nazis are actually the most reliable and consistant source of info there is,

There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data

Posted (edited)
7 hours ago, blackbird said:

No.  I gave a link to Encyclopedia Britannica.  This encyclopedia has been published since 1768.  It is not gibberish but is probably a highly respected source of information.

Anti-Semitism | History, Meaning, Facts, & Examples | Britannica

The article says in part:

"Anti-Semitism in modern Europe

The end of the Middle Ages brought little change in Jews’ position in Europe, and the Catholic Reformation renewed anti-Jewish legislation and reinforced the system of ghettoized segregation in Roman Catholic countries. Jews remained subject to occasional massacres, such as those that occurred during wars between Eastern Orthodox Ukrainians and Roman Catholic Poles in the mid-17th century, which rivaled the worst massacres of Jews in the Middle Ages. Periodic persecutions of Jews in western Europe continued until the late 18th century, when the Enlightenment changed their position, at least in the West. It did not necessarily reduce anti-Semitism. Although the major Enlightenment figures championed the light of reason in debunking what they regarded as the superstitions of Christian belief, their thinking did not lead to any greater acceptance of Jews. Instead of holding Jews responsible for the Crucifixion, Enlightenment thinkers blamed them for the advent of Christianity and for the injustices and cruelty committed by followers of monotheistic religions. Some of the most prominent, including Denis Diderot and Voltaire, pilloried the Jews as a group alienated from society who practiced a primitive and superstitious religion.

Until the French Revolution of 1789, the status of Jews in Europe remained tenuous. Treated as outsiders, they had few civil rights. They were taxed as a community, not as individuals. Exclusion from the larger society reinforced their religious identity and strengthened their communal institutions, which served judicial and quasi-governmental functions. In the French Revolution, with its promise of liberty, equality, and fraternity, the rights of citizenship were extended to Jews. Still, respect and rights were conditioned on the willingness of Jews to abandon their age-old customs and their communal identity. This was the meaning of the slogan “To the Jews as individuals everything, to the Jews as a people, nothing.”

France was the vanguard of the movement that gave civic and legal equality to the Jews. Napoleon’s conquest of the German states led to emancipation in some of them, but after his defeat, Jews faced a series of legal setbacks. Full emancipation of Jews throughout Germany came only with the unification of Germany in 1871.

Even in France itself, emancipation did not end anti-Semitism but merely transformed it. With the emergence of nationalism as the defining factor in European society in the 19th century, anti-Semitism acquired a racial rather than a religious character as ethnically homogeneous peoples decried the existence in their midst of “alien” Jewish elements. Pseudoscientific theories asserting that the Jews were inferior to the so-called Aryan “race” gave anti-Semitism new respectability and popular support, especially in countries where Jews could be made scapegoats for existing social or political grievances. In this new climate, anti-Semitism became a powerful political tool, as politicians were quick to discover. In the 1890s Karl Lueger won the mayoralty of Vienna—a city of diverse culture and many Jews—with his anti-Semitic campaigns. In both Germany and Austria in the late 19th century, anti-Semitism became an organized movement with its own political parties."

Antisemitism in the region we now call Europe goes back for thousands of years. You have summarized the history nicely. Thank you for doing that, because the more we know the truth the better we understand the reason why things are as they are now.

Due to the occupation of Jerusalem by the Roman Empire, Jews were permitted to travel and live anywhere within it. Except for actual Rome of course. Kind of like EU today. They fled into Europe and then the history of antisemitism as you gave follows.

But the Roman experiment in multiculturalism failed, as separated groups compete and identify primarily by race. It ironically increases racism. Where a monoculture, while arguably less free, eradicates the problem by replacing "race" with "nation".

Edited by OftenWrong
  • Thanks 1

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Tell a friend

    Love Repolitics.com - Political Discussion Forums? Tell a friend!
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      10,908
    • Most Online
      1,403

    Newest Member
    miawilliams3232
    Joined
  • Recent Achievements

    • Benz earned a badge
      Dedicated
    • Videospirit earned a badge
      One Year In
    • Barquentine earned a badge
      Posting Machine
    • stindles earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • stindles earned a badge
      One Month Later
  • Recently Browsing

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...