eyeball Posted June 7, 2022 Report Posted June 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: You put fear of one treatable disease with plenty of protective counter-measures above all other considerations. You mean like putting the fear of Marxists and dictators taking over the world despite democracy, trillions of dollars in defence spending and to the south of us the most heavily armed population of conservative patriots on the planet? And don't forget we're talking about a people with a belief that the 2nd Amendment right is practically a responsibility to retake their government from the hands of the enemy, foreign or domestic. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
cougar Posted June 7, 2022 Report Posted June 7, 2022 7 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said: 6 million people died of covid. The global deaths thing is a straw man or what ever you call it. It is actually over 6.3 million people died from Covid 19. It has visted the worst catastrophe on the United States in history. That is the important fact. Over one million Americans died from covid. Over one million died because they were obese people in poor health, who have been raised in poverty on junk food. But, hey, quick experts like what we have on this board always know better. It is not a "deadly" virus. Most people survive it no problem. Now that most people have already had it, it is time to get rid of all messed up useless measures we have been taking. Think about it, in 2 years where we followed all kinds of restrictions, the virus managed to get to most of us. What is the fucking point of listening to madmen and continue with the madness. 2 Quote
Nationalist Posted June 7, 2022 Report Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, eyeball said: That what you seem to be saying is that the Rona somehow saved 6 million people from dying of something else. Maybe it had something to do with so many people hiding in their basement - like the old safety meeting joke at work...if nobody moves nobody gets hurt. I'm not sure. But it's obvious that The Rona was not worth shutting down the world for. And note that big box stores remained open and made out like bandits. Edited June 7, 2022 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
ExFlyer Posted June 7, 2022 Report Posted June 7, 2022 6 hours ago, cougar said: Over one million died because they were obese people in poor health, who have been raised in poverty on junk food. But, hey, ....... Are you actually saying only fat, sick, junk food eating poor people died form COVID?? The world over or only the ones form the US? That is about the stupidest thing I have read from anti vaxxers ever! LOL Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Nationalist Posted June 7, 2022 Report Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: Are you actually saying only fat, sick, junk food eating poor people died form COVID?? The world over or only the ones form the US? That is about the stupidest thing I have read from anti vaxxers ever! LOL Actually...your comment is really f'in' stupid. You know that The Rona pushed unhealthy folks over the edge. Yet you post this...garbage. The Rona. The global pandemic...that wasn't. None of the silly measures that were imposed on us, worked. That is, unless by "worked" one means the governments managed to gleep way more power to themselves and shut down society while the large corporations devoured small business. Edited June 7, 2022 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
ExFlyer Posted June 7, 2022 Report Posted June 7, 2022 43 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Actually...your comment is really f'in' stupid. You know that The Rona pushed unhealthy folks over the edge. Yet you post this...garbage. The Rona. The global pandemic...that wasn't. None of the silly measures that were imposed on us, worked. That is, unless by "worked" one means the governments managed to gleep way more power to themselves and shut down society while the large corporations devoured small business. Hey Dude (or dudette), l responded to "Over one million died because they were obese people in poor health, who have been raised in poverty on junk food." by cougar. You want to call someone "really f'in' stupid.", and "garbage" call your buddy cougar who made the f'in stupid statement. But you won't because all stupids stick together LOL So, it is actually your response that is f'in stupid because the statement is by your buddy, not me. Gotta keep your name calling to the right folks Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
myata Posted June 7, 2022 Report Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) Canada is like a grandpa of the democratic modern world, for whatever it's worth. Half blind and deaf, repeating dusty many decades or centuries old stories, with clear sings of onsetting dementia everyone listens for 5 min out of politeness then has to run sorry. Nothing to worry, it didn't even notice, began all over again. The mirror is old and dusty too rarely if ever used. Why bother? Edited June 7, 2022 by myata Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
ExFlyer Posted June 7, 2022 Report Posted June 7, 2022 33 minutes ago, myata said: Canada is like a grandpa of the democratic modern world, for whatever it's worth. Half blind and deaf, repeating dusty many decades or centuries old stories, with clear sings of onsetting dementia everyone listens for 5 min out of politeness then has to run sorry. Nothing to worry, it didn't even notice, begin all over again. The mirror is old and dusty too rarely if ever used. And you all miss Grandpa when he is gone. Wishing he was still with you. What is "old and dusty" is your constant whining about the same old thing. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Queenmandy85 Posted June 7, 2022 Report Posted June 7, 2022 Let's take a step back. It is clear all of our positions are firmly entrenched and nobody is going to change their mind. The most important thing is, regardless of opposing views, we owe it to each other to respect other opinions. For me, further comment on this topic would be redundant. However, I am not beyond redundancy. 1 1 Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
myata Posted June 7, 2022 Report Posted June 7, 2022 35 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: And you all miss Grandpa when he is gone. Yeah like he was so cute and fuzzy. Too bad. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
Nationalist Posted June 7, 2022 Report Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: Hey Dude (or dudette), l responded to "Over one million died because they were obese people in poor health, who have been raised in poverty on junk food." by cougar. You want to call someone "really f'in' stupid.", and "garbage" call your buddy cougar who made the f'in stupid statement. But you won't because all stupids stick together LOL So, it is actually your response that is f'in stupid because the statement is by your buddy, not me. Gotta keep your name calling to the right folks Not really this time. Quote Of the 73 million children in the U.S., fewer than 700 have died of COVID-19 during the course of the pandemic, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Rauch puts the figure into context using the number of people who can typically fit into a sports venue. "Think about it in terms of football stadiums," Rauch said. "In 100,000 kids, one of them is not going to make it with COVID. Everyone else who walked in is going to walk out." https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/graphics/2021/10/08/covid-19-kids-cases-hospitalizations-deaths/8361479002/ In the following link you'll find a breakdown of the death by Rona. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm Interesting that, a very wide array of conditions are listed, yet The Rona is listed on the death certificate. Hmmm...Looks like someone's been fucking with the stats. The dry fact is, a very small percentage of healthy folks, young and old, who contracted The Rona, died. A VERY small percentage. Edited June 7, 2022 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Queenmandy85 Posted June 7, 2022 Report Posted June 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Nationalist said: Not really this time. In the following link you'll find a breakdown of the death by Rona. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm Interesting that, a very wide array of conditions are listed, yet The Rona is listed ion the death certificate. Hmmm...Looks like someone's been fucking with the stats. The dry fact is, a very small percentage of healthy folks, young and old, who contracted The Rona, died. A VERY small percentage. So, people who are not healthy don't matter? Carlos Marin 53, John Davis 66, Olympic gold medalist Arnie Robinson 72, Bruce Williamson 49, Herman Cain 74, Canadian actor Nick Cordero 41. ..and thousands more. Sorry, I couldn't let that go. 2 Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
ExFlyer Posted June 7, 2022 Report Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) 31 minutes ago, myata said: Yeah like he was so cute and fuzzy. Too bad. You are one sick person, making fun of your dead Grandfather and using him to make a idiotic point. ? Edited June 7, 2022 by ExFlyer 2 1 Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
ExFlyer Posted June 7, 2022 Report Posted June 7, 2022 25 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Not really this time. In the following link you'll find a breakdown of the death by Rona. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm Interesting that, a very wide array of conditions are listed, yet The Rona is listed on the death certificate. Hmmm...Looks like someone's been fucking with the stats. The dry fact is, a very small percentage of healthy folks, young and old, who contracted The Rona, died. A VERY small percentage. Nice try at deflection. It was your buddy that made the idiotic statement that ""Over one million died because they were obese people in poor health, who have been raised in poverty on junk food." One million people in the US died of COVID and he claims they were all poor, fat, sick junk food eating people. Really, you support that?? 2 Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Michael Hardner Posted June 7, 2022 Report Posted June 7, 2022 11 hours ago, eyeball said: You mean like putting the fear of Marxists and dictators taking over the world despite democracy, trillions of dollars in defence spending and to the south of us the most heavily armed population of conservative patriots on the planet? And don't forget we're talking about a people with a belief that the 2nd Amendment right is practically a responsibility to retake their government from the hands of the enemy, foreign or domestic. Oh this is pure gold. I find that the chucklef*cks project, psychologically, to the degree that I feel I understand what makes them tick: 1) Money motivation. Everybody is after money... doesn't matter how rich they are, they are all scrounging for money. Of course, some are - especially corporations and wealthy individuals - but not every Liberal bureaucrat makes money from every Liberal statement or legislation. The problem is a little more provable in the US where $ donations make the system go. 2) Fear. Those of us who wear a facemask are driven by "fear" but the pedophile conspiracies, Marxist conspiracies, pharmaceutical conspiracies (which is a new one since 2020 btw) and the MASSIVE censorship and cover up drives them to stockpile guns and dumb ideas... which is fear based... Let's just live our lives and only acknowledge the chucklef*cks when we are bored and need to ridicule something. 1 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Charles Anthony Posted June 7, 2022 Report Posted June 7, 2022 Folks, Stay on topic. Avoid derailment. Quote We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >>
Zeitgeist Posted June 7, 2022 Report Posted June 7, 2022 34 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said: So, people who are not healthy don't matter? Carlos Marin 53, John Davis 66, Olympic gold medalist Arnie Robinson 72, Bruce Williamson 49, Herman Cain 74, Canadian actor Nick Cordero 41. ..and thousands more. Sorry, I couldn't let that go. Pre-Omicron deaths? Pre-vax? Please always qualify such references with time frame, vax status, etc. Quote
cougar Posted June 7, 2022 Report Posted June 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Queenmandy85 said: So, people who are not healthy don't matter? I have to respectfully tell you, you are expressing another redundant opinion. We cannot shut our society down and continue to discriminate against healthy unvaccinated people for the sake of "protecting the protectors and the sick individuals" which by the way DID NOT WORK ! If in 2 years most of the population got the virus, this is more than enough evidence all masks, distancing, travel restriction and whatever measures DID NOT WORK. The virus continued to spread. I actually do not know a person around me who has not had COVID already and believe it or not I do not know a single person who died of it. But hey, let's continue this madness, so my son cannot take a flight to university or I cannot go visit my parents. 1 Quote
myata Posted June 7, 2022 Report Posted June 7, 2022 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: You are one sick person, making fun of your dead Grandfather ... Was it an attempt at irony or another proudly conquered height of obtusion? I'm lost, sorry. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
Nationalist Posted June 7, 2022 Report Posted June 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Queenmandy85 said: So, people who are not healthy don't matter? Carlos Marin 53, John Davis 66, Olympic gold medalist Arnie Robinson 72, Bruce Williamson 49, Herman Cain 74, Canadian actor Nick Cordero 41. ..and thousands more. Sorry, I couldn't let that go. I didn't say that. I said people die. They died last week...they died yesterday...and today some have already died. Neither of us can stop that trend. And none of this shows the need for shutdowns, masks and vax mandates. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted June 7, 2022 Report Posted June 7, 2022 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: Nice try at deflection. It was your buddy that made the idiotic statement that ""Over one million died because they were obese people in poor health, who have been raised in poverty on junk food." One million people in the US died of COVID and he claims they were all poor, fat, sick junk food eating people. Really, you support that?? Its not really a deflection. Look at the charts. The number of healthy folks who succumbed to The Rona is...really small. This China Virus was dangerous to only the very old, and/or the already unhealthy. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
WestCanMan Posted June 7, 2022 Report Posted June 7, 2022 13 hours ago, eyeball said: You mean like putting the fear of Marxists and dictators taking over the world despite democracy, Our democracy was already trampled. We have the gesundheitspass, the government controls the MSM and social media, people can't protest against the government without having their bank accounts frozen, peaceful protesters get trampled by horses or beaten like dogs, and our MSM OKs it all, so our peons accept it. Quote trillions of dollars in defence spending and to the south of us the most heavily armed population of conservative patriots on the planet? The US gov't and their MSM is heavily invested in disarming patriots and demonizing them. Quote And don't forget we're talking about a people with a belief that the 2nd Amendment right is practically a responsibility to retake their government from the hands of the enemy, foreign or domestic. America is divided. They can't even agree on whether or not arming the Taliban was bad, whether or not violent criminals should be in jail, whether or not the police are beneficial, whether or not illegal immigration should be allowed, etc. Divided is weak. America is on the path to becoming a failed state. Not irredeemably so, but solidly on course. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
WestCanMan Posted June 7, 2022 Report Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Are you actually saying only fat, sick, junk food eating poor people died form COVID?? People who are extremely elderly with extremely serious health conditions also die from covid, so you get half-marks. Quote That is about the stupidest thing I have read from anti vaxxers ever! LOL There are no "anti-vaxers" in this argument. The term anti-vaxer is already in use for people who refuse to get their children vaccinated for diseases which are still around and which could be fatal to them. And when I say "vaccinated, I mean the actual definition of the word "vaccinated", they get vaccinated which makes them immune to the diseases in question. There is no covid vaccine. To believe that there is a covid vaccine is to lie to yourself. We have a covid Pflacebo. Read and understand: the people who take the Pflacebo still get extremely sick. True. The people who take the Pflacebo still pass covid around like a joint by a campfire. True. The people who take the Pflacebo still die in large numbers. True. In fact, over 1,000 triple-Pflaceboed people died of covid between March 10th and April 10th in Canada alone. Did 1,000 people who were vaccinated against every other disease known to man die of those diseases in the last 10 years? Keeping score Pflacebo vs actual Vaccines: Covid "vaccine": 1,000 "triple-vaccinated" people DIE of covid PER MONTH in Canada. Smallpox and Polio vaccines: Zero people who are vaccinated against polio and smallpox people die eac month. Less than 10 people who were vaccinated against smallpox and polio died in Canada in the last 360 months. Hmmmmm, 1,000 each month vs <10 in 360 months. Is there a difference?????? In summary: Smallpox and Polio have vaccines. People who refuse to use them or give them to their kids are called anti-vaxxers. Covid has a Pflacebo. People who don't take placebos are not called anti-vaxers. Therefor, you're using the word incorrectly. Now you know. Edited June 7, 2022 by WestCanMan 4 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
myata Posted June 7, 2022 Report Posted June 7, 2022 Oops I did it again. I went out and just checked the reality. Yes you can too, just try: Sweden: 5 Covid deaths daily, average. Ontario: 11. But Ontario's population is not double of Sweden's - only 40% larger. Most recent peak, Ontario's number 82, Sweden: 50. Proportionally, 73: still lower. Sweden did not have a new high since January 2021, and even then not by much: 127 vs. 107. Ontario, your guess. See what you can have: A bunch of lockdowns; all kind of arbitrary some possibly and likely useless mandates managed by wise bureaucratic hand; scare out of your last wits daily doomsday propaganda; and still beat a good quality functional health system + honest, objective information that citizens can trust. And not by a small amount. The numbers speak for themselves what can be added? Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
ExFlyer Posted June 8, 2022 Report Posted June 8, 2022 19 hours ago, myata said: Was it an attempt at irony or another proudly conquered height of obtusion? I'm lost, sorry. It was declaring you as a sad person for invoking your dead grandfather to make a useless point. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
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