bcsapper Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 57 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Aaaand.... looks like I was wrong... they actually did something. The teacher was finally sent home - so there's your brave gesture @bcsapper I'm impressed.https://www.blogto.com/city/2023/03/oakville-school-teacher-controversy/ Belatedly so, one arm forced up the back until a handful of crewcut is possible. And according to this: Last week, Lemieux told the Star that her comments in a recent New York Post article were accurate, and that she does not identify as transgender. Instead, she says she was born intersex and struggles with a medical condition classified as "gigantomastia," which has resulted in an excessive growth of breast tissue. They aren't fake. Or they are, and she's a bigger jerk than either of us thought. Occam's razor again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 10 minutes ago, bcsapper said: They aren't fake. Or they are, and she's a bigger jerk than either of us thought. Occam's razor again. My money is on option two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 1 hour ago, bcsapper said: They aren't fake. Or they are, and she's a bigger jerk than either of us thought. Yeah.... I'm pretty sure this made it easy for the "consultant" ($$$) to go with the "walk them out the door" option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspektiv Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 On 3/3/2023 at 5:15 PM, bcsapper said: Or they are, and she's a bigger jerk than either of us thought. She's trolling the system. I think its great, personally. They can't fire her, as she could sue for discrimination, and they can't misgender or or in any way remove her from her post. That folks, is what you call checkmate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 12 minutes ago, Perspektiv said: She's trolling the system. I think its great, personally. As bcsapper and The Sun have pointed out, this troll is impacting the children. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspektiv Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 46 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: As bcsapper and The Sun have pointed out, this troll is impacting the children. Thats sad, but we are allowing or opening the box to such trolling with the current system that we have, affirming such people the moment they state claims and no questions or ID can be requested. I am not surprised that some would use it to game the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 7 minutes ago, Perspektiv said: 1. Thats sad, but we are allowing or opening the box to such trolling with the current system that we have, affirming such people the moment they state claims and no questions or ID can be requested. 2. I am not surprised that some would use it to game the system. 1. ID? Anyway, if you have an alternative please suggest. 2. I am - because the troll is putting their entire career and livelihood I peril to make a private troll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspektiv Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: 2. I am - because the troll is putting their entire career and livelihood I peril to make a private troll. She can file a lawsuit. Precisely why they have "fired" her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 8 hours ago, Perspektiv said: She can file a lawsuit. Precisely why they have "fired" her. That's not an answer to what I said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 13 hours ago, Perspektiv said: She's trolling the system. I think its great, personally. They can't fire her, as she could sue for discrimination, and they can't misgender or or in any way remove her from her post. That folks, is what you call checkmate. They can fire her and pay her out. Happens all the time in business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 3 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: They can fire her and pay her out. Happens all the time in business. Pay out until retirement with pension? I don't think that's a good precedent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 23 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Pay out until retirement with pension? I don't think that's a good precedent. The maximum payout in a severance for wrongful dismissal is two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 7 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: The maximum payout in a severance for wrongful dismissal is two years. For a union job? And if she went to the courts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 45 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: For a union job? And if she went to the courts? It's two years under labour laws. But the issue is she would probably sue for some kind of human rights violation. That would have to be proven, so it depends on the reasons given for termination. If the reason was "because she was wearing prophylactic boobies in class" she would probably win. That's why employers need to invent other reasons. Like something they did before. It's hard to imagine this person didn't cause problems in the past and then suddenly did something on this scale. IE shit disturbers are usually already known. But that would be for employment lawyers to figure out. Somebody should have given Samfiru a call... What they've done is keep this clown at home but still continue to pay them per the contract. I think they can still sue the school board eventually if they are not called back to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 Just now, OftenWrong said: It's two years under labour laws. But the issue is she would probably sue for some kind of human rights violation. That would have to be proven, so it depends on the reasons given for termination. If the reason was "because she was wearing prophylactic boobies in class" she would probably win. That's why employers need to invent other reasons. Like something they did before. It's hard to imagine this person didn't cause problems in the past and then suddenly did something on this scale. IE shit disturbers are usually already known. But that would be for employment lawyers to figure out. Somebody should have given Samfiru a call... What they've done is keep this clown at home but still continue to pay them per the contract. I think they can still sue the school board eventually if they are not called back to work. As you point out this isn't a straightforward strategy. The Board, and taxpayer, will have to pay up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcsapper Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 20 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: As you point out this isn't a straightforward strategy. The Board, and taxpayer, will have to pay up. I wonder what they'll do next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 1 hour ago, OftenWrong said: If the reason was "because she was wearing prophylactic boobies in class" she would probably win. That should be enough reason to fire her. If not, the provincial laws need to be changed. Grooming children for LGBTQ ideology should be illegal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 12 minutes ago, blackbird said: That should be enough reason to fire her. If not, the provincial laws need to be changed. Grooming children for LGBTQ ideology should be illegal. A few years ago it would have been, but not today. Once the lawyers get involved, all is lost. This individual was a hurtful troll in many ways and also cast harm on the LGBTx community, in their ability to be seen as legitimate. But then, the kids got the message when our Prime Minister appeared on a Drag Queen reality show. The whole "Drag Queen" concept should be offensive to LGBTQ types. But it's not... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironstone Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 I've finally seen a picture of this person without the "costume" on. Being put on paid leave isn't actually the same as being fired outright so for the time being this guy is still getting paid. If he dresses normally outside the school it makes me still wonder if this is an extreme kind of trolling or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 3 minutes ago, ironstone said: If he dresses normally outside the school it makes me still wonder if this is an extreme kind of trolling or not. Of course it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 I'll Be Back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 This is why I love Canada. We're shitting bricks over fake titties instead of excusing daily school shootings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 On 3/6/2023 at 3:01 PM, herbie said: This is why I love Canada. We're shitting bricks over fake titties instead of excusing daily school shootings. Good point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 57 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: Good point Good... two points 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 On 1/25/2023 at 3:02 PM, Michael Hardner said: Incessant whining about nothing is protected by law and the rest of us have to hear it 24/7. You can always not read the posts Mikey. What this POS did is immoral and shows zero respect or honor. Hey...just like you Mikey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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