ironstone Posted September 5, 2022 Report Posted September 5, 2022 14 hours ago, robosmith said: Hillary wouldn't know where to FIND Bleachbit, cause it's not at Walmart. Smashing cell phones with hammers is often done to retire old phones. Of course an expert could still recover any data if they wanted it bad enough. ? Seriously, State personnel SENT those emails to Hillary over the Internet (NIPRnet) and the ONLY classified markings were (C) for confidential appointment lists. Without the official markings (which are ON TRUMP'S DOCUMENTS), there was NO provable intent by Hillary to mishandle classified documents. That's why SHE wasn't charged. You just LEGITIMIZED the destruction of evidence that was under subpoena. I can only imagine the media firestorm that would have been whipped up had Trump done the same thing and destroyed evidence. 1 1 Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
Aristides Posted September 5, 2022 Report Posted September 5, 2022 Sure it is is propaganda, to counter the conspiracy propaganda that they didn't find anything. The propaganda coming from the likes of Liz Wheeler. Quote
ironstone Posted September 5, 2022 Report Posted September 5, 2022 13 hours ago, Rebound said: Unlike TFG, Biden’s published his tax returns. What great wealth is in there? We all know that Joe is TBH, The Big Guy that Hunter refers to in all those emails. Money get's funneled to Daddy. If you truly do read the NYT daily I can forgive you for not being aware of any and all Biden scandals. There have been plenty over all those years. There was even a time many years ago that the MSM called him out on his bad habit of plagiarism. You're likely in the dark about Hunter Biden being paid huge sums of money by hostile foreign governments. Burisma is an Ukrainian oil company that pays him from 50-80 grand per month to sit on the board of directors. Hunter has zero experience in that field. That's just one example. Why would anyone want to pay this useless drug addict so much money? The answer is, access to the President . Hunter Biden: What was he doing in China and Ukraine? - BBC News FBI agent Timothy Thibault hid intel from whistleblower on Hunter, Joe Biden (nypost.com) FBI...running interference for the Biden's. Joe also has a brother James who is heavily involved in the "family business". Joe Biden's BROTHER James is dragged into Chinese payments scandal | Daily Mail Online Pay to play. 1 Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
Rebound Posted September 5, 2022 Report Posted September 5, 2022 9 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: it being marked classified doesn't mean it was still classified Let me ask you something: As a so-called “patriot,” do you agree that, if the information pertains to either nuclear secrets or espionage methods, informants, etc… extremely clandestine things… should that material be made available to the American public in order to get Trump off the hook? Because if it is not classified, then it MUST be public. Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
Yzermandius19 Posted September 5, 2022 Report Posted September 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, Rebound said: Let me ask you something: As a so-called “patriot,” do you agree that, if the information pertains to either nuclear secrets or espionage methods, informants, etc… extremely clandestine things… should that material be made available to the American public in order to get Trump off the hook? Because if it is not classified, then it MUST be public. Trump will be off the hook regardless of whether it is made public or not Quote
dialamah Posted September 5, 2022 Report Posted September 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: Trump will be off the hook regardless of whether it is made public or not You didn't answer the question. Quote
robosmith Posted September 5, 2022 Report Posted September 5, 2022 9 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: it being marked classified doesn't mean it was still classified The SIGNED statement says there was no more documents which were MARKED CLASSIFIED. That was FALSE and obstruction. Lock him up. Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted September 5, 2022 Report Posted September 5, 2022 1 minute ago, robosmith said: The SIGNED statement says there was no more documents which were MARKED CLASSIFIED. That was FALSE and obstruction. Lock him up. Fake News Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted September 5, 2022 Report Posted September 5, 2022 17 minutes ago, dialamah said: You didn't answer the question. the question is stupid just because y'all don't like who is in charge of the executive branch doesn't mean they don't get to use the powers of the executive Quote
robosmith Posted September 5, 2022 Report Posted September 5, 2022 1 hour ago, ironstone said: You just LEGITIMIZED the destruction of evidence that was under subpoena. Where? AFAIK, the server was ordered wiped well before the subpoena and when the COMPANY which MANAGED it figured out it hadn't been done, they went ahead and did it. You're lying when you say Hillary did any of that after a subpoena was issued Quote I can only imagine the media firestorm that would have been whipped up had Trump done the same thing and destroyed evidence. .He did the same thing. But his classified documents were CLEARLY MARKED. I think it's funny that you believe Hillary knew how to Bleachbit or even what it is. Quote
WestCanMan Posted September 5, 2022 Report Posted September 5, 2022 14 hours ago, robosmith said: *I* have no knowledge from where the nuclear secrets allegation came; I just know that it doesn't matter wrt the crimes being investigated. It came from fake news, like I said at the beginning. Quote You said the laptop was 100% legit. You've posted NO evidence proving that nor that the FBI lied about it being Russian disinformation. Anything that's currently on the laptop COULD BE Russians tampering with it since the chain of custody is garbage. Now you know that you're lying and playing stupid. Nothing on the laptop has ever been disputed since the time that the FBI admitted that they lied. All that the Dems and FBI do when serious questions are raised about how and why Hunter pulled in millions of dollars from Ukraine and China is pretend to hear nothing. Quote Unlike the right wing propaganda sites, CNN actually has the journalistic ethical principles to FIRE managers and reporters who don't conform to professional ethical standards. OMG, are you kidding me? Did they fire everyone who said "Mostly peaceful protest"? Did they fire everyone who said "Trump referred to immigrants as animals"? CNN is on the wrong side of every story: Sandman, Smollett, M Brown, Collusion, collusion V2.0, etc. They've never been right. It's their job to mislead. In the week before Ghislaine Maxwell was sentenced, when everyone in the world felt like she was going to name names, CNN fired 2 pedophiles. CNN has been around for about 2,100 weeks, since 1980. Care to guess how many pedophiles they outed in the other 2,199 weeks....? Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
robosmith Posted September 5, 2022 Report Posted September 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: Fake News Prove it. Your mere claims mean NOTHING because you've thrown them around gratuitously. Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted September 5, 2022 Report Posted September 5, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, robosmith said: Prove it. Your mere claims mean NOTHING because you've thrown them around gratuitously. you prove it you made the claim the burden of proof is on the positive claimant and your claims mean nothing because they are just Trump Hater NPC talking points you parrot Edited September 5, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote
robosmith Posted September 5, 2022 Report Posted September 5, 2022 10 hours ago, Infidel Dog said: Liz Wheeler makes some interesting points on how the way the documents are strewn over Trump's carpet tells you this is obvious propaganda. That pretty much all we can reasonably deduce about it based on who it's coming from: It was in a document filed with the court in response to Trump's special master filing. Ex-FBI officials have stated it is COMMON to take pictures of evidence that way. Are you an expert? Ever attended an FBI evidence collection operation? What is Wheeler's expertise in that area? I'm guessing NONE. Quote
robosmith Posted September 5, 2022 Report Posted September 5, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: you prove it you made the claim the burden of proof is on the positive claimant and your claims mean nothing because they are just Trump Hater NPC talking points you parrot I posted EVIDENCE from the nations premier news source. You don't get to dismiss it with MERE PERSONAL CLAIMS or because you didn't read what it says. Where is YOUR evidence? If you try that again, you will be ignored. Edited September 5, 2022 by robosmith Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted September 5, 2022 Report Posted September 5, 2022 1 minute ago, robosmith said: I posted EVIDENCE from the nations premier news source. You don't get to dismiss it with MERE PERSONAL CLAIMS or because you didn't read what it says. Where is YOUR evidence? your news source provided no evidence and that news source is not impartial when it comes to Trump like you, they cannot see straight and are blinded by TDS Quote
robosmith Posted September 5, 2022 Report Posted September 5, 2022 10 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: the classified material was returned the stuff he kept was declassified therefore there was no lie in his affidavit So you didn't read where it said the statement was about "MARKED CLASSIFIED" documents. Quote
robosmith Posted September 5, 2022 Report Posted September 5, 2022 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: your news source provided no evidence and that news source is not impartial when it comes to Trump like you, they cannot see straight and are blinded by TDS No evidence to believe ^this OPINION. ? Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted September 5, 2022 Report Posted September 5, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, robosmith said: No evidence to believe ^this OPINION. ? the New York Times went on and on about Russian collusion for years they were wrong then and they are wrong now they hate Trump and buy into all sorts of bullshit claims about him any objective observer is well aware of their lack of credibility and obvious bias the NYT says Orange Man Bad? what else is new? they've cried wolf so many times, why should I believe them now? Edited September 5, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote
Infidel Dog Posted September 5, 2022 Report Posted September 5, 2022 40 minutes ago, robosmith said: It was in a document filed with the court in response to Trump's special master filing. Ex-FBI officials have stated it is COMMON to take pictures of evidence that way. Are you an expert? Ever attended an FBI evidence collection operation? What is Wheeler's expertise in that area? I'm guessing NONE. I'm an expert in knowing I've never seen FBI agents strew documents out on the floor of an ex President's home for public display before. Just as you appear to be an expert on pretending it's common. It was display for propaganda. Feel free to ignore the obvious if you choose to but don't expect that nonsense from the rest of us. Quote
Infidel Dog Posted September 5, 2022 Report Posted September 5, 2022 (edited) And as Liz Wheeler said, now we know why the FBI were so upset that Trump kept the CCTV footage. They don't want us watching them bending their fat asses over Trump's carpet organizing a display for the Associated Press. BTW did your FBI guy (you didn't offer a link to) also tell you it was common to leak a picture like that to the AP? Edited September 5, 2022 by Infidel Dog Quote
Rebound Posted September 5, 2022 Report Posted September 5, 2022 4 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: he gave back all the classified stuff they wanted other files too it's 100% negotiable it's not even a criminal offense to have that material or to not return in it as fast as they want you are trying to turn a paperwork error into a felony when it's not even a misdemeanor because you're a partisan hack According to what? The Presidential Records Act says he isn’t allowed to have ANY of it. It belongs to the People, and must be given to the National Archives. Again, what Federal Law says the ex-President gets to “negotiate” when handed a subpoena? Where does the law say that an affidavit that is signed “Under Penalty of Perjury” (a felony), can be an outright lie? I’m telling you what THE FEDERAL LAW says. You can look it up and read it. You’re telling us what a bunch of right-wing liars are telling you. They’ve been lying to you for years and you refuse to believe it. Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
Infidel Dog Posted September 5, 2022 Report Posted September 5, 2022 (edited) It's good you're such a fan of the law, Rebound. The story below will have you dancing around like this , of course. Quote A federal judge has handed former President Donald Trump a court victory. U.S. District Judge from the Southern District of Florida Judge Aileen M. Cannon on Monday ordered that a special master be appointed to review records seized last month by the FBI during a raid at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate. She ordered that an independent third-party be appointed to “review the seized property, manage assertions of privilege and make recommendations thereon, and evaluate claims for return of property.” https://conservativebrief.com/judge-39-66204/ Edited September 5, 2022 by Infidel Dog 1 Quote
robosmith Posted September 5, 2022 Report Posted September 5, 2022 38 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said: I'm an expert in knowing I've never seen FBI agents strew documents out on the floor of an ex President's home for public display before. Just as you appear to be an expert on pretending it's common. It was display for propaganda. Feel free to ignore the obvious if you choose to but don't expect that nonsense from the rest of us. I'm NOT an expert and I never claimed to be one. I heard ex-FBI agents say it is COMMON to take pictures of evidence that way. You've "never seen" it because you've never had the chance, but for some reason you're pretending that means something. Can't imagine why you believe your personal experience or imagination is relevant. Quote
Infidel Dog Posted September 5, 2022 Report Posted September 5, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, robosmith said: I heard ex-FBI agents say it is COMMON to take pictures of evidence that way. . They're either misleading you or you're leaving out context. Give us a link. You're leaving out some context for sure. The watermark on the bottom of the pic says AP. Who authorized leaking it to the media? It wasn't this guy: Edited September 5, 2022 by Infidel Dog 1 Quote
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