Question for Trudeau Haters....

DogOnPorch · August 19, 2022

Just now, WestCanMan said:

Funny how people can still regurgitate the known lies about 2016 collusion but talking about election integrity in 2020 gets you an automatic ban on social media.

We are becoming more and more of a fascist state all the time but the people with TDS and an addiction to covid fear porn are cheering it on.

Part of the whole Communist equity-victimhood thing. Every victim needs an oppressor. Using a man-made virus to instill panic appears to be part of the plan. It was just deadly enough to make you do ANYTHING to apparently fight it. I'd hazard that the ultimate goal of the whole exercise was to accomplish the following:

1. Everybody except the 'exempted' get injected with a mystery drug...results yet to be realized.

2. Usher-in a cashless society. No physical money.

3. Force the need to be part of a global social credit/electronic ID system. Can't live without it! Don't leave home.

4. Reserved for further fascism. I can't know all of their goals. Perhaps you can add some.

Boges · August 19, 2022

9 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

Please cite previous years before Covid wherebpeople were encouraged and given access to take a rapid-test, any time they had a headache or sniffles.

That is the most fundamental issue here, health relativism

Was one available?

Zeitgeist · August 19, 2022

44 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

Part of the whole Communist equity-victimhood thing. Every victim needs an oppressor. Using a man-made virus to instill panic appears to be part of the plan. It was just deadly enough to make you do ANYTHING to apparently fight it. I'd hazard that the ultimate goal of the whole exercise was to accomplish the following:

1. Everybody except the 'exempted' get injected with a mystery drug...results yet to be realized.

2. Usher-in a cashless society. No physical money.

3. Force the need to be part of a global social credit/electronic ID system. Can't live without it! Don't leave home.

4. Reserved for further fascism. I can't know all of their goals. Perhaps you can add some.

As we move closer to 2030 I worry about what other “crises” will be manufactured or exaggerated to have total control over the population. No doubt climate change is now the big excuse.

We can only hope that the voices of opposition will grow. It’s already come from truckers and farmers. Travellers are getting more vocal about the Chinese-style ArriveCAN app that’s a total violation of privacy and constitutional rights. Inflation is waking up most people now. Once the simple pleasures become unaffordable (happening now), the zombies are finally putting down their bongs. Young people who aren’t ensconced in legacy media are starting to drive the opposition.

Zeitgeist · August 19, 2022

1 hour ago, DogOnPorch said:

She walked over a lot of folks to get into that chair. A very nasty industry if you ask me.

On point lately has been Crowder...so they kicked his rear-end off of YouTube for allowing Kari Lake to speak, thinking it would hurt him and his show. His tech-alternate channel on Rumble had triple his normal number of viewers. And Rumble pays better...lol.

That’s what’s happening. Journalistic authority is no longer on MSM. It’s shifting to sources that don’t impose a political agenda on content.

DogOnPorch · August 19, 2022

38 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

As we move closer to 2030 I worry about what other “crises” will be manufactured or exaggerated to have total control over the population. No doubt climate change is now the big excuse.

We can only hope that the voices of opposition will grow. It’s already come from truckers and farmers. Travellers are getting more vocal about the Chinese-style ArriveCAN app that’s a total violation of privacy and constitutional rights. Inflation is waking up most people now. Once the simple pleasures become unaffordable (happening now), the zombies are finally putting down their bongs. Young people who aren’t ensconced in legacy media are starting to drive the opposition.

Did you notice who was exempted? And I don't mean those falling down ill already.

The police.

Why?

Well...their union if you believe the CBC. But it was very unlikely that they'd be treated like nurses or truckers seeing how much Trudeau needs them to cling to his dictatorial powers.

Edited August 19, 2022 by DogOnPorch

Goddess · August 19, 2022

1 hour ago, DogOnPorch said:

Well...their union if you believe the CBC. But it was very unlikely that they'd be treated like nurses or truckers seeing how much Trudeau needs them to cling to his dictatorial powers.

BINGO.

I think this is why there was a fair number of police who were conflicted about having to beat people at the truckers convoy. The police fought the mandates for themselves. And won. Here were truckers fighting the same mandates and Trudeau hires the police to beat them up.

It's a bizarro world we live in these days.

TreeBeard · August 19, 2022

3 minutes ago, Goddess said:

The police fought the mandates for themselves. And won.

Their union fought and lost. They were put on leave like all other public service employees. The mandate was lifted in June 2022, so now the few conspritards could come back to work.

Where did you get the information that the RCMP didn’t need to be vaccinated?

Edited August 19, 2022 by TreeBeard

ExFlyer · August 19, 2022

9 minutes ago, Goddess said:

BINGO.

I think this is why there was a fair number of police who were conflicted about having to beat people at the truckers convoy. The police fought the mandates for themselves. And won. Here were truckers fighting the same mandates and Trudeau hires the police to beat them up.

It's a bizarro world we live in these days.

Very wrong. They lost.

Goddess · August 19, 2022

6 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Their union fought and lost. They were put on leave like all other public service employees. The mandate was lifted in June 2022, so now the few conspritards could come back to work.

Where did you get the information that the RCMP didn’t need to be vaccinated?

Sorry, I was talking about the OPS.

I see now they later lost.

Thanks for the correction.

WestCanMan · August 19, 2022

20 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Their union fought and lost. They were put on leave like all other public service employees. The mandate was lifted in June 2022, so now the few conspritards could come back to work.

Where did you get the information that the RCMP didn’t need to be vaccinated?

And who would you be to judge whether or not the "conspiratards" were wrong or right?

What source do you use? What stats do you look at? What's your level of training in virology, epidemiology, and biochemistry?

You don't know sweet FA dude, and for you to be judging without even bothering to do any background work is just stupid.

Goddess · August 19, 2022

7 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

And who would you be to judge whether or not the "conspiratards" were wrong or right?

What source do you use? What stats do you look at? What's your level of training in virology, epidemiology, and biochemistry?

You don't know sweet FA dude, and for you to be judging without even bothering to do any background work is just stupid.

I've asked him repeatedly to share his sources on the Trickle thread and he ran away instead.

I doubt you'll get an answer.

ExFlyer · August 19, 2022

14 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

And who would you be to judge whether or not the "conspiratards" were wrong or right?

What source do you use? What stats do you look at? What's your level of training in virology, epidemiology, and biochemistry?

You don't know sweet FA dude, and for you to be judging without even bothering to do any background work is just stupid.

Who said anything about right or wrong.

What was said is that they lost and had to comply.

Once again you are into the BS hinterland

WestCanMan · August 19, 2022

46 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Who said anything about right or wrong.

What was said is that they lost and had to comply.

Once again you are into the BS hinterland

He did, by calling them conspiratards.

If they weren't wrong about the vax then they aren't really 'tards, are they?

Don't worry if you still don't understand, pretty much everyone else does by now.

Also, they're back to work now, so they didn't exactly lose if they still have their jobs and they didn't take the Pflacebo, right?

My kid is 12 and I swear I wouldn't have to break all this down for him. Maybe there's just a kind of intelligence you're born with. Sorry ef.

ExFlyer · August 19, 2022

10 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

He did, by calling them conspiratards.

If they weren't wrong about the vax then they aren't really 'tards, are they?

Don't worry if you still don't understand, pretty much everyone else does by now.

Also, they're back to work now, so they didn't exactly lose if they still have their jobs and they didn't take the Pflacebo, right?

My kid is 12 and I swear I wouldn't have to break all this down for him. Maybe there's just a kind of intelligence you're born with. Sorry ef.

Oh, I understand alright. I understand that conspiracy theorist clubs have given you honorary membership

WestCanMan · August 19, 2022

Just now, ExFlyer said:

Oh, I understand alright. I understand that conspiracy theorist clubs have given you honorary membership

Oh, look, another post where EF has to resort to ad hominem attacks because he was hoisted on his own petard ?

TreeBeard · August 19, 2022

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

I've asked him repeatedly to share his sources on the Trickle thread and he ran away instead.

I doubt you'll get an answer.

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

And who would you be to judge whether or not the "conspiratards" were wrong or right?

What source do you use? What stats do you look at? What's your level of training in virology, epidemiology, and biochemistry?

You don't know sweet FA dude, and for you to be judging without even bothering to do any background work is just stupid.

Conspiratard seems to be an apt label for anyone who believes the conspiracies enough that they are so scared of a vaccine jab that they go on unpaid leave to avoid it.

Edited August 19, 2022 by TreeBeard

ExFlyer · August 19, 2022

45 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Oh, look, another post where EF has to resort to ad hominem attacks because he was hoisted on his own petard ?

Here is a petard for ya

Edited August 19, 2022 by ExFlyer

DogOnPorch · August 19, 2022

2 hours ago, Goddess said:

Sorry, I was talking about the OPS.

I see now they later lost.

Thanks for the correction.

A mandate that only requires that they attest to being in compliance.

The employees who fall under this mandate will not have to produce their proof of vaccination documents. Instead, it essentially relies on an honour system: employees will have to sign an attestation form certifying that they’ve had the necessary shots. These attestation forms will be audited and managers can ask for proof of vaccination at any time.

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"Did you get your shots?"

"Yes."

"Sign here."

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Yeah...they don't have to get the jab.

TreeBeard · August 20, 2022

1 hour ago, DogOnPorch said:

A mandate that only requires that they attest to being in compliance.

The employees who fall under this mandate will not have to produce their proof of vaccination documents. Instead, it essentially relies on an honour system: employees will have to sign an attestation form certifying that they’ve had the necessary shots. These attestation forms will be audited and managers can ask for proof of vaccination at any time.

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"Did you get your shots?"

"Yes."

"Sign here."

----------------------------------------

Yeah...they don't have to get the jab.

It was the same process for the entire federal public service. Attestations and audits.

OftenWrong · August 20, 2022

6 hours ago, Boges said:

Was one available?

I don’t understand why you think that’s important, but if it was, here’s what I think- We would have learned avwhole lot of scary information about viruses then too.

Which reminds me of that good, auld adage by one of my mentors, L. Pasteur OftenWrong-

“The only way to actually get rid of the virus, is stop looking at it.”

DogOnPorch · August 20, 2022

37 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

It was the same process for the entire federal public service. Attestations and audits.

Indeed.

Audit...heh. They'll get right on that.

Dougie93 · August 20, 2022

12 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

h Which reminds me of that good, auld adage by one of my mentors, L. Pasteur OftenWrong-

“The only way to actually get rid of the virus, is stop looking at it.”

heh

actually consistent with quantum mechanics

which states, that nothing actually exists until you witness it

see : Shroedinger's Cat

DogOnPorch · August 20, 2022

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

heh

actually consistent with quantum mechanics

which states, that nothing actually exists until you witness it

see : Shroedinger's Cat

Sort of like an audit...

???

TreeBeard · August 20, 2022

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

actually consistent with quantum mechanics

which states, that nothing actually exists until you witness it

see : Shroedinger's Cat

You sure that’s what that thought experiment showed?

Im thinking you need to maybe read a bit more about it. Hint: It doesn’t state that “nothing actually exists”.

OftenWrong · August 20, 2022

5 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

You sure that’s what that thought experiment showed?

Im thinking you need to maybe read a bit more about it. Hint: It doesn’t state that “nothing actually exists”.

It exists in an indeterminate state until observed.

So big whoopie